Willem Dafoe's gun in 'Clear and Present Danger'

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Posted: 5/28/2017 9:38:26 AM EDT

I used to think that was a pretty cool movie way back when, but it was recently on TV so I sat and watched it. I could not believe how poorly written it was with regard to our special forces unit allowing itself to navigate into a box canyon with no exit, and being subsequently slaughtered by the cartel forces. It just pissed me off.

Then during the rescue mission I noticed Willem Dafoe's character's gun. WTF is that thing? No stock and no sights? Giant riser, with what..Is that a gas piston? No Buffer tube? He was doing some longer range aimed fire with it as well. Is that what a real operational operator would choose for such a mission?

I found it IMFDB- But I still hate it.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:39:38 AM EDT

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OA-93, isn't it?

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:41:51 AM EDT

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Sometimes you just need a little subgun sized package but you recognize the shortcomings of pistol caliber carbines, and you don't want to deal with the NFA, and the pistol brace hasn't been invented yet.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:42:11 AM EDT

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Oh wait. Nevermind.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:42:16 AM EDT

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Yep.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:49:49 AM EDT

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No US special forces would ever find themselves in a canyon,defeated by a lesser rabble huh?

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:54:01 AM EDT

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lol

no shit...

I was thinking the same thing...

OP, they knew where they were, how many, etc. When they give them no other option, where else are they going to go? Not to mention it was Supr Squirrel Secret so it would have been hard to call in for support etc.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:57:06 AM EDT

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It was 1994, after all.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:01:19 AM EDT

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I've been trying to find the binoculars he used in the laser marking scene.

Anyone know what those are?

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:03:24 AM EDT

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It just needs a SBM4 brace

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:06:36 AM EDT

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I used to think that was a pretty cool movie way back when, but it was recently on TV so I sat and watched it. I could not believe how poorly written it was with regard to our special forces unit allowing itself to navigate into a box canyon with no exit, and being subsequently slaughtered by the cartel forces. It just pissed me off.

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Yeah, they did that in a another movie just a few years ago, too. Totally unrealistic.

I think Marky Mark was in it.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:06:51 AM EDT

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OP fail. They got boxed in because they got sold out. The cartel cornered them. Im surprised you didnt catch that from the movie.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:17:27 AM EDT

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Was there a reason why a gas system like that didn't become more popular?

It seems like it would allow for a very compact PDW.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:17:37 AM EDT

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Posted: 5/28/2017 10:32:17 AM EDT

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lol

no shit...

I was thinking the same thing...

OP, they knew where they were, how many, etc. When they give them no other option, where else are they going to go? Not to mention it was Supr Squirrel Secret so it would have been hard to call in for support etc.

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No US special forces would ever find themselves in a canyon,defeated by a lesser rabble huh?

lol

no shit...

I was thinking the same thing...

OP, they knew where they were, how many, etc. When they give them no other option, where else are they going to go? Not to mention it was Supr Squirrel Secret so it would have been hard to call in for support etc.

Yeah well I guess I know it could and has happened, it still pissed me off.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:36:17 AM EDT

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Tactical opera glasses.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:36:26 AM EDT

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I've been trying to find the binoculars he used in the laser marking scene.

Anyone know what those are?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Fx2S6INXgls/VN8DuO3Mx2I/AAAAAAAWqVw/ktckKze7cEo/s1600/Clear_and_Present_Danger-47.jpg

They look like a version of Barska 10x20 Blueline binoculars.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:39:40 AM EDT

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Steiner makes a monocular very similiar to that.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:41:39 AM EDT

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I've met Willem. He's a standup guy.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:44:35 AM EDT

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I remember watching that film and scratching my head over that rifle as well. Odd one.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:45:49 AM EDT

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There Was a Firefight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcKTbFbwrxE

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:49:14 AM EDT

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Posted: 5/28/2017 10:54:35 AM EDT

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Read the book.

Then you will really know how bad the movie is.

And this applies to all the movies based on Tom Clancy's books.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:55:06 AM EDT

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I always thought of getting one, but I despise Oly Arms more.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:58:21 AM EDT

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Well, they're kind of like Bruce Lee.

Virtually invincible.

Posted: 5/28/2017 10:58:36 AM EDT

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maybe someone can find the binos on here:
http://www.miniaturebinoculars.com/

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:01:03 AM EDT

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That weapon ( and Oly ignoring warnings ) is also the reason for the steel core ban
nevermind that oly only made like 4 in 7.62

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:02:24 AM EDT

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Looks like an "Easy Rino" conversion

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:07:45 AM EDT

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Stupid gun for sure but I've wanted one ever since I saw the movie when it came out. I echo the sentiment of Hollywood fucking over every Clancy book. Some of his books could have been amazing movies if not for Hollywood faggotry.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:08:50 AM EDT

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That weapon ( and Oly ignoring warnings ) is also the reason for the steel core ban
nevermind that oly only made like 4 in 7.62

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I always thought of getting one, but I despise Oly Arms more.

That weapon ( and Oly ignoring warnings ) is also the reason for the steel core ban
nevermind that oly only made like 4 in 7.62

That's why I despise Oly Arms. They build shitty products, and could give two shits about the people who buy their products.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:13:25 AM EDT

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Well, they're kind of like Bruce Lee.

Virtually invincible.

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No US special forces would ever find themselves in a canyon,defeated by a lesser rabble huh?

Well, they're kind of like Bruce Lee.

Virtually invincible.

Oh I see what you did there. Low blow sir!

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:26:40 AM EDT

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That's why I despise Oly Arms. They build shitty products, and could give two shits about the people who buy their products.

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I always thought of getting one, but I despise Oly Arms more.

That weapon ( and Oly ignoring warnings ) is also the reason for the steel core ban
nevermind that oly only made like 4 in 7.62

That's why I despise Oly Arms. They build shitty products, and could give two shits about the people who buy their products.

They turned out a lot of garbage and fucked a lot of customers for sure but my preban Oly ran like a sewing machine and got me through the dark ban days when I was in college and couldn't afford a Colt. I wore out a barrel on that gun.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:27:45 AM EDT

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One thing I really have a hard time accepting is, a run of the mill everyday U.S. Navy FA-18 cruising at 25,000 ft over Colombia casually drops a a 500lb laser guided bomb on a house.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:28:10 AM EDT

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I always wondered why it didn't have sights. But I wonder even more why Ryan didn't bring a gun. In the book he was a door gunner.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:30:07 AM EDT

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Ouch.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:31:31 AM EDT

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Was there a reason why a gas system like that didn't become more popular?

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Because it is failure prone . I have a friend with one of those pistols . Last time I saw him Olympic had replaced the upper 3 times under warranty due to assorted parts failures . And it broke again the day we shot it .

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:36:38 AM EDT

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That movie is a shitfest.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:39:34 AM EDT

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Best scene in the movie is Harrison Ford trying to rent the Huey.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:42:08 AM EDT

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Odd, my co-worker brought up this movie just the other day mentioning how she liked his car he drove and kind of wanted one. Then she found out it was a Ferrari...

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:46:46 AM EDT

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The book provides much more context on this.

It's worth the read.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:50:28 AM EDT

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Clear and Present Danger (8/9) Movie CLIP - Two Million Dollar Helicopter (1994) HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqtjbWJPIgQ

"Do you have any time in this type?"

"9 o'clock."

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:54:20 AM EDT

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One thing I really have a hard time accepting is, a run of the mill everyday U.S. Navy FA-18 cruising at 25,000 ft over Colombia casually drops a a 500lb laser guided bomb on a house.

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That wasn't CGI and wasn't a model they blew up either, it was full scale. They bought a mansion and filled it with explosives

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:55:30 AM EDT

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Willem Dafoe is a great actor but he was completely wrong as Clark.

Posted: 5/28/2017 11:56:31 AM EDT

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Read the book.

Then you will really know how bad the movie is.

And this applies to all the movies based on Tom Clancy's books.

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+1

Posted: 5/28/2017 12:02:07 PM EDT

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Read the book.

Then you will really know how bad the movie is.

And this applies to all the movies based on Tom Clancy's books.

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To be fair, if they were going to be faithful to the books, the movies would have to be at least 8hrs long.

Posted: 5/28/2017 12:46:25 PM EDT

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Oh I see what you did there. Low blow sir!

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No US special forces would ever find themselves in a canyon,defeated by a lesser rabble huh?

Well, they're kind of like Bruce Lee.

Virtually invincible.

Oh I see what you did there. Low blow sir!

Posted: 5/28/2017 12:56:42 PM EDT

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YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

MORE ARFCOM SISKEL and EBERTS.

Tell me about Rambo.

Posted: 5/28/2017 1:07:04 PM EDT

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They turned out a lot of garbage and fucked a lot of customers for sure but my preban Oly ran like a sewing machine and got me through the dark ban days when I was in college and couldn't afford a Colt. I wore out a barrel on that gun.

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Same here, my first AR was an Oly MFR with the fake moderator P/W.

It was what I could afford and find when the ban was at our door. And frankly, oly was loved and respected at that point lol.

Made it my first SBR, chopped off the moderator and replaced some other stuff over the years but never because a part broke.

I'm not saying oly didn't screw up I just never experienced any of it with my one oly so no pile on hate from me.

Posted: 5/28/2017 1:13:55 PM EDT

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YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

MORE ARFCOM SISKEL and EBERTS.

Tell me about Rambo.

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Yeah welcome to the show on ARFcom SON, we got 99 problems but reviewing movies ain't ONE!

- Clint

Posted: 5/28/2017 1:21:02 PM EDT

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MORE ARFCOM SISKEL and EBERTS.

Tell me about Rambo.

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Lighten up Francis. Here is an idea- Don't likey? No clickey.

Posted: 5/28/2017 1:23:39 PM EDT

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Would make a cool SBR but gay as fuck as a pistol.

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I bet now that oly is defunct, someone could pick up the patent on the cheap and. Hold a better version.

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