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Posted: 5/27/2017 1:45:32 PM EDT

Went out to my range this morning. Took a Garand, K98, K31, M44, Arisaka Type 2, and a SMLE.

This was the first trip out with SMLE and the M44, I have other Mosins but this one is new to me.

I am amazed at how accurate the SMLE is, I got a really good deal on it but it's in pretty rough shape.
I am dissapointed in the M44. It shoots way left even after adjusting the from site as far as I could, my other Mosins are relatively accurate.
The Arisaka shoots great.
I have a few Garands, the one I had today doesn't group very well IMHO.
The K31 had become one of my favorites.
The K98 is Greg rifle but it has more recoil than the others.

Any way here are some pictures.

Targets at 50 yards.

First round with M44

2nd round with M44 after moving the front sight

SMLE

K98

It was a great morning.

Posted: 5/27/2017 1:57:23 PM EDT

[#1]

good thing WWII didn't break out again..

nice pics, good shooting..thanks for sharing

Posted: 5/27/2017 1:59:16 PM EDT

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Very nice. Was hoping to see pics of your completed mobile shooting bench though.

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:01:23 PM EDT

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Indeed, it looks like it was a great morning

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:02:00 PM EDT

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Try shooting the 44 with bayo extended.

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:02:09 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/27/2017 2:02:37 PM EDT

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This is AR-15.com.

What's with the wood shit?

Kidding,looks fun.

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:05:24 PM EDT

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What is up on the cover, on a bipod?

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:08:55 PM EDT

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nothing better than mounting the rifle in a front and rear mount on a bench and doing nothing but squeezing the trigger

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:11:49 PM EDT

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I know right. When testing handloads for accuracy it would be stupid not to remove the part that can move.

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:12:49 PM EDT

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AR10T

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:14:10 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/27/2017 2:19:16 PM EDT

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This is AR-15.com.

What's with the wood shit?

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The only rifles I own that aren't wood, are ARs.

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:23:43 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/27/2017 2:23:59 PM EDT

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Looks like a fun time; nice collection of mil-surps.

On a totally unrelated note, I've seen your postings over the years and know you're into higher end gear than most. I know it's an odd observation, but you may want to look into upgrading your brass catcher on that AR10. Those caldwell ones suck in my experience (occasionally caused jams, resulting in damaged brass etc.)

Might want to look at something from these guys http://www.tacticalbrassrecovery.com/

and no, I'm not affiliated with them; they just work well, but are expensive.

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:26:16 PM EDT

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I'll let you borrow a smoothbore handgonne and some slowmatch if you want to make aiming as difficult as possible.

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:32:30 PM EDT

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Looks like a fun time; nice collection of mil-surps.

On a totally unrelated note, I've seen your postings over the years and know you're into higher end gear than most. I know it's an odd observation, but you may want to look into upgrading your brass catcher on that AR10. Those caldwell ones suck in my experience (occasionally caused jams, resulting in damaged brass etc.)

Might want to look at something from these guys http://www.tacticalbrassrecovery.com/

and no, I'm not affiliated with them; they just work well, but are expensive.

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I'll check it out, thanks for the link.

I generally I lay a very large painters cloth on the ground next to my bench to catch all the brass and then roll the cloth up after I'm done. I forgot it it at home this morning.

Posted: 5/27/2017 2:46:06 PM EDT

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I can attest to the fact that the velcro-attached Caldwell brass catchers suck and cause malfunctions. The Caldwell catchers that attach via a picatinny rail rock, however.

FWIW, my son this afternoon. Not bad, considering it was a cheapo Wal-Mart special-

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Posted: 5/27/2017 2:49:45 PM EDT

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Looks like a great day. Really nice grouping from the Enfield.

Posted: 5/27/2017 5:35:14 PM EDT

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very nnice

Posted: 5/27/2017 6:14:00 PM EDT

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I can attest to the fact that the velcro-attached Caldwell brass catchers suck and cause malfunctions. The Caldwell catchers that attach via a picatinny rail rock, however.

FWIW, my son this afternoon. Not bad, considering it was a cheapo Wal-Mart special-

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That's awesome. My daughter will go with me every once in awhile.

Posted: 5/27/2017 6:41:45 PM EDT

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I really liked the SMLE's that I owned. Sold and traded them as I was really in to Garand's. What ammo were you shooting through it? I found 180gr .311" bullets shot great in my reloads, but I had a hard time with some hang fires using some of the old surplus ammo out there.

Posted: 5/27/2017 6:50:53 PM EDT

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Don't all Mosin's shoot left...?

eta....j/k....

Posted: 5/27/2017 7:25:18 PM EDT

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Take the M44 out again and try it with the bayo extended. I believe that's how they were sighted in

Posted: 5/27/2017 8:20:10 PM EDT

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I really liked the SMLE's that I owned. Sold and traded them as I was really in to Garand's. What ammo were you shooting through it? I found 180gr .311" bullets shot great in my reloads, but I had a hard time with some hang fires using some of the old surplus ammo out there.

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I was using handloads with 174gr SMK's with IMR 4350.

Posted: 5/27/2017 8:25:07 PM EDT

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I will try that. My other M44 shoots slightly left but nowhere near as bad as this one, the sights on my other rifle are centered at it shoots 1" to the left.

The one I was shooting today is a few inches left and I've adjusted the sight over this far-

Posted: 5/27/2017 8:28:13 PM EDT

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I find the K31 emits class and elegance, even compared to other wood and steel bolt rifles.

And with your mechanical fascination I bet you just love how that bolt works.

Posted: 5/27/2017 8:32:39 PM EDT

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The K31 is a work of art in my book.

I want to buy another one and install a scope on it to see what the round is really capable of.

Posted: 5/27/2017 8:34:27 PM EDT

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Ayup. Changes POI and I believe they were originally sighted in with bayo extended.

Posted: 5/27/2017 11:18:57 PM EDT

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I'm not disagreeing but it seems really odd that a rifles accuracy depends on the bayonet.

I never knew this about these rifles so I am looking forward to testing it.

Posted: 5/27/2017 11:35:30 PM EDT

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I'm not disagreeing but it seems really odd that a rifles accuracy depends on the bayonet.

I never knew this about these rifles so I am looking forward to testing it.

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Believe it or not it CAN make a difference. How much is TBD.
Years ago I was into the Mosin Nagants and I learned how the bayonet can actually affect how it shoots.

You have a nice collection there, BTW. I had a K31 and never shot the thing. The stock looked like it was a dog's chew toy, but that trigger...fantastic.
It's shame the surplus rifle market seems to be drying up finally. One can relive history a bit by owning one of those rifles.
And that AR10 is actually sexy. I feel dirty for even typing that.

Posted: 5/28/2017 8:04:58 AM EDT

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Believe it or not it CAN make a difference. How much is TBD.
Years ago I was into the Mosin Nagants and I learned how the bayonet can actually affect how it shoots.

You have a nice collection there, BTW. I had a K31 and never shot the thing. The stock looked like it was a dog's chew toy, but that trigger...fantastic.
It's shame the surplus rifle market seems to be drying up finally. One can relive history a bit by owning one of those rifles.
And that AR10 is actually sexy. I feel dirty for even typing that.

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I'm not disagreeing but it seems really odd that a rifles accuracy depends on the bayonet.

I never knew this about these rifles so I am looking forward to testing it.

Believe it or not it CAN make a difference. How much is TBD.
Years ago I was into the Mosin Nagants and I learned how the bayonet can actually affect how it shoots.

You have a nice collection there, BTW. I had a K31 and never shot the thing. The stock looked like it was a dog's chew toy, but that trigger...fantastic.
It's shame the surplus rifle market seems to be drying up finally. One can relive history a bit by owning one of those rifles.
And that AR10 is actually sexy. I feel dirty for even typing that.

I have a few more still to add but I am happy to be able to own and shoot a part of history.

Posted: 5/28/2017 8:21:10 AM EDT

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Very nice OP

Posted: 5/28/2017 8:46:07 AM EDT

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Great thread!

I am happy to see the accuracy of your Arisaka. Years ago I tested my Type 38 at a hundred yards and was disappointed to see a virtual shotgun pattern. The rifling looks okay, but the bore clearly has worn out some.

I have a Type 99, too, but have only had the opportunity to do some offhand plinking with it. Eventually I'll test out its accuracy.

Posted: 5/28/2017 8:52:05 AM EDT

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Great thread!

I am happy to see the accuracy of your Arisaka. Years ago I tested my Type 38 at a hundred yards and was disappointed to see a virtual shotgun pattern. The rifling looks okay, but the bore clearly has worn out some.

I have a Type 99, too, but have only had the opportunity to do some offhand plinking with it. Eventually I'll test out its accuracy.

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I am shooting handloads out of mine using the same 174gr SMK that I use in my 7.62x54R and .303.

The rifle shoots great in my opinion, I think I could probably tighten the groups if the trigger was better.

Posted: 5/28/2017 8:56:59 AM EDT

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I'm just here for the pics, so do you have any of your range?

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:03:08 AM EDT

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That a paratrooper Ariska?

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:04:36 AM EDT

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Yes it is.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:11:07 AM EDT

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It's not a great picture but here is a picture I took from the 50 yard targets yesterday(I took it so I could look at my phone and see what rifle to use on what target).

You can see the 100 yard target and look closely up the hill and you will see the 500 yard targets.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:13:51 AM EDT

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Wow, Im so jealous.

I have wanted to do exactly what you've done in buying WWII rifles. Unfortunately, grad school put a hold on that. I reload so the odd calibers won't stop me from shooting as well.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:34:59 AM EDT

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Sure looks like one.

Posted: 5/28/2017 9:35:56 AM EDT

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Your Saturday was way more fun than mine was.

Posted: 5/28/2017 12:19:57 PM EDT

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Wow, Im so jealous.

I have wanted to do exactly what you've done in buying WWII rifles. Unfortunately, grad school put a hold on that. I reload so the odd calibers won't stop me from shooting as well.

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I know a lot of surplus exists for the old surplus rifles and I have a lot of it but find myself enjoying reloading and shooting my own loads thru them.

Posted: 5/28/2017 12:34:07 PM EDT

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Great Shooting OP!

I have a $99 Pawn Shop " Bubba'd" 1916 BSA SMLE that I hope to find wood for one day ( That I can Actually afford!

) and restore to it's original glory. The barrel and action are intact.

I can only dream that it will be that accurate. It does have a decent bore, although I haven't shot it yet.]

Nice day at the range!

Posted: 5/28/2017 12:36:57 PM EDT

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Sweet collection of old soldiers.

Posted: 5/28/2017 5:51:56 PM EDT

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Great Shooting OP!

I have a $99 Pawn Shop " Bubba'd" 1916 BSA SMLE that I hope to find wood for one day ( That I can Actually afford!

) and restore to it's original glory. The barrel and action are intact.

I can only dream that it will be that accurate. It does have a decent bore, although I haven't shot it yet.]

Nice day at the range!

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Mine is a Ishapore that has definitely seen better days. I'm shocked at how good it still shoots.

Posted: 5/28/2017 6:05:49 PM EDT

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Yes it is.

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I am jealous of that Arisaka 7.7? Load your own ammo?

Posted: 5/28/2017 6:17:18 PM EDT

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2nd pic, beautiful rifle

Posted: 5/28/2017 8:16:54 PM EDT

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Yessir I handload for every gun that I shoot which includes all the surplus rifles I shot yesterday.

Posted: 5/29/2017 12:50:27 PM EDT

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I will try that. My other M44 shoots slightly left but nowhere near as bad as this one, the sights on my other rifle are centered at it shoots 1" to the left.

The one I was shooting today is a few inches left and I've adjusted the sight over this far-

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This made mine much more fun to shoot--