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Posted: 5/25/2017 4:59:19 AM EDT
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By this thread, it looks like the retard never trumpers are coordinating.
They throw up a liberal article, then make sure they get as many page one posts as possible. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 5:13:00 AM EDT
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That's not what the statement intimates, nowhere does it say every commits the same crime everyday. "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime", who knows what you've done until some motivated investigator goes digging looking for an excuse to fuck you. Even worse is that they can take even the cleanest most innocent person and ruin them just by running them through the system and making them defend themselves against the limitless resources of the state. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:44:54 AM EDT
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Good luck with that. The avg American commits 3 felonies a day without even realizing it |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:50:15 AM EDT
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I'm interested as well, I've seen that posted here constantly since that book came out but no one can ever name them. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:56:27 AM EDT
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I stopped at "Washington Post".
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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:56:41 AM EDT
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By this thread, it looks like the retard never trumpers are coordinating. They throw up a liberal article, then make sure they get as many page one posts as possible. 
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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:58:04 AM EDT
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Needed some ideas for your daily to do list? You already bored by retirement that much? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm interested as well, I've seen that posted here constantly since that book came out but no one can ever name them. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:01:17 AM EDT
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I know I commit 1 or 2 felonies a day but not 3. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:25:09 AM EDT
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Have I read the bill? No. Do I think it's hilarious that OP is triggered and now linking The WaPodesta? Absolutely.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:26:37 AM EDT
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Working up to your full potential. I'm sure that GD will offer you guidance on how to excel Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know I commit 1 or 2 felonies a day but not 3. Or is he picking on you!!?? 
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:32:09 AM EDT
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Even I'm
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:35:45 AM EDT
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Our nation will not expire with a great roar it will die with a whimper.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:40:12 AM EDT
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if we just give up a little more freedom, we can keep this winning going
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:46:03 AM EDT
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Make America Great Again!!! From OP's article: Because nearly all police agencies receive some sort of federal funding, including most local sheriff’s departments and town police, the bill basically makes it a federal crime to kill, attempt to kill or conspire to kill any police officer (as well as any judge or first responder). The bill would also allow for the federal death penalty in such cases From June 2016: Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump on Thursday vowed to issue an executive order to mandate the death penalty for anyone who kills a police officer. “One of the first things I’d do in terms of executive order, if I win, will be to sign a strong, strong statement that would go out to the country, out to the world, anybody killing a police man, a police woman, a police officer, anybody killing a police officer, the death penalty is going to happen,” he said. Anyone who kills police officers deserves the death penalty in my opinion! Because after the first one, the rest are free. Criminals know this. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:50:56 AM EDT
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I read through the text and I did not find anything related to the OP's thread title. If I missed something please point it out. If not this is a BS thread and BS wapo article. Text of the bill |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 8:38:12 AM EDT
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The department can't separate themselves from the officer unless there was an obvious violation of policy or deviation from training. Often, the department is on the hook for failure to train. If people could only sue the officer, there would be a whole lot less law suits. They want the deep pockets and cops don't make that kind of cash. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 8:45:41 AM EDT
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This feels like tort reform, but for police.
I'll allow it. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:04:17 AM EDT
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I'll read through the text but so far I'm leaning towards click-bait thread title and BS article. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:04:55 AM EDT
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I'm interested as well, I've seen that posted here constantly since that book came out but no one can ever name them. 
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:10:37 AM EDT
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Ole_slabside holding back from posting HuffPo articles, nice.
Fuck trolls. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:11:49 AM EDT
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Name one of those felonies that we're all constantly committing everyday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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good luck with that. the avg American commits 3 felonies a day without even realizing it |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:11:52 AM EDT
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Dismembering the Constitution, piece by piece.... no surprises at this attempt |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:12:15 AM EDT
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#olederpsidenews
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:14:43 AM EDT
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Link to the actual bill
Reading it now, appears to be quite different from OP's summary. Will edit with opinion once I'm done. Edit: i am not a lawyer so my reading of this might be inaccurate but... Don't see any language giving the federal government authority over state/local police. I see language allowing the feds to prosecute for attacks against any form of law enforcement officer. The added liability protection appears to be limited to only cases where a felony or violent crime is being committed. (If you are committing a serious offense, the officers can be more forceful in stopping you without fear of getting sued) |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:17:19 AM EDT
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Funny how you are in this thread. Trump is your president, FYI. Enjoy your ownage you fussy boy. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:18:43 AM EDT
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Make America Great Again!!! From OP's article: Because nearly all police agencies receive some sort of federal funding, including most local sheriff’s departments and town police, the bill basically makes it a federal crime to kill, attempt to kill or conspire to kill any police officer (as well as any judge or first responder). The bill would also allow for the federal death penalty in such cases From June 2016: Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump on Thursday vowed to issue an executive order to mandate the death penalty for anyone who kills a police officer. “One of the first things I’d do in terms of executive order, if I win, will be to sign a strong, strong statement that would go out to the country, out to the world, anybody killing a police man, a police woman, a police officer, anybody killing a police officer, the death penalty is going to happen,” he said. Anyone who kills police officers deserves the death penalty in my opinion! |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:19:31 AM EDT
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By this thread, it looks like the retard never trumpers are coordinating. They throw up a liberal article, then make sure they get as many page one posts as possible.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:19:51 AM EDT
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It's identical to this bill? https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/5809?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22back+the+blue%22%5D%7D&r=5 Summary: This bill amends the federal criminal code by establishing mandatory minimum sentences of 10 years in prison for offenders who kill, or attempt or conspire to kill, current or former U.S. judges and federal law enforcement officers. Offenders are subject to 30 years in prison or the death penalty if death results. Additionally, the bill makes it illegal to kill, or attempt or conspire to kill, current or former public safety officers or judicial officers who work for state or local governments that are federally funded if the officers were engaged in official duties or targeted on account of their duties. The penalties for crimes against federal officials are also applied for crimes against federally funded public safety officers. The bill: (1) makes it a crime to assault an individual involved in crime and juvenile delinquency control or reduction, or enforcement of the laws of states; and (2) increases penalties based on the degree of bodily injury caused by the assault and the type of weapon used. A new federal crime is established for fleeing authorities to avoid prosecution, custody, or confinement after conviction for a killing, attempting to kill, or conspiring to kill, a federal judge or law enforcement officer, or a federally funded public safety officer. The bill expands the authority of federal law enforcement officers to carry firearms in federal facilities. The Department of Justice must award grants to state, local, or tribal enforcement agencies for improving their relationships with the communities they serve. Thanks unions. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:20:33 AM EDT
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Name one of those felonies that we're all constantly committing everyday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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good luck with that. the avg American commits 3 felonies a day without even realizing it |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:21:14 AM EDT
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Were any of those people committing felonies? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes. Don't commit felonies and it won't effect you. This article is basically whining that lawyers aren't going to be able to cash out at the expense of the taxpayer as often anymore. Boo hoo. What about that non english speaking old man visiting his kids house that got a cop beat down for nothing more then not understanding english? What about that upper class white couple that found a cop in the back yard and got shot or beat I can't remember exactly for stepping foot out his back door? You need to go to bed, your drunk. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:22:12 AM EDT
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Of course, the bill and the OP's snyopsis have no points in common at all, but GD will GD anyway because checking facts is HARD. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:23:37 AM EDT
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By Radley Balko
Anything he says is automatically a pile of shit. Any unbiased analysis of this proposed law? |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:26:11 AM EDT
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Order out of chaos
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:28:12 AM EDT
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Some animals are more equal than others |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:32:29 AM EDT
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Surely this must be some kind of sick joke right? Please tell me this is trolling or taken out of context. If not, it looks like we're about an inch away from become a total police state. It basically gives the police all but free reign to do whatever they want so long as there is an actual crime being committed. That's my understanding of it at least. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Surely this must be some kind of sick joke right? Please tell me this is trolling or taken out of context. If not, it looks like we're about an inch away from become a total police state. Quoted:
So michael browns family cant sue? How about that guy in cincinnati, his shitbag family cant sue officer Tensing? Very slippery slope honestly, but if you rnot in the commission of a felony etc you dont have much to worry about. This sounds like a protection for the actual good shoots. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:38:11 AM EDT
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Were any of those people committing felonies? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes. Don't commit felonies and it won't effect you. This article is basically whining that lawyers aren't going to be able to cash out at the expense of the taxpayer as often anymore. Boo hoo. What about that non english speaking old man visiting his kids house that got a cop beat down for nothing more then not understanding english? What about that upper class white couple that found a cop in the back yard and got shot or beat I can't remember exactly for stepping foot out his back door? You need to go to bed, your drunk. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:39:05 AM EDT
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I'm interested as well, I've seen that posted here constantly since that book came out but no one can ever name them. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:54:14 AM EDT
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How is limiting the liability of police officers of the several States any of the Federal government's business? Wouldn't this be a question properly left for the individual States?
That would be my first question. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:03:40 AM EDT
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Make America Great Again!!! From OP's article: *snip* Anyone who kills police officers deserves the death penalty in my opinion! Sentencing should be the same no matter what career the victim had. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:05:50 AM EDT
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No, as long as they THINK an actual crime is being committed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Surely this must be some kind of sick joke right? Please tell me this is trolling or taken out of context. If not, it looks like we're about an inch away from become a total police state. Quoted:
So michael browns family cant sue? How about that guy in cincinnati, his shitbag family cant sue officer Tensing? Very slippery slope honestly, but if you rnot in the commission of a felony etc you dont have much to worry about. This sounds like a protection for the actual good shoots. My biggest problem here is with that part. If the government can show the plaintiff was actually involved in a crime - and get a conviction - not merely being investigated - I'd have no problem limiting their ability to sue. This goes much further. My other problem is that this creates another special class of victims for whom the justice system is free to mead out an extra penalty penalty based upon their status; its akin to hate crimes, but for police. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:30:49 AM EDT
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Meh, I think that story has some twisted facts in it...put the police on a pedestal especially a obvious bad one and deny citizens legal means to get justice and they won't like the results.... |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:33:22 AM EDT
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I'll read through the text but so far I'm leaning towards click-bait thread title and BS article. But the low information cop haters will eat it up like free ice cream. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:38:56 AM EDT
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Sounds like they are pissed off about not being able to do their jobs. It's a backlash against the anti-cop media. Can't say that I blame them. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:41:04 AM EDT
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Oh great, more federal tyranny.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:42:48 AM EDT
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The anti-cop media? This is as stupid as the idea that Christians in the US are under persecution. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like they are pissed off about not being able to do their jobs. It's a backlash against the anti-cop media. Can't say that I blame them. 
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Posted: 5/25/2017 12:02:51 PM EDT
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Link to the actual bill Reading it now, appears to be quite different from OP's summary. Will edit with opinion once I'm done. Edit: i am not a lawyer so my reading of this might be inaccurate but... Don't see any language giving the federal government authority over state/local police. I see language allowing the feds to prosecute for attacks against any form of law enforcement officer. The added liability protection appears to be limited to only cases where a felony or violent crime is being committed. (If you are committing a serious offense, the officers can be more forceful in stopping you without fear of getting sued)
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Posted: 5/25/2017 12:08:41 PM EDT
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FAKE news!
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Posted: 5/25/2017 12:16:29 PM EDT
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How is limiting the liability of police officers of the several States any of the Federal government's business? Wouldn't this be a question properly left for the individual States? That would be my first question. Federal overreach that benefits them or tickles their feels is good. It bothers them not one bit that they have no integrity and that their opposition of similar overreach by the opposing party is hypocritical. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 12:22:50 PM EDT
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I'm not okay with shielding the police as if they can do no wrong, I'm also not okay with throwing them under the bus.
But I guess coming up with a reasonable solution in the middle requires to much time and effort? How hard would it be to word things in such a way that if an officer fucks up he can be held personally responsible in reasonable situations? Like false arrest, or failing to protect a detainee? While protecting him from unreasonable persecution in others? I'm fine with the death penalty part... except I recall a case where lethal force was used to resist false arrest and the guy found not guilty of the murder charge. I'd say that should be an exception. Also, why the fuck is the federal government involved in state affairs? |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 12:35:36 PM EDT
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I'm not okay with shielding the police as if they can do no wrong, I'm also not okay with throwing them under the bus. But I guess coming up with a reasonable solution in the middle requires to much time and effort? How hard would it be to word things in such a way that if an officer fucks up he can be held personally responsible in reasonable situations? Like false arrest, or failing to protect a detainee? While protecting him from unreasonable persecution in others? I'm fine with the death penalty part... except I recall a case where lethal force was used to resist false arrest and the guy found not guilty of the murder charge. I'd say that should be an exception. Also, why the fuck is the federal government involved in state affairs? Imagine a no knock raid on the house of the average ArfCommer. Since we all sleep with one eye open and a firm grip on our night stand AR, as soon as the door gets knocked in at 3:30 am, rounds are flying towards the intruders but, alas!, they are law enforcement busting in the wrong house and they are dropping like flies in a hail of gunfire. So, by reacting the proper way - repelling intruders - we are suddenly subject to extra death penalty charges? If that's the case then this bill is horseshit. |
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