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Posted: 5/24/2017 10:26:54 AM EDT
What do you guys think?

16" 1/9 twist.
SS. Spiral flutes.
.223 Wylde
This One

Don't worry about price. I know I paid a little bit more, but it helps my LGS pay his bills.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:28:50 AM EDT
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It's an E.R. Shaw barrel
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:30:12 AM EDT
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What does that mean?

Me stewpit.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:35:34 AM EDT
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http://www.ershawbarrels.com/

And while ER Shaw is not normally my first choice I have made several really good sub MOA rifles using their barrels..(non-chambered blanks)

made a couple of AR's for some "Team Savage" long distance shooters and they loved them.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:35:45 AM EDT
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That's the manufacturer. Anderson just sells it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:40:01 AM EDT
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What does that mean?

Me stewpit.
That's the manufacturer. Anderson just sells it.
Is that true, or just speculation?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:46:22 AM EDT
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What does that mean?

Me stewpit.
That's the manufacturer. Anderson just sells it.
Is that true, or just speculation?
Its true...
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:50:18 AM EDT
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It should be a shooter...
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:50:22 AM EDT
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Shaw barrels suppose to be top notch? Surprised Anderson uses them
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:52:31 AM EDT
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Anderson has made receivers for over 25 other rifle companies out there.

and people will shit on Anderson while claiming brand "X" is better when in fact that the receiver cam off the same machine with just a marking variance.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:54:49 AM EDT
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Anderson has made receivers for over 25 other rifle companies out there.

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Yup...what he said...
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:55:07 AM EDT
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At least it's not Radical Firearms!
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:57:18 AM EDT
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Anderson has made receivers for over 25 other rifle companies out there.

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What are the other brands they are making?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:57:23 AM EDT
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Anderson has made receivers for over 25 other rifle companies out there.

and people will shit on Anderson while claiming brand "X" is better when in fact that the receiver cam off the same machine with just a marking variance.
Yup...what he said...
But... muh roll mark!!
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:57:30 AM EDT
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I have a $90 Anderson 16" 1:7 twist no-CL, govt profile and a $250 Ballistic Advantage 1:7 stainless govt profile.

The Anderson easily outshoots the BA barrel. I like the BA barrel, but the Anderson is consistently, boringly subMOA with 77gr grain Noslers. The BA is close, but not as consistent or tight.

These are on two otherwise identical rifles using the same optic.

I can't scoff at ER Shaw in this case.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:58:10 AM EDT
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How well will that barrel shoot heavier grained bullets and will OP be shooting heavy stuff?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:58:53 AM EDT
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Anyone care to list out best barrel manufacturers?  Or, at least, ones to avoid completely?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:01:07 AM EDT
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Not going to open that can of worms.

But I can say that they even have made receivers for "COLT"
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:01:50 AM EDT
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I have a $90 Anderson 16" 1:7 twist no-CL, govt profile and a $250 Ballistic Advantage 1:7 stainless govt profile.

The Anderson easily outshoots the BA barrel. I like the BA barrel, but the Anderson is consistently, boringly subMOA with 77gr grain Noslers. The BA is close, but not as consistent or tight.

These are on two otherwise identical rifles using the same optic.

I can't scoff at ER Shaw in this case.
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How many round groups?  How far out?  Can you post some video or pictures?   These are real questions, not an indictment, don't read into it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:02:45 AM EDT
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Anderson has made receivers for over 25 other rifle companies out there.

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Anderson receivers are used by some companies that many guys consider to be "Tier 1" rifles.  It cracks me up when I see guys dissing Anderson, and then talking about how they don't compare to the receiver on their $1500 AR (that just so happens to have a Anderson upper and lower receiver).  Anderson sells a LOT of receivers.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:02:57 AM EDT
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Best for what?  Do you mean most accurate, cheapest, toughest, a blend of all these and more?  
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:04:08 AM EDT
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my favorites not in any order and some for pistols rather than rifles

ER Shaw
Shillen
Criterion
Hart
Krieger
Bartlein
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:05:37 AM EDT
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Anderson receivers are used by some companies that many guys consider to be "Tier 1" rifles.  It cracks me up when I see guys dissing Anderson, and then talking about how they don't compare to the receiver on their $1500 AR (that just so happens to have a Anderson upper and lower receiver).  Anderson sells a LOT of receivers.
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Anderson has made receivers for over 25 other rifle companies out there.

and people will shit on Anderson while claiming brand "X" is better when in fact that the receiver cam off the same machine with just a marking variance.
Anderson receivers are used by some companies that many guys consider to be "Tier 1" rifles.  It cracks me up when I see guys dissing Anderson, and then talking about how they don't compare to the receiver on their $1500 AR (that just so happens to have a Anderson upper and lower receiver).  Anderson sells a LOT of receivers.
Yeah on all kinds of weapon parts the "Who is making what for whom" chart would cause heads to explode. One of the biggest open secrets in the gun manufacturing world.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:05:58 AM EDT
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Yup my Shaw 1/9 shoots 62 grn quite well I am happy with it
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:07:09 AM EDT
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I picked an Anderson barrel. Then my LGS dropped it Mushroomed the muzzle and wrecked the threads. Then they got me a nicer barrel

ETA i ended up selling that rifle but my Franken-AR has an Anderson m4 profile. Accuracy is good 'nuff ~2.0-2.5 moa
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:36:46 AM EDT
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I play with 55gr. I have 62gr GT. However I will give the real heavy stuff a try.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:40:19 AM EDT
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Best for what?  Do you mean most accurate, cheapest, toughest, a blend of all these and more?  
Priority would be accuracy.  Secondary would be durability.  Price would be lowest.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:47:45 AM EDT
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The testing was done at a measured 100 yards because I had a BA barrel that was only delivering 3" 5 shot groups, so in order to return it under their guarantee, I wanted to quantify it as best I could, using the other rifle with everything else the same including optics to eliminate and likely variables like scope movement, mount movement.

I snapped pics for BA but didn't keep them.

I shot five 5 shot groups with each rifle from a bipod and rear squeeze bag, prone, using the same BCM bolt group, a Bushnell Elite 1-6.5x SMRS scope in a Larue SPR-E mount.

To Ballistic Advantage's credit, they were satisfied with the effort and replaced the barrel for nothing out of pocket from me.

The replacement barrel is better, running close to 1-1.25" 5 shot groups.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:52:47 AM EDT
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my favorites not in any order and some for pistols rather than rifles

ER Shaw
Shillen
Criterion
Hart
Krieger
Bartlein
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my favorites not in any order and some for pistols rather than rifles

ER Shaw
Shillen
Criterion
Hart
Krieger
Bartlein
I notice no green mountain on that list?  Is there a reason?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:06:37 PM EDT
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Best for what?  Do you mean most accurate, cheapest, toughest, a blend of all these and more?  
Priority would be accuracy.  Secondary would be durability.  Price would be lowest.
Well if accuracy is your goal... The higher end barrels are where you need to.  Krieger, Bartlein, Shilen, and a few others.

If you are looking for just potential MOA accuracy with some durability built in Faxon and maybe FN.  I have an FN blanked CHF CL that is capable of a REAL 1MOA.  I have other FN blanked that just don't quite get there.(obviously, with quality ammo)

The Faxon sample I have seen, seemed to be MOA capable, and being nitrided should provide with some extra durability.  
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:09:33 PM EDT
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my favorites not in any order and some for pistols rather than rifles

ER Shaw
Shillen
Criterion
Hart
Krieger
Bartlein
I notice no green mountain on that list?  Is there a reason?
Green Mountain are GOOD barrels.  I have been around CL samples but not stainless.  The CL samples were doing 1.5-2MOA and it was only a couple of barrels.  I would not hesitate to buy Green Mountain for a GOOD budget barrel with good accuracy.

They are good and their price helps make them better.  Nothing bad to say about them.  They in my limited experience are not a Krieger or Shilen.  But who knows with their stainless offerings, I do not.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:10:43 PM EDT
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But but but the tier1 internet guys say they all have their own specs and the factories re-tool their equipment each run to meet those tier1 specs
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:11:52 PM EDT
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I have an ER Shaw barrel I turned from a blank on my 6.5 X 55 AI Mauser. It routinely shoots sub MOA.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:17:53 PM EDT
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I posted in another thread, I have had 1 E.R. Shaw barrel.  18" rifle length gas, stainless heavy.  It shot really good early on.  About 1500-2000 rounds in it started to fade.  I just rebarreled that AR with an FN CHF.  It is shooting about the same as the Shaw did early.  The Shaw may have had 4000, maybe 5000 rounds TOPS on it when replaced.  

I can't say that the Shaw was sub MOA or just around MOA, I was never using the best ammo when shooting it early in life.  It had a half and half diet of XM193 and various better quality .223 rounds.
My one and only experience.  

As far as stripped uppers go, I have mainly used Aero and Mega.  I think I have a couple PSA mixed in.  Not sure if Anderson has a hand in any of those.  I am pretty sure they don't with Mega.  I do not patronize Anderson, to each their own.  It has nothing to do with tier whatever.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:27:38 PM EDT
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But I can say that they even have made receivers for "COLT"
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Not going to open that can of worms.

But I can say that they even have made receivers for "COLT"
You already did when you proclaimed they made receivers for others.
So who do they supply?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:51:16 PM EDT
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my favorites not in any order and some for pistols rather than rifles

ER Shaw
Shillen
Criterion
Hart
Krieger
Bartlein
I notice no green mountain on that list?  Is there a reason?
Depends on the build. "This is only my opinion"

for a 10/22 build or a black powder build I have had good experience with them.

I have never used one for a center fire build because the guy that taught me to cut barrels hated them. So I am biased they may be good to go. I would defer to others on opinions on there barrels. I can not say that there is anything wrong with them I just haven't used one.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:51:46 PM EDT
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Anderson has made receivers for over 25 other rifle companies out there.

and people will shit on Anderson while claiming brand "X" is better when in fact that the receiver cam off the same machine with just a marking variance.
But but but the tier1 internet guys say they all have their own specs and the factories re-tool their equipment each run to meet those tier1 specs
I know
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:53:45 PM EDT
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Not going to open that can of worms.

But I can say that they even have made receivers for "COLT"
You already did when you proclaimed they made receivers for others.
So who do they supply?
Any list I have is outdated.

they have done business in the past with

Colt
Wilson
Spikes
(a host of smaller builders)
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It's funny how much of X brands stuff is usually made by another company. Lots of marking variances or parts being produced by other companies and yet people don't seem to understand that.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 1:52:05 PM EDT
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What a timely thread I was going to be picking up an anderson receiver set from aim soon.

75 bucks plus shipping seemed too good to be true.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 2:36:10 PM EDT
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So, I'm ok with this barrel?
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Yes you should be very happy.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:51:40 PM EDT
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Bump for the night crew and our daily drunkards.
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 10:13:10 PM EDT
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Bueller Bueller anyone?
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 10:35:09 PM EDT
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It's more than adequate for your needs, I wouldn't worry too much about it
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What are my needs?
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you said you like to play with 55-62 grain ammunition, your knowledge on barrel manufacturers tells me that it's not competition.  
plus you said you're stupid, so pretty much any barrel that stabilizes average weight ammunition
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What are my needs?
you said you like to play with 55-62 grain ammunition, your knowledge on barrel manufacturers tells me that it's not competition.  
plus you said you're stupid, so pretty much any barrel that stabilizes average weight ammunition
For some reason I feel less adequate and I feel I have no one to blame but my self.
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For some reason I feel less adequate and I feel I have no one to blame but my self.
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What are my needs?
you said you like to play with 55-62 grain ammunition, your knowledge on barrel manufacturers tells me that it's not competition.  
plus you said you're stupid, so pretty much any barrel that stabilizes average weight ammunition
For some reason I feel less adequate and I feel I have no one to blame but my self.
If it makes you feel better, I'll give you $100 + shipping for it.  Not a big loss, but feeling less adequate has it's price.
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If it makes you feel better, I'll give you $100 + shipping for it.  Not a big loss, but feeling less adequate has it's price.
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What are my needs?
you said you like to play with 55-62 grain ammunition, your knowledge on barrel manufacturers tells me that it's not competition.  
plus you said you're stupid, so pretty much any barrel that stabilizes average weight ammunition
For some reason I feel less adequate and I feel I have no one to blame but my self.
If it makes you feel better, I'll give you $100 + shipping for it.  Not a big loss, but feeling less adequate has it's price.
when I reach the twilight of my years, I have faith that Cialis will be there for me
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