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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:36:10 AM EDT
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Havent seen nearly as much these last few deployments as much as the early 2000s. Of course, there is now almost a majority of female sailors that are gay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, when you figure the women that get knocked up so they miss their deployment .... 
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:37:13 AM EDT
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Well.... If you took a regular ship, a combat ready ship, a medium sized airport, a nuclear power plant, a machine/welding/fab shop, a small municipal public utility, plus the contractors to work on/fix all of the above... how many people do you think you would have? |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:38:16 AM EDT
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I got out as an EW1. I worked on the SLQ(slick) 32. I used to get dirty looks on the mess decks both times I was in the gulf because I would show up with a jacket on. There would be guys there trying to eat while they were sweating their ass off from being out in the 100 degree heat. It wasn't my fault our equipment had to stay cold
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:39:44 AM EDT
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Being a FC on a carrier was the best (CV-64 1993-94), I didn't know how good I had it. It was a real wake up call when I went Aegis and went to a CG. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kept the 43B at 97% + up time. I never deployed with the 43C, but I wasn't impressed by what I saw with it. My 41 died constantly in the Gulf. Man, I hated that thing. We rigged ducts out of cardboard to blow the air directly onto the equipment in the domes, which helped, but then we got nailed for flammable materials in the domes.  Our big problem child (this was 96-97) was the 48C. I spent most of that deployment helping the FCs keep that POS running. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:40:23 AM EDT
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EL OH EL
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:42:03 AM EDT
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I got out as an EW1. I worked on the SLQ(slick) 32. I used to get dirty looks on the mess decks both times I was in the gulf because I would show up with a jacket on. There would be guys there trying to eat while they were sweating their ass off from being out in the 100 degree heat. It wasn't my fault our equipment had to stay cold
My radar room was 55 degrees or colder. Year around. I would come out of my radar room in the Gulf wearing a foul weather jacket and my lips turning blue and run into some poor bastard who just came off of the flightdeck about to fall out from heat stroke. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:44:01 AM EDT
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Gay sailors? Oh damn--what is this world coming to?? |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:44:33 AM EDT
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They operate 90+ aircraft 24/7/265. Now image running an airport that moves, all day, all night. And it can shoot it's own weapons, feed it's own people, and run it's own hospital and dental clinics...
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:47:09 AM EDT
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if you have been on one in war time you would know
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:48:26 AM EDT
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I kept the 43B at 97% + up time. I never deployed with the 43C, but I wasn't impressed by what I saw with it. My 41 died constantly in the Gulf. Man, I hated that thing. We rigged ducts out of cardboard to blow the air directly onto the equipment in the domes, which helped, but then we got nailed for flammable materials in the domes. Our big problem child (this was 96-97) was the 48C. I spent most of that deployment helping the FCs keep that POS running. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:49:54 AM EDT
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Reactors were never guarded by Marines. Special weapons have been gone for a long time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MARDET's have been gone from carriers for a LONG fucking time. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:51:48 AM EDT
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It's like a cruise ship, 24/7 service
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:52:52 AM EDT
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In my travels, I met the wife of a retired USN person responsible for the maintence of a the nuclear reactor about ship, and she describes very succinctly, "the USN is very anal about maintence, even way more so than private industry," which she explain why there are very few accidents involving the reactor aboard ships. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well.... If you took a regular ship, a combat ready ship, a medium sized airport, a nuclear power plant, a machine/welding/fab shop, a small municipal public utility, plus the contractors to work on/fix all of the above... how many people do you think you would have? Then when you realize that almost all the civ nuke plants are run by former Navy nukes, you realize Rickover's legacy extends even far beyond DOD. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:53:32 AM EDT
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Been a long time for me...Still must be on Sub tenders tho I would think. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MARDET's have been gone from carriers for a LONG fucking time. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:58:02 AM EDT
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if you have been on one in war time you would know
http://www.navysite.de/cvn/cvn71patchwarcruise99.jpg
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:59:18 AM EDT
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Some of my friends were FCs (I was an ET.) They all seemed to enjoy it. Being a 41/43 tech could really suck when your equipment was being bitchy. At least I wasn't a 42 or 46 tech! Those poor bastards... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kept the 43B at 97% + up time. I never deployed with the 43C, but I wasn't impressed by what I saw with it. My 41 died constantly in the Gulf. Man, I hated that thing. We rigged ducts out of cardboard to blow the air directly onto the equipment in the domes, which helped, but then we got nailed for flammable materials in the domes. Our big problem child (this was 96-97) was the 48C. I spent most of that deployment helping the FCs keep that POS running. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:00:24 PM EDT
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The ships crew is about 2500, the arising is about 2500 (in 6-9 squadrons), staffs, DESRON, SEAL teams add another 150 or so.
Ships crew runs the entire city. Airport Fire department Engineering Nuclear Reactor Combat Food Services Laundry Intel Navigation Communications Medical Dental AIMD Repairs, etc Many positions are 24/7. So you have to carry onboard reliefs. It's a huge integrated city. Nothing else like it on the planet. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:01:20 PM EDT
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Damn Airport Wi-Fi.
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:04:14 PM EDT
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We finally got a new air conditioning system that helped a little for the 41. I never saw 48C -- we had 48E even on my first CVN back in the late 90s. 43, my techs were miracle workers -- but it was a constant battle. Same thing with the damn 41. Didn't help getting bad parts from the supply system either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kept the 43B at 97% + up time. I never deployed with the 43C, but I wasn't impressed by what I saw with it. My 41 died constantly in the Gulf. Man, I hated that thing. We rigged ducts out of cardboard to blow the air directly onto the equipment in the domes, which helped, but then we got nailed for flammable materials in the domes. Our big problem child (this was 96-97) was the 48C. I spent most of that deployment helping the FCs keep that POS running. We had lots of problems with bad rotary couplers from supply with the 43B. It hit the point where the contractor rebuilding them lost the contract and someone else got it. Things got better after that. With the 41, I was reduced to cracking the transmitters open (even though they were sealed and depot level repair) and cannibalizing bad ones to try and make a good one.
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:06:00 PM EDT
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I got to the Constellation soon after the Saratoga shot that Turkish ship with Sea Sparrow so it made people nervous. I was an uncoded tech right out of A school and they asked me if I wanted to work in the Sea Sparrow shop or CIWS, I picked Sea Sparrow. We rarely even had birds in the launcher unless we were going to do a missile shoot, so we didn't even have underway watches. I spoke with a friend after I left and he said they only loaded both launchers shortly before they made it to the Gulf. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kept the 43B at 97% + up time. I never deployed with the 43C, but I wasn't impressed by what I saw with it. My 41 died constantly in the Gulf. Man, I hated that thing. We rigged ducts out of cardboard to blow the air directly onto the equipment in the domes, which helped, but then we got nailed for flammable materials in the domes. Our big problem child (this was 96-97) was the 48C. I spent most of that deployment helping the FCs keep that POS running. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:06:28 PM EDT
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Been a long time for me...Still must be on Sub tenders tho I would think. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:11:34 PM EDT
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have you ever stood next to one, they're massive
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:14:00 PM EDT
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We got 48E in 98. 48C was ancient, even by Navy standards. We had lots of problems with bad rotary couplers from supply with the 43B. It hit the point where the contractor rebuilding them lost the contract and someone else got it. Things got better after that. With the 41, I was reduced to cracking the transmitters open (even though they were sealed and depot level repair) and cannibalizing bad ones to try and make a good one.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kept the 43B at 97% + up time. I never deployed with the 43C, but I wasn't impressed by what I saw with it. My 41 died constantly in the Gulf. Man, I hated that thing. We rigged ducts out of cardboard to blow the air directly onto the equipment in the domes, which helped, but then we got nailed for flammable materials in the domes. Our big problem child (this was 96-97) was the 48C. I spent most of that deployment helping the FCs keep that POS running. We had lots of problems with bad rotary couplers from supply with the 43B. It hit the point where the contractor rebuilding them lost the contract and someone else got it. Things got better after that. With the 41, I was reduced to cracking the transmitters open (even though they were sealed and depot level repair) and cannibalizing bad ones to try and make a good one. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:15:53 PM EDT
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have you ever stood next to one, they're massive |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:19:38 PM EDT
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Imagine running an airport that moves, all day, all night. And it can shoot it's own weapons, feed it's own people, and run it's own hospital and dental clinics... |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:19:58 PM EDT
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We did the exact same thing with those fucking transmitters for the 41. My guys got very good at cannibalizing them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kept the 43B at 97% + up time. I never deployed with the 43C, but I wasn't impressed by what I saw with it. My 41 died constantly in the Gulf. Man, I hated that thing. We rigged ducts out of cardboard to blow the air directly onto the equipment in the domes, which helped, but then we got nailed for flammable materials in the domes. Our big problem child (this was 96-97) was the 48C. I spent most of that deployment helping the FCs keep that POS running. We had lots of problems with bad rotary couplers from supply with the 43B. It hit the point where the contractor rebuilding them lost the contract and someone else got it. Things got better after that. With the 41, I was reduced to cracking the transmitters open (even though they were sealed and depot level repair) and cannibalizing bad ones to try and make a good one. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:23:44 PM EDT
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Ive spent years of my life underway on them and even to this day still am impressed walking up to one. Really has to be seen to be believed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:26:32 PM EDT
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How else do you expect to efficiently run a small, moving city?
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:27:59 PM EDT
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have you ever stood next to one, they're massive |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:32:44 PM EDT
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It's a floating nuclear military base with it's own airport, mini Walmart, 24hr chow hall, and medical and dental clinic, etc....
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:39:43 PM EDT
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Anal doesn't begin to cover it when it comes to nuke maintenance. Then when you realize that almost all the civ nuke plants are run by former Navy nukes, you realize Rickover's legacy extends even far beyond DOD. Coworker is a sub nuke guy. The things he said they did were amazing. Rad con team. 2 weeks in Bremerton, WA with teams split and going back to Scotland to do the work. Mountains of paperwork, 14-16 hour days at a minimum, and no one hurt, nothing contaminated, everything worked (or made to work). Of course, you screw up, you go to Leavenworth he always said. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:41:54 PM EDT
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Running with a smaller crew was considered, until the "Missouri incident" occurred on a minimally staffed battleship on its farewell cruise. A disgruntled former CIA hitman, the XO, and a gang of former military disguised themselves as a rock band and managed to take over the ship during the captain's birthday party. Their goal was to sell the tomahawks on the ship to a foreign power, but they were thwarted by a former SEAL who was brought on as a ship's cook in order to be able to finish his 20. Although the assailants were stopped and ultimately killed, there were numerous fatalities (including the captain) so the idea of minimal crews was scrapped. AWESOME!!!
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:44:16 PM EDT
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I thought they were carrying a lot less than that lately. So this is from Wikipedia, for what that's worth. Looks like a lot fewer than 90 planes now typically carried United States 21st-century fleet carriers typically embark 45 McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet aircraft for traditional fighter, attack and ECM roles with twelve Sikorsky SH-60 Seahawk helicopters, four Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye AEW aircraft and two Grumman C-2 Greyhound COD aircraft.[22] |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 12:49:16 PM EDT
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Do the pilots have to share their jets with the other shifts pilots? Or do they have enough jets to fulfill all three shifts without sharing them?
If they do have to share, then what criteria is met to have the pilot from one shift get to put his name on the plane? |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 1:05:01 PM EDT
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Do they buff the hallways in the Navy? |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 1:13:13 PM EDT
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Do the pilots have to share their jets with the other shifts pilots? Or do they have enough jets to fulfill all three shifts without sharing them? If they do have to share, then what criteria is met to have the pilot from one shift get to put his name on the plane? 
Three shifts...  
Pilots and NFO's "work" the flight schedule. Maintenance and admin work 12 hour shifts. There are more pilots than there are planes in Navy squadrons. Pilot and NFO names on planes are selected by rank and then by seniority. Some squadrons put names on both sides of the aircraft. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 3:22:26 PM EDT
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They operate 90+ aircraft 24/7/265. Now image running an airport that moves, all day, all night. And it can shoot it's own weapons, feed it's own people, and run it's own hospital and dental clinics... |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 4:51:03 PM EDT
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i beg to differ at least in some instances cause.....my son rode one...... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They operate 90+ aircraft 24/7/265. Now image running an airport that moves, all day, all night. And it can shoot it's own weapons, feed it's own people, and run it's own hospital and dental clinics... |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 4:53:00 PM EDT
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If I remember right, didn't they put a pair of them into the bridge of that Turkish destroyer? Sea Sparrow incident |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 5:07:19 PM EDT
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i beg to differ at least in some instances cause.....my son rode one...... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They operate 90+ aircraft 24/7/265. Now image running an airport that moves, all day, all night. And it can shoot it's own weapons, feed it's own people, and run it's own hospital and dental clinics... Are you mistaking an amphib assault ship for a carrier? Or was it a specific mission where they temporarly had some Marines on a carrier? |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 5:09:11 PM EDT
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Which Carrier? When? What's his MOS? Are you mistaking an amphib assault ship for a carrier? Or was it a specific mission where they temporarly had some Marines on a carrier? |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 6:08:31 PM EDT
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There's 5000 people to run that ship. It's an entire floating city and failure is not an option.
Respect to my Dad who served in the USN on the aircraft carrier, USS Yorktown CV-10 |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 6:27:30 PM EDT
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What's the color of the boathouse at Hereford?
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Posted: 5/24/2017 7:35:59 PM EDT
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Unless he's an air winger, in which case that comment doesn't apply anyway, not in the last 30 years or so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/24/2017 7:42:25 PM EDT
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We had no marine security forces on the Carl Vinson CVN 70 when I was on her in 91-92 in Bremerton Wa. IIRC their berthing was being repurposed during the yard period. I can't remember what the spaces were going to be used for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/24/2017 7:43:23 PM EDT
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We had no marine security forces on the Carl Vinson CVN 70 when I was on her in 91-92 in Bremerton Wa. IIRC their berthing was being repurposed during the yard period. I can't remember what the spaces were going to be used for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/24/2017 7:51:11 PM EDT
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It takes a lot of people under the deck running really fast to turn the treadmill.
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Posted: 5/24/2017 8:02:30 PM EDT
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In my travels, I met the wife of a retired USN person responsible for the maintence of a the nuclear reactor about ship, and she describes very succinctly, "the USN is very anal about maintence, even way more so than private industry," which she explain why there are very few accidents involving the reactor aboard ships. There is a saying, Navy plants are designed by geniuses to be run by idiots. Commercial is designed by idiots to be run by geniuses. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 8:45:17 PM EDT
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Some of them staff the bowling alley. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 8:52:35 PM EDT
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And some have to fix the pinball machines, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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