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Posted: 5/23/2017 6:10:24 PM EDT

How can I help him?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:11:45 PM EDT

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GTFO

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:12:18 PM EDT

[#2]

Hookers and blow?

A.W.D.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:13:28 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/23/2017 6:13:44 PM EDT

[#4]

Hand jobs on the hour.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:14:57 PM EDT

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LOL.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:15:09 PM EDT

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You can't help him, but it sounds like the new doctor is irresponsible and possibly committing malpractice. If your friend has a seizure and lives, he could become very wealthy.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:17:06 PM EDT

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Go to a third MD.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:17:34 PM EDT

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but... incase this isn't a troll.

Klonpin is a Benzo. People DIE from Benzo and Alcohol withdrawals.
Take him to a medical facility with a detox unit.
After he will need substance abuse counsuling and AA or even NA to get his head right and prevent a relapse or other fucked up behavior.

I'm serious.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:18:35 PM EDT

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That's not how it works.

It's a highly abused benzo.

The new doctor could have any number of reasons for not issuing a new prescription.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:20:14 PM EDT

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:20:31 PM EDT

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tie him to a chair until his withdrawal is over

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:20:48 PM EDT

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Unlikely.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:22:07 PM EDT

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tie him to a chair until his withdrawal is over

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Can he also whip him with a belt and destroy his speakers?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:23:00 PM EDT

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That's not how it works.

It's a highly abused benzo.

The new doctor could have any number of reasons for not issuing a new prescription.

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You can't help him, but it sounds like the new doctor is irresponsible and possibly committing malpractice. If your friend has a seizure and lives, he could become very wealthy.

That's not how it works.

It's a highly abused benzo.

The new doctor could have any number of reasons for not issuing a new prescription.

Likely there are chart entries about needing to come in for an eval before additional prescriptions are written.

Abusers hate when new doctors do that.

For the uninitiated, you can't MAKE a new doctor write questionable prescriptions simply because you used up all your drugs.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:24:08 PM EDT

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but... incase this isn't a troll.

Klonpin is a Benzo. People DIE from Benzo and Alcohol withdrawals.
Take him to a medical facility with a detox unit.
After he will need substance abuse counsuling and AA or even NA to get his head right and prevent a relapse or other fucked up behavior.

I'm serious.

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This is true. I worked as a paramedic at a detox facility. People who are in full withdrawal from benzos could die. If your buddy starts to have seizures it is a very bad and he could die.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:25:55 PM EDT

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

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He was most likely given a tapering schedule, didn't follow it, and now wants more Benzos.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:26:57 PM EDT

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Winner winner chicken dinner. This guy gets it.

Your "friend" is trying to get more benzos. Also, pick better friends.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:29:45 PM EDT

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What dose was he taking.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:30:10 PM EDT

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Buddy is/was not a drug abuser. Got a script on urging from MD. I don't like watching this.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:30:29 PM EDT

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What dosage was he on before getting cut off?

Edit: beat by wingnutz

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:31:17 PM EDT

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but... incase this isn't a troll.

Klonpin is a Benzo. People DIE from Benzo and Alcohol withdrawals.
Take him to a medical facility with a detox unit.
After he will need substance abuse counsuling and AA or even NA to get his head right and prevent a relapse or other fucked up behavior.

I'm serious.

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every part of this

eta: get him professional help op

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:32:25 PM EDT

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Are you and your friend grown men?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:34:46 PM EDT

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

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Even at therapeutic doses?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:35:38 PM EDT

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He was most likely given a tapering schedule, didn't follow it, and now wants more Benzos.

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

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He was most likely given a tapering schedule, didn't follow it, and now wants more Benzos.

Yep. Recently saw an elderly lady go into benzo withdrawal because she blew through her taper. Her original dose was 2mg Klonopin 4 times a day.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:38:26 PM EDT

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You might want to consider that story you are getting from your friend may not be the full story.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:38:36 PM EDT

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

Even at therapeutic doses?

Yes because people build up a tolerance to benzodiazepines fairly quickly. So his "therapeutic dose" could be very high.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:38:50 PM EDT

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Buddy is/was not a drug abuser. Got a script on urging from MD. I don't like watching this.

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His MD urged him to be on scheduled benzos to the point he is having withdrawals? I think there is more to this story.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:39:29 PM EDT

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First, tell him not to panic...

Unless he was taking it for a panic disorder.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:40:24 PM EDT

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buddy did not seek out the scrip. took it on good faith and it suffering like hell now. should I bring him food or beer? I'm not comfortable watching someone suffer like this?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:40:54 PM EDT

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He was most likely given a tapering schedule, didn't follow it, and now wants more Benzos.

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

+1

He was most likely given a tapering schedule, didn't follow it, and now wants more Benzos.

A benzo addict lying, manipulating, and being non-compliant?

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Posted: 5/23/2017 6:40:58 PM EDT

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Yes because people build up a tolerance to benzodiazepines fairly quickly. So his "therapeutic dose" could be very high.

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

Even at therapeutic doses?

Yes because people build up a tolerance to benzodiazepines fairly quickly. So his "therapeutic dose" could be very high.

I thought they were as needed and not a routine thing. To build up a tolerance wouldnt you have to eat them on a regular basis?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:42:13 PM EDT

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I'm asking because I'm very familiar with this drug. He might be ready for this:

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:42:39 PM EDT

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It'll sort itself out on its own, given time.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:43:23 PM EDT

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I thought they were as needed and not a routine thing. To build up a tolerance wouldnt you have to eat them on a regular basis?

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

Even at therapeutic doses?

Yes because people build up a tolerance to benzodiazepines fairly quickly. So his "therapeutic dose" could be very high.

I thought they were as needed and not a routine thing. To build up a tolerance wouldnt you have to eat them on a regular basis?

See my first post in this thread. Just saw a lady who was on a massive scheduled dose for the past 30 years.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:43:49 PM EDT

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Pat him on the back while saying "there,there. There,there".

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:44:01 PM EDT

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That you knew about.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:44:22 PM EDT

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buddy did not seek out the scrip. took it on good faith and it suffering like hell now. should I bring him food or beer? I'm not comfortable watching someone suffer like this?

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You're not sure?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:45:34 PM EDT

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What level of dosage are we talking about when the withdrawals can cause death?

How long was O.P.'s friend on klonopin for him to have such bad withdrawal symptoms?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:45:37 PM EDT

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Buddy is/was not a drug abuser. Got a script on urging from MD. I don't like watching this.

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Have you ever known a drug abuser? They are some of the most cunning and sophisticated manipulators you will ever meet. It's not like one would tell you he's an abuser unless it was part of a way to manipulate you.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:45:51 PM EDT

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I thought they were as needed and not a routine thing. To build up a tolerance wouldnt you have to eat them on a regular basis?

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As long as they are taken with some regularity, then yes, you will build a tolerance. Since no one of us were witnesses to how many he would take compared to what his script was for, we can only make an educated guess as to what is going on based on the info given to us here.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:47:06 PM EDT

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LOL, doc was an idiot if he took a benzo popper on as a new patient.

Locally, if you want to get an appointment as a new patient with a primary care physician, they want you to fax over your pharmacy records and medical records. Pill poppers need not apply.

Tell your friend to find some idiot nurse practitioner. They don't think, they just take down instructions, ha ha. He can get what he wants.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:48:00 PM EDT

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buddy did not seek out the scrip. took it on good faith and it suffering like hell now. should I bring him food or beer? I'm not comfortable watching someone suffer like this?

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Suffering how? What was he taking it for?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:48:22 PM EDT

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See my first post in this thread. Just saw a lady who was on a massive scheduled dose for the past 30 years.

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I also call BS. Abrupt benzo withdrawal will cause seizures/coma/death in that order. No MD would ever cut someone's benzos cold turkey.

Even at therapeutic doses?

Yes because people build up a tolerance to benzodiazepines fairly quickly. So his "therapeutic dose" could be very high.

I thought they were as needed and not a routine thing. To build up a tolerance wouldnt you have to eat them on a regular basis?

See my first post in this thread. Just saw a lady who was on a massive scheduled dose for the past 30 years.

Oh ok. I had no idea those types of meds were prescribed like that.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:49:16 PM EDT

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I take 2 different kinds of benzos for insomnia. I don't understand why someone would take so much as to be dependent?.

You (most people) already know you build up tolerance for drugs, then they don't work anymore.

Then you have super insomnia. That's why I don't take them if I don't have an obligation the next day. Sometimes I actually go through periods I can somewhat sleep.

You should never take them for long periods of time.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:49:29 PM EDT

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Wean him onto heroin.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:50:40 PM EDT

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Nope not buying his story.
Sounds like a drug seeker and the MD called him on it.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:51:29 PM EDT

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Have you ever known a drug abuser? They are some of the most cunning and sophisticated manipulators you will ever meet. It's not like one would tell you he's an abuser unless it was part of a way to manipulate you.

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Yes. When you finish an interaction with someone and you have less energy/money you have experienced an addict. I account my relationships in this fashion because of past exposure with addict assholes.

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:52:19 PM EDT

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I thought they were as needed and not a routine thing. To build up a tolerance wouldnt you have to eat them on a regular basis?

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I can't imagine taking them several times a day. I take them at night, at most 3 times in a row.

Don't buy the friends story though. Pillheads are manipulative liars

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:52:38 PM EDT

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Um, take him to a hospital?

Posted: 5/23/2017 6:53:23 PM EDT

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Yep. After dealing lying sneaky drug addicts for 16 years, you are spot on.

OP, you are getting played. Plain and simple. You can sit here and try to justify it to us all you want but some of us deal with this all the time and can see what's going on.

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