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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:00:02 PM EDT
[#1]
I won't party with them
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:00:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Absolutely not. MYOFB. If you have a problem with someone, confront them yourself.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:01:13 PM EDT
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As the title says, is being one of those people that snitches, tattletales, runs to the boss to repeat things heard unethical? do we have or getting a society that cannot wait to tattle so they can be held in higher regard by those above them? Reported. 
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:01:39 PM EDT
[#4]
depends - situational ethics and all that.
If snitching saves lives, then it isn't even a question. If snitching saves someone a shitload of money, again not a question. If it is over petty bullshit, then what's the point? |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:01:47 PM EDT
[#5]
Depends on the situation.
Was it any of your business in the first place? If not, then yeah, not very ethical to snitch. You witnessed a murder or kidnapping? Go snitch. You live in society. Identifying dangerous criminals is everyone's business. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:02:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Depends on the situation.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:02:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Snitches get Stitches
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:02:50 PM EDT
[#8]
If it prevents something bad from happening, yes.
I'm not going to watch my department take a hit because someone was too lazy to do their job. I'm going to call them out, make them do their job, or get rid of them. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:03:06 PM EDT
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Depends. If the act being reported is illegal, then it's not unethical. If it's not illegal but the person is doing it for self-promotion, then it is unethical. I experienced the latter numerous times from one subordinate who went to my boss all the time. It finally caught up with him and after he was called on the carpet, suffered a nervous breakdown and filed a claim stating I caused him to stress out. Like an idjit, he accepted $50k to resign.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:03:06 PM EDT
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Snitches get Stitches Don't be a bitch. Don't hang out with bitches. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:03:07 PM EDT
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There's a distinct difference between running to somebody and volunteering information...and telling the truth if asked a direct question.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:06:35 PM EDT
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depends - situational ethics and all that. If snitching saves lives, then it isn't even a question. If snitching saves someone a shitload of money, again not a question. If it is over petty bullshit, then what's the point? This. You have an ethical responsibility to report things like unlawful actions or things that could harm the business. Petty he said, she said garbage - FOAD. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:08:20 PM EDT
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Inmates do it all the time. It's business.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:09:12 PM EDT
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There's a distinct difference between running to somebody and volunteering information...and telling the truth if asked a direct question. 
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:12:27 PM EDT
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depends - situational ethics and all that. If snitching saves lives, then it isn't even a question. If snitching saves someone a shitload of money, again not a question. If it is over petty bullshit, then what's the point? 
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:14:48 PM EDT
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A snitch or a rat is someone who gets in trouble and then sells out their friends to save their own ass.
Someone who overhears gossip at the office and runs to tell the boss is just being petty. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:14:56 PM EDT
[#17]
 Goodfellas - Never Rat on Your Friends |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:17:52 PM EDT
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As the title says, is being one of those people that snitches, tattletales, runs to the boss to repeat things heard unethical? do we have or getting a society that cannot wait to tattle so they can be held in higher regard by those above them? IMO it depends on what you're reporting. If I'm not one of the bosses it's not my problem if someone is goldbricking a bit but not causing problems. Bosses will figure that out on their own. On the other hand there are things they need to know, and if it's something that could get someone seriously hurt or killed, or if someone is stealing from the company I'd probably go talk to them. I'd talk to the person doing the dangerous stuff first though. Thieves don't get a warning. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:21:29 PM EDT
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At work, when it comes to safety (mine), I will rat out my own mother if talking to them first doesn't work.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:27:12 PM EDT
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You mean like finding out someone started a program that would cost the company over $300K with no returns and you know the boss did not approve it?
One in which when the boss did find out about it he would want to know who knew what when and why was he not informed? |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:38:30 PM EDT
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depends - situational ethics and all that. If snitching saves lives, then it isn't even a question. If snitching saves someone a shitload of money, again not a question. If it is over petty bullshit, then what's the point? No such thing as a fast and hard rule. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:38:32 PM EDT
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Snitches are a dying breed.
All BS aside if it is going to jeopardize the safety, health, & wellbeing of yourself or other employees or crew members. Give it up. If it is going to cost the company money, potential lawsuits, loss of contracts. Let it be known. In House gossip. Who gives a shit. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:41:17 PM EDT
[#23]
So common these days
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:43:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Is the behaviors being reported unethical? I am sure the unethical participants consider the reporter to be a snitch. Does that actually make the reporter a snitch, or are they actually an honorable person for reporting the unethical behavior. You tell me.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:43:23 PM EDT
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I won't party with them |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:44:50 PM EDT
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Always ask yourself...... " what do I hope to accomplish by talking"
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:46:00 PM EDT
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"Snitches get stiches, and end up in the ditches."
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:46:30 PM EDT
[#28]
It's called a whistleblower.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:52:13 PM EDT
[#29]
Like when a coworker is committing felony level offenses? Yes. Totally unethical to "rat" on them.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 4:34:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2017 4:39:31 PM EDT
[#31]
I don't think framing it in ethics is necessarily the best option.
The real question is, if you act in that manner(Snitching), who will it socially effect you if you extrapolate the behavior and apply it across a broader span of time. Will it positively effect you in the social realm long term? |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 7:48:16 PM EDT
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So common these days Now this is nothing illegal, nothing safety concerned. I was asked why we use a certain item on a production line from time to to when another item would be easier. My response was, because that's the way they have always done it, and it's not goods to criticize how we do it. This person ran to his supervisor and repeated what I said. The super says we use it because of the rotation..............pure BS. I have seen a guy in my shop ratting people for small minor stuff, he said , she said stuff, but in the small company I work for, this is how people get a ahead. Time to look for new job ! |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 7:56:03 PM EDT
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I don't think framing it in ethics is necessarily the best option. The real question is, if you act in that manner(Snitching), who will it socially effect you if you extrapolate the behavior and apply it across a broader span of time. Will it positively effect you in the social realm long term? Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't think framing it in ethics is necessarily the best option. The real question is, if you act in that manner(Snitching), who will it socially effect you if you extrapolate the behavior and apply it across a broader span of time. Will it positively effect you in the social realm long term? Quoted:
This. Now this is nothing illegal, nothing safety concerned. I was asked why we use a certain item on a production line from time to to when another item would be easier. My response was, because that's the way they have always done it, and it's not goods to criticize how we do it. There would rarely be advancements in any field if reliance was always on "the way it's always been done". Not saying how he handled your answer was the right tactic. Why is it not good to question how things are done, and why are questions automatically treated as criticism? |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 7:58:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Are you snitching to make someone look bad or is there a larger interest like safety or reputation at stake?
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:05:16 PM EDT
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Are you snitching to make someone look bad or is there a larger interest like safety or reputation at stake? |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:10:21 PM EDT
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I'm the one getting snitched on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you snitching to make someone look bad or is there a larger interest like safety or reputation at stake? |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:13:07 PM EDT
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I feel as if we just had this conversation Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:13:15 PM EDT
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Disagree. Doing something "because that's always the way it's been done" is rarely a good answer. There would rarely be advancements in any field if reliance was always on "the way it's always been done". Not saying how he handled your answer was the right tactic. Why is it not good to question how things are done, and why are questions automatically treated as criticism? They are very reluctant to change things at all. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:14:03 PM EDT
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Fuck rats. All rats have to suck the pipe, baby.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:14:25 PM EDT
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without going into the nuances of ethical theory, it just depends on the situation. it's a matter of moral duty for the potential reporter. does he have a moral obligation to you? to the employer? to the customer? it is a matter of conscience?
if his keeping silent would be an abdication of his duty to the employer (a safety issue, for example), then it would be wrong for him not to report. if he's just doing it to curry favor at your expense, that's shitty. OTOH, business is business, and if a competitor makes an error, a smart businessman will make use of that. capitalism is harsh, but fair. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:19:38 PM EDT
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That never feels good. Double check yourself. Were you in the righ? But then, he would say I wasn't helpful, it's a no win sometimes. As an example, a guy, saw another guy checking Golf score on a company computer, he ratted him out, the guy that did the ratting does the same fucking thing. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:20:52 PM EDT
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Since I've been there, I've been told that many times , by this same supervisor and my manager. They are very reluctant to change things at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Disagree. Doing something "because that's always the way it's been done" is rarely a good answer. There would rarely be advancements in any field if reliance was always on "the way it's always been done". Not saying how he handled your answer was the right tactic. Why is it not good to question how things are done, and why are questions automatically treated as criticism? They are very reluctant to change things at all. Eta: Saw that you are not his supervisor. Correct answer would be ask your supervisor, yep. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:23:14 PM EDT
[#43]
Nope. Never
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:24:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Just to be clear.I don't go to work to rat people out. I never have and never will !
I just go MMOB and follow company policies. This si really nothing more than personality and back stabbing. If the are breaking safety rules like LOTO, I would say something to them directly, not run to a higher up. No crimes are being committed, no paper work is being falsified. This is just everyday stuff that comes up at a small manufacturing facility. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:24:36 PM EDT
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Depends. Internet shit? Stay the fuck away from that report button, pussy. Street fight? I'm not calling anyone.
Hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, etc? Yep, ratting. Child porn? Same, totally ratting. So my answer is: it depends. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:25:23 PM EDT
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If you are in a position of leadership over nimrod the rat, it should be your duty to analyze his concerns and either report them to higher management, act on them or dismiss them. If you dismissed them and he went to higher management, he needs fired. Eta: Saw that you are not his supervisor. Correct answer would be ask your supervisor, yep.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:27:11 PM EDT
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I'm just a dumb wrench turner.................. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:36:45 PM EDT
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Since I've been there, I've been told that many times , by this same supervisor and my manager. They are very reluctant to change things at all. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:43:21 PM EDT
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Does that make it right? |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:46:10 PM EDT
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It makes it an environment of "do as you're told and shut up ! |
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