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Posted: 5/19/2017 8:53:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Guy is probably an asshole.
However, my time is money. Don't fucking waste it. If you want an hour lesson/consultation on this or that, be man enough to pay for it unless you're a close friend. If you want to come in my shop and watch while your stuff is being done, interrupt me, distract me so I have to check the same shit 3 times instead of once...fine, but you're going to pay extra. You can have your old parts back. 
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Posted: 5/19/2017 8:54:28 AM EDT
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The man is tired of the tire kickers He's too fucking stupid to realize how much business he's losing by being a holier-than-thou dickhead. Hey asshole, you polish metal a bit and you think that makes you a god-level gunsmith? Get the fuck out of here. His services page makes it obvious he's no fucking gunsmith. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 8:57:00 AM EDT
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99% of the time "gunsmith"=mouth breathing retard. That appears to hold true with this clown.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 8:59:34 AM EDT
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More gunsmiths should stand at a bench and do less visiting and holding court.
But that character needs a reality check. He probably faces one every day as he tries to pay the bills |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:00:58 AM EDT
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99% of the time "gunsmith"=mouth breathing retard. That appears to hold true with this clown. The man is no gunsmith. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:04:22 AM EDT
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This. Reviewing his "work" I wouldn't send him shite. "A standard pistol of any make has a "Defensive" range of 12 feet to 20 yards. In contrast, A Combat NCO® is an "Offensive" pistol and is effective from 2 feet to 400 yards."  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Geocities-quality website is just the icing on the cake. Quoted:
We have our own local nutjob. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:05:56 AM EDT
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He's the soup Nazi of gunsmiths
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:06:33 AM EDT
[#8]
I bet you can guess who will NOT be receiving any gunsmith business from me...
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:09:00 AM EDT
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I was kinda like right on right until this. That's fucked up Q: Will you return my old parts after you replace them with new parts? A: NO, not unless you request it IN ADVANCE, and usually pay a small core charge. Yes, just like almost all auto parts stores, they charge a core fee until you return the old parts. I do sell off the old take off parts as scrap to the "garage gunsmiths" to tinker with. I have no problem returning your old parts to you, just a small extra fee that's all. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:17:06 AM EDT
[#10]
Navigating his website hurts.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:19:48 AM EDT
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Yea, he's selling you parts you already own and paid for. That's straight up con man territory. A core charge is generally when you buy something that is remanufactured. So you buy some refurbished electrical component, engine, pump, whatever. The core charge is only a incentive for you to bring back your old part so I can send it back to the reman facility. Selling new parts, unless its some EPA thing with engines, you can keep your old parts no issue. Then again this is only my experience in a specific industry |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:20:09 AM EDT
[#12]
But he does SUCH good work!  
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:22:56 AM EDT
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You think that's odd? Just wait until you read about how he's developing cold fusion. He's straight up looney. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Geocities-quality website is just the icing on the cake. Quoted:
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:23:01 AM EDT
[#14]
I don't even like paying to get into Disney World. I'm not paying some guy to walk in his door.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:24:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryBlending on the slide isn't even consistent....
Ribbed for your pleasure? |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:24:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryRibbed for nobody's pleasure?
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:27:06 AM EDT
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I've heard of this clown over the years and across many gun forums. Consensus is he's an ass, his prices are nuts, and his work is average. I've known fucking artists, knife artisans and engravers who's work you could stare for hours, that would be glad to talk with you all afternoon and dont have these kind of diva delusions. Charging clients for dropping by your shop? GTFO!! |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:28:09 AM EDT
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He calls this one the "Spikegun", and when you right click the link it helpfully elaborates, calling it "THE GUN FROM HELL ! " Emphasis, exclamation point, and surplus spacing is his, not mine. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:28:14 AM EDT
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This
And a core charge for gun parts? I've never had a smith try to pull that on me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holly shit. That guy must be insufferable to talk to in real life.
And a core charge for gun parts? I've never had a smith try to pull that on me. Murry Urbach |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:32:26 AM EDT
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For $100 I'd let him talk to me about building a website from this century.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:34:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:36:36 AM EDT
[#22]
I should start charging for my posts. My time ain't free.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:37:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryFuck that asshole.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:37:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:41:13 AM EDT
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In my experience, the BEST Gunsmiths have a little "Soup NAZI" in their personality. However, this clown just sounds like an asshole. From the examples he posts of his work, I wouldn't let him touch a NERF gun!
 $110 to drop off a gun PLUS another $100 to pick-up that same gun? You have to buy back your old parts? FUCK THAT 
I kinda get the charges for telephone consulting. Every minute a good gunsmith spends explaining to some slack-jawed idiot WHY he can't convert his AR into a machinegun is a minute he is not working on paying customers projects. I also kinda get the $35 for submitting a filthy gun before being able to work on it. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:41:30 AM EDT
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[color=BLUE][color=BLUE][color=BLUE][color=BLACK]YOU have decided to contract custom work performed on your weapon.
Therefore YOU are solely liable and responsible for any and all accidental discharge, malfunction, or any other problem(s) that may arise from your weapon or any modifications to it. No warranties of any kind are expressed or implied at any time. ( THIS DOES NOT MEAN I WOULD BE UNWILLING TO HELP AND/OR FIX A PROBLEM, ONLY THAT I AM NOT OBLIGATED )[/color][/color][/color][/color] I would love to know what he charge for a core charge... |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:44:10 AM EDT
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ONLY $19.95 + S/H ( S/H = $6 Uninsured or $9 Insured ) |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:55:27 AM EDT
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In an age where a customer will go to the next guy over $5 you have to reach a compromise.
I was a general manager of an avionics shop before I got out of aviation. A quote, was far more than just finding the price tags of the equipment. Every job was custom, and by the time you have the legality of the installation down enough to put it on paper. It wasn't rare to have 20 hours into it. I fought an "admin fee" with the owner until the day I quit. He was so dead set in charging a customer $200 for phone time that he'd let a $100k job leave the hanger. Stepping over dollars to pick up Penny's. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:56:16 AM EDT
[#29]
Cleaning fee seems reasonable. Everything else
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:57:10 AM EDT
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Reminds me of the guy who was doing the 1911 .22LR conversions...Ceiner?? |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:02:05 AM EDT
[#31]
Wow, the guy strikes me as a complete tool. I won't ever be doing any business with him.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:05:00 AM EDT
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LOL!!! No. Just jaded. Gun plumb with a minimal staff, and you spend more time away from the bench. "Minimal staff" is more than most Gun plumbers ever get. Time is money. You ever notice that there are no 'Smiths listed as the top 500 richest Americans? 
Odd coincidence, but true. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:10:51 AM EDT
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People like that are why I strive to know all my guns inside and out so I can do it myself.  Add the fact that most people learn what they know about guns from TV/movies/video games and it doesn't help...
What makes it worse is then you get gunsmiths like this guy that are "mediocre" and these strange weird lashing out out the populace and it does nothing but cost him business and make us laugh. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:12:04 AM EDT
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And a core charge for gun parts? I've never had a smith try to pull that on me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holly shit. That guy must be insufferable to talk to in real life.
And a core charge for gun parts? I've never had a smith try to pull that on me. 
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:13:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:14:23 AM EDT
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2 words Murry Urbach Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holly shit. That guy must be insufferable to talk to in real life.
And a core charge for gun parts? I've never had a smith try to pull that on me. Murry Urbach
WOW. What a POS. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:14:44 AM EDT
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If you buy new parts, and the old parts were on your gun, I thought you owned both? I always thought you were given your old parts back, unless you tell them to keep them? WTF?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holly shit. That guy must be insufferable to talk to in real life.
And a core charge for gun parts? I've never had a smith try to pull that on me. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:15:18 AM EDT
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He says police officer and not agencies. So he's cool with cops stripping parts off guns and bringing them to him so he can use them? If they are to be destroyed, they should be and not parted out by scrappers. If the agency wants to sell parts, that's up to them but it sure looks like he profits off of confiscated guns. I am angered more by a policy to destroy them to begin with. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:19:08 AM EDT
[#39]
He bills the very same way a lawyer does.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:22:34 AM EDT
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Holly shit. That guy must be insufferable to talk to in real life.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:25:31 AM EDT
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We had a smith just like that here about twenty years ago.
I think he's selling timeshares in Colorado today.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:27:02 AM EDT
[#42]
Sounds like one of those guys who mumble and are pissed off at everything.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:31:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:33:38 AM EDT
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Dealing with the sorts of muppets he is apparently catering to, I suppose you would need some sort of schmuck filter.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:35:27 AM EDT
[#45]
Dude needs to get laid.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:35:50 AM EDT
[#46]
I was kinda nodding along reading until the "core charge" bullshit. Then I looked at his work.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:37:17 AM EDT
[#47]
His Web site design is terrible also.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:38:52 AM EDT
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"I have boycotted certain companies for 20 years + because of a severe lack of warrantee honor. I don't want to name anyone in particular, but I'll say their name starts with a Trij ! "
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:41:08 AM EDT
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Q: Do you have any recommendations for a Holster?
A: Well, to preserve the finish on the slide, the best is any soft nylon holster Starting Jan 1, 2012 I am charging a minimum fee of $35 for any gun sent in that is filthy or gummy with grease. If your gun is just dusty, or you ran a couple mags though it then it is no problem, no charge. BUT if you have not cleaned you gun in 100's or 1000's of rounds, you can expect to pay a cleaning fee ($35 - $95) Also if you gun is clean, but you have filled it with any grease, Froglube, or anything similar, it is MINIMUM of $35 cleaning fee (Froglube = $95 cleaning). If you send me your gun without the cleaning fee and I find it filthy or greased up, I will contact you for the extra $, so don't be shocked. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:43:51 AM EDT
[#50]
I knew it was TJ before I opened the link.
I hear him though. |
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