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Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:02:15 AM EDT
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This is a bombshell.

I find it hilarious in context of all the Russia stuff since the mountain of evidence is all sitting on one side.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:08:54 AM EDT
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From the Fox News article:  
"A federal investigator who reviewed an FBI forensic report detailing the contents of DNC staffer Seth Rich’s computer generated within 96 hours after his murder, said Rich made contact with Wikileaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time.

“I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and Wikileaks,” the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.

The revelation is consistent with the findings of Rod Wheeler, a former DC homicide detective and Fox News contributor and whose private investigation firm was hired by Rich’s family to probe the case. Rich was shot from behind in the wee hours, but was not robbed."


So I think we can assign proper weight to Wheeler's statements and should focus on the statement from the federal investigator who actually read the emails and hope more corroboration is given by other people that have seen the evidence.  From this point on people that point to Wheeler and try to discredit him while ignoring this other source can be considered shills.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/slain-dnc-staffer-had-contact-with-wikileaks-investigator-says.html   
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:11:12 AM EDT
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Partially. If you give away who your source is future sources won't feel safe.
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This. Assange should have leakers sign a release to either hide their identities under all circumstances or release it if they are imprisoned/die.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:13:04 AM EDT
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Americans and their government couldn't protect Seth Rich in his own country. What are a dozen private individuals going to do?
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I know everyone hates Homeland the TV show but the last season felt just like this. Shadowy government affiliated assassin stopping truthers.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:13:43 AM EDT
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Yeah but doesn't hurt to be repeated.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:14:38 AM EDT
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Media will a) ignore b) call it fake news c) discredit the PI or d)  all of the above
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It's on Fox News (channel).
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:15:00 AM EDT
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From the very beginning of this story it read like another death by Clinton association.

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL (source)

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:15:08 AM EDT
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Breitbart is running it too.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:16:18 AM EDT
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Of course they will.  The Media *IS* the Democratic Party.
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The story broke, in spectacular fashion, from FOX DC - not one of those low quality right wing websites.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:17:54 AM EDT
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The investigator has no access to the laptop. The article said it's in police custody. Or FBI, he doesn't know. He's shooting off his mouth with zero evidence.
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Did you even watch the Fox DC video? He has a report that shows all the times Seth contacted Julian. He's releasing it today.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:19:36 AM EDT
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Tomorrows headline: Seth rich had ties to Russia
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:21:30 AM EDT
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So the PI never saw the computer, but has a "source" in the PD that is giving him this information?  lol
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And the FBI never saw the Hillary Server.......
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:28:20 AM EDT
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FRONT PAGE OF FOX NEWS

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Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:31:18 AM EDT
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How easy would it be for Comey to make Seth Rich's laptop disappear or delete the evidence once it's checked into FBI evidence?
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:34:31 AM EDT
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How easy would it be for Comey to make Seth Rich's laptop disappear or delete the evidence once it's checked into FBI evidence?
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Can't now lol

Before being canned, probably not to hard.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:36:12 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:37:09 AM EDT
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How easy would it be for Comey to make Seth Rich's laptop disappear or delete the evidence once it's checked into FBI evidence?
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Probably an increased level of difficulty now
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:41:00 AM EDT
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Probably an increased level of difficulty now
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Lol you know what I mean.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:41:48 AM EDT
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"The federal investigator, who requested anonymity, said 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between Democratic National Committee leaders, spanning from January 2015 through late May 2016, were transferred from Rich to MacFadyen before May 21."

From Fox News main article.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:46:03 AM EDT
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Is a Political assassination  handled by local cops or federal?
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:48:18 AM EDT
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Funny how all this breaks after Comey is fired..... 4d chess.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:49:41 AM EDT
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Of course not a peep about it at CNN communist fake news!
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:50:33 AM EDT
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we knew this 8 months ago.

The Russia story was known fake from day one.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:52:03 AM EDT
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Assange told us this in an interview last year. Assange said Rich was his source.

Funny how no one on this site reads the news. LOL. This story was all over the internet last summer.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:52:07 AM EDT
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Funny how all this breaks after Comey is fired..... 4d chess.
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Oddly coincidental, indeed.

"Yeah, you're pushing "Da Russians" investigation, meanwhile we have this laptop that shows... You're Fired!"
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:54:42 AM EDT
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The investigator has no access to the laptop. The article said it's in police custody. Or FBI, he doesn't know. He's shooting off his mouth with zero evidence.
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Not necessarily. You have a sender and a recipient in a e-mail. Someone, somewhere was on the receiving end and they have copies of the e-mail.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:57:19 AM EDT
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Assange told us this in an interview last year. Assange said Rich was his source.

Funny how no one on this site reads the news. LOL. This story was all over the internet last summer.
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You're missing my point. Of course we knew the info second hand and had our suspicions, but nobody in the MSM was willing to report on it as long as Comey was still in charge and running interference.

Comey gets canned, and a few days later people close to the investigation are coming out of the wood work and the media start running with the football.

I've been a criminal investigator for 25 years... doesn't take one to connect the dots on this case....
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 8:57:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:00:43 AM EDT
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You're missing my point. Of course we knew the info second hand and had our suspicions, but nobody in the MSM was willing to report on it as long as Comey was still in charge and running interference.

Comey gets canned, and a few days later people close to the investigation are coming out of the wood work and the media start running with the football.

I've been a criminal investigator for 25 years... doesn't take one to connect the dots on this case....
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Agreed. I read Comey had these emails for a while.  Trump probably found out that Comey had the Rich-wikileaks emails. That got Comey fired with cause. Trump knew the Russian story was over.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:02:18 AM EDT
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That is a very good question.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:03:38 AM EDT
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I think this case will go far beyond the nighttime pundits and sound bite circus. I would not be surprised to see a grand jury impaneled in the next 60 days or so.

ETA: I also would not be shocked to learn that the unfolding events were a direct result of the Comey firing... Or at the very least, propagated by it.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:05:09 AM EDT
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And at the same time, the "Trump gave classified intel to the Russians" story breaks.
Coincidence? I think not.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:06:22 AM EDT
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Assange told us this in an interview last year. Assange said Rich was his source.

Funny how no one on this site reads the news. LOL. This story was all over the internet last summer.
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lol you are incorrect. Assange strongly hinted at it but never once confirmed it. His hints, including offering a reward, was enough for many, including myself, to believe. There was countless threads of this when that broke.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:08:09 AM EDT
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I think this case will go far beyond the nighttime pundits and sound bite circus. I would not be surprised to see a grand jury impaneled in the next 60 days or so.

ETA: I also would not be shocked to learn that the unfolding events were a direct result of the Comey firing... Or at the very least, propagated by it.
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This has the potential to be one of the biggest world news stories in recent years, of course after Trump winning the presidency.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:10:31 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:14:53 AM EDT
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In before NeverTrumpers who cite former anonymous officials in the WaPo and CNN as the word of God and question the validity of these reports?
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:16:02 AM EDT
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He himself couldn't do it easily.

He could have some lower level functionary accomplish it. But it's not just the laptop...it's also the images they create of the data on the laptop. Every digital investigator worth their salt creates multiple backups of the data on a target device. Getting the laptop and deleting the data from whatever storage they are on AND the backups is difficult to accomplish in a clandestine manner.

If it was accomplished, it would be blatantly obvious that it had to be done from the top. And criminal liability would likely be attached to those actions.
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He himself couldn't do it easily.

He could have some lower level functionary accomplish it. But it's not just the laptop...it's also the images they create of the data on the laptop. Every digital investigator worth their salt creates multiple backups of the data on a target device. Getting the laptop and deleting the data from whatever storage they are on AND the backups is difficult to accomplish in a clandestine manner.

If it was accomplished, it would be blatantly obvious that it had to be done from the top. And criminal liability would likely be attached to those actions.
Silly man.

Believes "criminal liability" applies to any of the Clinton puppets.

Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:19:01 AM EDT
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It's pretty obvious Clinton had him killed.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:20:20 AM EDT
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From the very beginning of this story it read like another death by Clinton association.

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL...
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To play Devil's Advocate for a moment, the people who debunk this list will say that "everyone dies sooner or later," "accidents happen," "police (i.e., the Arkansas State Troopers who were part of the Clinton security detail when he was governor) are in a dangerous job and it's not unusual that they are killed," etc etc etc.

And I agree, to a point, they are correct.

Still and all though, this list has always disturbed me, and it was the first thing I thought of when I saw the news story on Fox about Seth Rich this morning.

The most damning name on that list is Vince Foster, BTW, and I will NEVER believe the "official version" of his death.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:20:25 AM EDT
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There's already an article claiming Seth Rich was killed by Russian operatives because he discovered their hacking plot

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/238926113-story
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:21:03 AM EDT
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There's already an article claiming Seth Rich was killed by Russian operatives because he discovered their hacking plot

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""I was approached by a guy who styles himself as a former U.S. intel officer," Burkman said. "I quizzed him. I think he's credible - you never know the motive of people. But what he said is basically this - that Seth discovered that the Russians had been hacking and therefore the Russian government did away with Seth.""
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:21:18 AM EDT
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Being a whistleblower in the era of our all-powerful media/government is apparently quite dangerous.
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Knowing too much about the Clintons has always been hazardous to your health.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:22:58 AM EDT
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There's already an article claiming Seth Rich was killed by Russian operatives because he discovered their hacking plot

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The Clintons have a very powerful and well organized disinformation machine, and you will see it go into overdrive pretty soon here.

Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:23:58 AM EDT
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Good question. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. My guess is this goes pretty high up. I'm 100% certain the Clintons have a few boys on the payroll willing to get down and dirty with any wet work they need done or at a minimum orchestrate what needs to be done.

Probably went down like this:
Clinton hitman (whoever they are) paid or persuaded a couple local thugs to shoot him so any witnesses or cameras would see it and their hands would be clean if they got caught right away. Then probably knocked off the thugs and made it look like a gang related murder or drug overdose. Problem solved no one is going dig real deep on those murders, they happen everyday. Boom! Leak fixed. 

I swear I'm not a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:27:41 AM EDT
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To play Devil's Advocate for a moment, the people who debunk this list will say that "everyone dies sooner or later," "accidents happen," "police (i.e., the Arkansas State Troopers who were part of the Clinton security detail when he was governor) are in a dangerous job and it's not unusual that they are killed," etc etc etc.

And I agree, to a point, they are correct.

Still and all though, this list has always disturbed me, and it was the first thing I thought of when I saw the news story on Fox about Seth Rich this morning.

The most damning name on that list is Vince Foster, BTW, and I will NEVER believe the "official version" of his death.
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From the very beginning of this story it read like another death by Clinton association.

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL...
To play Devil's Advocate for a moment, the people who debunk this list will say that "everyone dies sooner or later," "accidents happen," "police (i.e., the Arkansas State Troopers who were part of the Clinton security detail when he was governor) are in a dangerous job and it's not unusual that they are killed," etc etc etc.

And I agree, to a point, they are correct.

Still and all though, this list has always disturbed me, and it was the first thing I thought of when I saw the news story on Fox about Seth Rich this morning.

The most damning name on that list is Vince Foster, BTW, and I will NEVER believe the "official version" of his death.
I'm really not a fan of lists, and there are a lot of them that float around that are utter bullshit -- the "Obama fired the Generals" list comes to mind immediately.  

But this one...  I've seen some who try to debunk it.  I think some of the names on it are probably just hazards of the job or old age or whatever -- but there's just too fucking many names that can't be explained on that list.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:30:06 AM EDT
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LOL!  Yep!
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:34:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2017 9:37:08 AM EDT
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Assange retweeted yesterday.

Wikileaks retweeted today.

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