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Link Posted: 4/30/2017 10:12:56 AM EDT
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Yeah the NSDAP was pretty dangerous starting when Hitler began speaking and the German economy tanked. They had support in ALL the centers of power in Germany, Industrial, Military, Church, and Monarchy. Antifa is a bunch of idiotic college kids and so called Intellectuals still trying to find some kind of platform to win support for a base. From what I see all that they have had to even put them in the news is Trump winning which tells me a majority of their supporters are just whiny little Hillary people who still cant accept they lost. That and people on the welfare roles with a lot of free afternoons, along with the college nitwits playing revolutionary just to piss off Daddy.

The NSDAP had few problems winning over the people they needed, the disaffected working class who made up by far the majority in Germany at the time. American workers are a tougher sell when some group of hair balls tells them they have to pay more taxes and turn over their property for the good of the people already getting welfare checks for life. I guess thats why Commissar Obama liked importing new blood from 3rd world countrys to fill the ranks and stack future elections. They are capable of a small meanness here and there as Ive said. Maybe an assassinated policeman or Politician, maybe a bad riot, certainly obstructing free speech. And they do have some cover Politically, most of all in that shit hole California with comrades like Dianne Feinstein.

The NSDAP was the real deal. From the beginning they said what they were going to do and never wavered. The only adjustment they made is when they ran for a free election ONCE.

It was heady stuff for a proud nation feeling stepped on by the Depression and Versailles treaty. And it was aimed directly AT the middle class. NSDAP 25 point Program
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Also well said, I hadn't thought about what it took to get them on the news so you're right.

And I think somewhere amongst all the troll allegations someone said the communists all voted for the NSDAP, to eliminate capitalism iirc. But true to form as a totalitarian regime they won and subsequently burnt down their form of congress. 
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 10:15:32 AM EDT
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OP is a leftist troll trying to bait people on a gun forum to say nice things about fascism so  he can claim that conservative gun owners are Nazi sympathizers.

I am not being sarcastic with this statement.
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You are exactly right.  He started another thread trying to call people racist in some 'hypothetical' family situation he claimed he was in.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 10:23:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/30/2017 10:23:18 AM EDT
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Fascism always involves a socialist type economic system, thus it is NOT ever right wing.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 10:23:31 AM EDT
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So googling the word and using their skewed 'faux definition' is research?

LoLoLazy you are

Try this ACTUAL definition on for size....

fascism
1: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2:  a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
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Your definition lacks the Cult of Personality, which is also a large part of fascism.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 10:27:39 AM EDT
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Fascism is for the only liberty which can be a serious thing, the liberty of the state and of the individual in the state. Therefore for the fascist, everything is in the state, and no human or spiritual thing exists, or has any sort of value, outside the state.
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(Benito Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism 1932)

That's my big heartburn with fascism. The only people who endorse that are either communists in sheep's clothing, or have a favorite flavor of paint chip.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 10:29:34 AM EDT
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You are exactly right.  He started another thread trying to call people racist in some 'hypothetical' family situation he claimed he was in.
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OP is a leftist troll trying to bait people on a gun forum to say nice things about fascism so  he can claim that conservative gun owners are Nazi sympathizers.

I am not being sarcastic with this statement.
You are exactly right.  He started another thread trying to call people racist in some 'hypothetical' family situation he claimed he was in.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1989371_Family-situation----advice-needed.html

In this thread it is hard to tell if he is a leftist troll or a really shitty nazi.  But based on the family situation troll thread, it is clear he is a leftist baiting a gun board.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 10:35:58 AM EDT
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I want to make sure I understand, ANTIFA says Jews are our masters (our being trump supporters) and uses derogatory language about Jews?

DO THEY KNOW WHO FUNDS THEIR BULLSHIT?!
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 You do know that Soros sold out his fellow Jews to Nazi's...right?

Link Posted: 4/30/2017 11:14:27 AM EDT
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You have no idea what I am saying.

IF communism had triumphed we'd be on AK104.com talking of the evils of the bourgeois.
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Holy fuck. Stalin was a mass murderer and Che Guevara murdered women and kids. Sorry to burst your revisionist history bubble.

ETA- Communism cannot work without force as you drive out incentive for production. God damn pick up an economics book sometime.
You have no idea what I am saying.

IF communism had triumphed we'd be on AK104.com talking of the evils of the bourgeois.
Uh. If communism had triumphed, we wouldn't have guns or a platform for free speech.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 12:26:26 PM EDT
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Im here offering up an honest discussion and you're arguing like an Antifa beta.

Explain WHY fascism is so bad or get out. My argument is that fundamental fascism ain't that bad, for the reasons explained above.

Or... do you have no argument other than feels?
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That leaves a 0.1% chance you're just retarded.
Im here offering up an honest discussion and you're arguing like an Antifa beta.

Explain WHY fascism is so bad or get out. My argument is that fundamental fascism ain't that bad, for the reasons explained above.

Or... do you have no argument other than feels?
I'll use small words so you understand.

Fascism is people telling me what to do. If I say no, those people shoot my dog and kidnap me. I don't like being told what to do.

Capitalism is me doing what I want. I like doing what I want, and I like my dog not being shot.

Did that clear things up for you?
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 12:30:22 PM EDT
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No. You're quite wrong. Comically wrong.  Instead of making things up, try doing actual research.
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who the fuck are you.

The guy who posted that spent a career studying how to defeat communism.

he is absolutely correct in defining fascism as a left wing socialist ideology when viewed through the american definition of left right
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 12:47:15 PM EDT
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The left is a walking/talking " I don't that word means what you think it means" meme. They use a word that people hate to refer to something they hate and hope the transference sticks.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 1:06:39 PM EDT
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Did some research; let's have a discussion. 

Whats so so wrong with fascism?

fas·cism'faSH?iz?m

/noun
  1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

1. Authoritarian, ok like a king? 
2. Nationalistic, I like the sound of that.
3. Right wing, sounds good to me.

If you look objectively at our case studies, all nations that were fascist did well internally. So I ask, whats so bad about being fascist?
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Fuck serfdom.   Fascist have historically been anti-gun except for their party's own supporters.  Fascism/Nazism belongs in a trash can right next to Communism/Fabianism.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 3:06:54 PM EDT
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You are exactly right.  He started another thread trying to call people racist in some 'hypothetical' family situation he claimed he was in.
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OP is a leftist troll trying to bait people on a gun forum to say nice things about fascism so  he can claim that conservative gun owners are Nazi sympathizers.

I am not being sarcastic with this statement.
You are exactly right.  He started another thread trying to call people racist in some 'hypothetical' family situation he claimed he was in.
Which is where I think he was going with the whole 1920 NSDAP party policy statement and saying that fascists didn't sound so bad...while leaving off the fact that it was from the 1920 NSDAP party policy statement. Trying to get people to say,"No that doesn't sound so bad..." to get to the inevitable "Ah ha!"

The thing is some of us have degrees in history and can spot a 1920s Nazi policy statement from miles away. I've also seen it done increasingly of late with aspects of the New Deal, of course the people that try that also fail to grasp that some of us actually also understand that the New Deal era was the closest our country has ever come to actual fascism. When Count Ciano is taking notes of FDR's NRA (not that one) and CCC parades to take back to Il Duce so he can adapt them for Italia, it's what is known as a clue.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 3:30:07 PM EDT
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The left is a walking/talking " I don't that word means what you think it means" meme. They use a word that people hate to refer to something they hate and hope the transference sticks.
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Yep. The left is full of shit as usual. They have to redefine all of the terms that hurt their twisted religion/cult/scam(s) Whether they have to use google to edit the true definitions posted on the net or other means, they do.

They've been busy.
Link Posted: 5/1/2017 9:30:39 AM EDT
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No, no, you got that from Google, didn't you?  About the time people started calling Trump fascist, Google changed their definition so that people could call Trump fascist.

A more correct definition is:

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Did some research; let's have a discussion. 

Whats so so wrong with fascism?

fas·cism'faSH?iz?m

/noun
  1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

1. Authoritarian, ok like a king? 
2. Nationalistic, I like the sound of that.
3. Right wing, sounds good to me.

If you look objectively at our case studies, all nations that were fascist did well internally. So I ask, whats so bad about being fascist?


No, no, you got that from Google, didn't you?  About the time people started calling Trump fascist, Google changed their definition so that people could call Trump fascist.

A more correct definition is:


Fascism /'fæ??z?m/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2], characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce
How does this definition differ in practice from from the USSR, its satellites, and the Socialist Whatever of Venezuela?
Link Posted: 5/1/2017 9:48:17 AM EDT
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I'll answer with a question?

How many people need to die to get the shareholders another 1/4 point?
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People die because we don't ride up and down the road passing out our leftovers every evening.

People die because we allow smoking.

People die because we allow private ownership of guns.

People die because we allow big, strong, short-tempered people to walk around loose.

People also die because if manufacturers designed cars so that every occupant looked like the Michelin Man would cost (a) enough to make cars inaccessible or (b) 1/4 point per share, which is more than the cost of compensating the survivors of people who die because they weren't swaddled in Michelin Man suits when they wrecked.

None of those things is remotely comparable to murdering people because they denounce the government or hide potatoes.
Link Posted: 5/1/2017 9:59:48 AM EDT
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If they knew what a fascist is, they'd know that Bubba and Hitlery, 0 and Dubya were all cut from the same bolt of cloth.  Fascism is the merger of state and corporate power.  All of them supported the use of government power to further the interest of various businesses.  When you look at your bank statement and see how little interest you get for your savings (actually, the bank's assets since you're only an unsecured creditor), you can thank Bubba and 0 (as well as Greenspan and Osama Ben Ber Nank).  When you get groped at the airport by Touch Some Arse, you can thank Dubya.  When you get booted off your land so it can be sold to some Chinese solar company, you can thank the Dept. of Interior and while you munch on your sandwich with its roundup ready wheat, you can thank the FDA that is heavily influenced by the chemical industry.  Yep, fascism is here and has been here for decades.  Most Americans don't realize it - especially the idjit antifa crowd who are Soros funded cronies.
Link Posted: 5/1/2017 10:00:03 AM EDT
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(Benito Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism 1932)

That's my big heartburn with fascism. The only people who endorse that are either communists in sheep's clothing, or have a favorite flavor of paint chip.
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Fascism is for the only liberty which can be a serious thing, the liberty of the state and of the individual in the state. Therefore for the fascist, everything is in the state, and no human or spiritual thing exists, or has any sort of value, outside the state.
(Benito Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism 1932)

That's my big heartburn with fascism. The only people who endorse that are either communists in sheep's clothing, or have a favorite flavor of paint chip.
There are real distinctions between fascism and socialism in theory.

In practice among actual humans, however, they are almost indistinguishable.  Only nomenclature separates them.  Both distill down to oligarchy with little or no individual rights or property ownership.
Link Posted: 5/1/2017 10:07:24 AM EDT
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This guy like him some Tom Hanks.
Link Posted: 5/1/2017 10:43:47 AM EDT
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