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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:21:04 PM EDT
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If you are sexually attracted to children, there is something wrong with you, period, end of story.
Doesn't matter if you've acted on it or not. If you have acted on it, you need a bullet in your brain. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:21:45 PM EDT
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I hate people who hurt children.
If I ever were to lose it and just rip somebody to pieces with my bare hands, it would probably be a pedophile. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:25:34 PM EDT
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I kind of agree with their assumption but technically they are not a pedophiles if they have never acted on those desires in anyway. Although that thought process should not be considered normal. Because I have yet to see one. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:25:50 PM EDT
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Assaulting those you find annoying is not a disorder. It is, in fact, quite natural. Anyone who has raised children knows this. It is the norms of society that keeps these hobbesian impulses repressed. It is only from your comfort of an unnatural society that you think this behavior abnormal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You just argued for the opposite of what you think you did lol. You're arguing that you do in fact have a mental disorder because you have the desire to assault someone, and if you try to say it's not a mental disorder then that's normalizing it. Just like pedophiles. It is only from your comfort of an unnatural society that you think this behavior abnormal. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:27:38 PM EDT
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Our time on this planet is almost over. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:29:09 PM EDT
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At what age, morally, can a person consent to sex? Don't think legally, but morally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh. when conservatives pointed out, correctly, that after gay marriage the normalization of pedophilia was the next "civil rights" issue, the libertarians on here almost all mocked and said thats nonsense. Gay marriage is an issue between consenting adults. Pedophilia involves sex with children. Children, who by definition, cannot give consent to acts they aren't mature enough to understand. They're not even remotely the same issue. One does not logically follow the other because the one doesn't have anything to do with the other. Unless you assume that homosexual is synonymous with pedophile. Which I don't. Don't think legally, but morally. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:32:09 PM EDT
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Good question, and hard to pin down isn't it? I think we would ALL agree- conservatives, liberals, and libertarians alike that a pre-pubescent child cannot consent. There are people right now putting pre-pubescent children on a regimen of life-altering drugs on the theory that they are "transgendered" I don't think we ALL would agree. Not even close. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:36:45 PM EDT
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Good thing pedophilia isn't mainstream anywhere else in the world. Especially in a huge religious group.
Oh wait, Islam. But sure, never here. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:37:48 PM EDT
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Every single last homosexual man would do children if he thought he could get away with it. The aim of the homosexual agenda has always been to legalize sex with children. This is another step towards that goal. 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:37:50 PM EDT
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I would love for someone to show me someone who wants to have sex with children that has never acted on those desires in any way. Because I have yet to see one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kind of agree with their assumption but technically they are not a pedophiles if they have never acted on those desires in anyway. Although that thought process should not be considered normal. Because I have yet to see one. But they would never ever succumb to that temptation, right? |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:41:32 PM EDT
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Yeah, I know... Sounds weird, over-the-top, and completely insane, don't it? Now, go read up on NAMBLA, look at their published strategies, and then still tell me he's nuts. This has actually been written and discussed about in the pedophile "community" as a means to their ends. There is enough actual evidence there that you can't completely dismiss and discredit these types when they come out of the woodwork, and the sad fact is, the gay community has done this to themselves by their near-complete refusal to so much as criticize the loons like NAMBLA. There's going to be a comeuppance for the entire gay and lesbian community, one day, and the relatively sane ones who are not on the fringes are going to be the innocent victims of the real loons pushing the rest of society into dealing with their bullshit in an emphatic way. The pendulum swings, and when you push it so far away from center, it just comes back the other direction harder, faster, and a lot further. You got the "Victorian repression of sexuality" in large part due to the immediately preceding period of "Georgian and Regency licentiousness". Same thing will happen again, only this next time? I think it's going to be ugly as fuck; care to guess what sort of nuttiness those kids who get permissively sexually abused will come up with, to "punish their abusers"? I don't. But, they'll have their revenge, one way or another. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:42:06 PM EDT
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And every heterosexual man would do little girls if he could get away with it, right? |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:43:36 PM EDT
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There are people right now putting pre-pubescent children on a regimen of life-altering drugs on the theory that they are "transgendered" I don't think we ALL would agree. Not even close. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good question, and hard to pin down isn't it? I think we would ALL agree- conservatives, liberals, and libertarians alike that a pre-pubescent child cannot consent. There are people right now putting pre-pubescent children on a regimen of life-altering drugs on the theory that they are "transgendered" I don't think we ALL would agree. Not even close. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:50:04 PM EDT
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A bunch of experts in an increasingly scientific field have made a collective decision to differentiate between state of mind and intent. Hardly worth declaring the pedo-apocalypse over... ETA: inb4 "pedo lover". I'm just saying that crying foul over a technical distinction in a diagnostic manual is very alarmist. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:50:47 PM EDT
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It is nonsense. No one, outside of a handful of whackjobs, is defending pedophilia. Or normalizing it. Or trying to change anyone's attitude about it. Gay marriage is an issue between consenting adults. Pedophilia involves sex with children. Children, who by definition, cannot give consent to acts they aren't mature enough to understand. They're not even remotely the same issue. One does not logically follow the other because the one doesn't have anything to do with the other. Unless you assume that homosexual is synonymous with pedophile. Which I don't. i will say this though, it is a handful of powerful/rich whackjobs |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:52:06 PM EDT
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Every single last homosexual man would do children if he thought he could get away with it. The aim of the homosexual agenda has always been to legalize sex with children. This is another step towards that goal. 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:55:38 PM EDT
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It will happen in stages. 1. Next will come the "CP is actually good because it is a release valve, so mere possession of CP should be decriminalized." 2. Then it will be "We need to remove the laws prosecuting people from going overseas for underage sex, because different societies differ on how they treat age of consent, and we shouldn't be imperialist." 4. Then it will be "We need to let the parents decide, because it might be rational for a disadvantaged person to approve of pedo sex if their local culture permits it." And if we haven't hung the bastards from lamp posts by that point, you don't want to know what comes next. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:55:59 PM EDT
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In that case your first post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:56:29 PM EDT
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Every single last homosexual man would do children if he thought he could get away with it. The aim of the homosexual agenda has always been to legalize sex with children. This is another step towards that goal. how much are they paying you to make us look bad shill? ETA beat, on every single point goddammit |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:05:01 PM EDT
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Of course it does. Societies exist to imlose rules for the collective safety and security of its citizens. It is its only legitimate purpose. Laws against pedophilia impose an artificial morality based upon moralistic determinations. They are literally the imposition of other peoples morals by force. Only now you agree with them so its cool Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In that case your first post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:06:06 PM EDT
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I actually wonder if some of the people who commented read the article or just took the OP word for the "evil left trying to let pedo's rape their children". I guess psychology and scientific study are leftist tools of the devil. But look at it this way once pedophilia becomes normalized then maybe sexual harassment wont be so faux pas and the "right" can get Bill O'reilly back on the air Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A bunch of experts in an increasingly scientific field have made a collective decision to differentiate between state of mind and intent. Hardly worth declaring the pedo-apocalypse over... ETA: inb4 "pedo lover". I'm just saying that crying foul over a technical distinction in a diagnostic manual is very alarmist. But look at it this way once pedophilia becomes normalized then maybe sexual harassment wont be so faux pas and the "right" can get Bill O'reilly back on the air |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:11:01 PM EDT
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Should I feel guilty if I had pizza for lunch.
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:11:38 PM EDT
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Good question, and hard to pin down isn't it? I think we would ALL agree- conservatives, liberals, and libertarians alike that a pre-pubescent child cannot consent. With that agreed upon (except for a small crazy minority) the question is what age? Well, I think most would say "better safe than sorry" and you can't vote until you're 18 so let's just go with that, with the exception of like 16+ and a >2 year differential like some states have. Makes sense to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh. when conservatives pointed out, correctly, that after gay marriage the normalization of pedophilia was the next "civil rights" issue, the libertarians on here almost all mocked and said thats nonsense. Gay marriage is an issue between consenting adults. Pedophilia involves sex with children. Children, who by definition, cannot give consent to acts they aren't mature enough to understand. They're not even remotely the same issue. One does not logically follow the other because the one doesn't have anything to do with the other. Unless you assume that homosexual is synonymous with pedophile. Which I don't. Don't think legally, but morally. You have groups pushing to allow children to make choices about their bodies (abortion, gender change etc) before 18. Why is it any different that these same, or similar groups wouldn't be pushing to lower the age of consent? (I do find it fucking ironic that the legal smoking age is 18 - 20, and the legal drinking age is 21. But that is a topic for another time) |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:12:11 PM EDT
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And every heterosexual man would do little girls if he could get away with it, right? Some really do like the same sex as adults. How can I or anyone cast a stone at them when we have our own issues and major faults. Some of the biggest Predators I've ever seen come from the Church. Regardless what adults do in the bedroom is their choice and none of anyone's business what they do. If they're not picking from your pockets then stfu. Government should be out of marriage in the first place. This is coming from someone who believes Christ is the lord and savior. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:14:35 PM EDT
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careful this is arfcom you'll be burned at the stake for such talk 
didn't spartans enjoy boy love, we know how much arfcom idiolizes sparta, molon labe i'm i right 
edit: wow i'm in, your comment created much feelz already, kind of goes along with the normalization theory i'd say you're right on the mark @HenrySS except not so much children as very young pubescent boys (still legally children) makes me want to vomit  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every single last homosexual man would do children if he thought he could get away with it. The aim of the homosexual agenda has always been to legalize sex with children. This is another step towards that goal.
didn't spartans enjoy boy love, we know how much arfcom idiolizes sparta, molon labe i'm i right
edit: wow i'm in, your comment created much feelz already, kind of goes along with the normalization theory i'd say you're right on the mark @HenrySS except not so much children as very young pubescent boys (still legally children) makes me want to vomit 
This place is being over run by lunatics. Usual suspects right? Pathetic right? |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:24:30 PM EDT
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It's only a matter of time before everyone accepts it. At one point, being gay was completely unacceptable, now no one has a problem with it, in fact, if you have a problem with it, then society has a problem with you. It is only a matter of time until you're a racist, sexist, bigot because you don't allow your kid to date a 40 year old man. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:39:07 PM EDT
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The difference with the normalization of homosexuality, and why it won't happen the same way with pedophilia, is that there is demonstrable harm from pedophilia and legitimate concerns why it should not be allowed. The only argument against homosexuality is that God says it's icky. As time goes on people might not let on ancient book dictate how they and others should live their lives, but the physical and mental harm of sexual contact is something that isn't just going to go away.
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:41:44 PM EDT
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Saw this coming years ago as homosexuality was gradually accepted, if you approve of homosexuality you have to approve of pedophilia, beasteilety, and other perverted behavior.
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:53:32 PM EDT
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The difference with the normalization of homosexuality, and why it won't happen the same way with pedophilia, is that there is demonstrable harm from pedophilia and legitimate concerns why it should not be allowed. The only argument against homosexuality is that God says it's icky. As time goes on people might not let on ancient book dictate how they and others should live their lives, but the physical and mental harm of sexual contact is something that isn't just going to go away. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:56:29 PM EDT
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Every single last homosexual man would do children if he thought he could get away with it. The aim of the homosexual agenda has always been to legalize sex with children. This is another step towards that goal. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:15:17 PM EDT
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Cite? And when scientists say it isnt bad then Naturally you will be ok with it? We are after all guided by science and not bible.thumping morality. No fucking theocracy is america amirite? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The difference with the normalization of homosexuality, and why it won't happen the same way with pedophilia, is that there is demonstrable harm from pedophilia and legitimate concerns why it should not be allowed. The only argument against homosexuality is that God says it's icky. As time goes on people might not let on ancient book dictate how they and others should live their lives, but the physical and mental harm of sexual contact is something that isn't just going to go away. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:17:58 PM EDT
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At least now I know what you really think of me. You're mistaken, but at least you're being honest in your mistakes. All I can really say is "No, I won't. Here's why." Which is what I've done. You can either believe me when I say that my opinion of pedophilia won't change in 10 years. Or you can disbelieve me, because Barack Obama's opinion about something changed from 2008 to present. You tell me which is more reasonable. Or better yet, tell yourself. I think I've heard enough from a cola "bro" for one week. Age of consent laws are simply an arbitrary moral judgement. We now have, thanks to 5 SCOTUS judges, a constitutional right to "dignity" It will take a few years, but there will be "settled science" proving that pedophilia isn't harmful to children and there will be a push for a case that the SCOTUS will rule upon. Once you deny the right of the people to set moral standards for their community, you must accept the inevitable decent into immorality. After all, morality is simply the tyranny of theocracy. Whether you agree or not with the theocrats doesn't matter anymore. Just a few activist judges will set the morality for our nation. as a libertarian, you either accept this reality or you reject libertarianism. There is no "little bit pregnant" here. You want to impose your morality on others "for the children" suddenly? Don't be upset because I have exposed the inevitable end state of the libertarian philosophy. its why I rejected libertarianism in my early 20s. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:19:06 PM EDT
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Are you asking for a cite that children who are molested are damaged from it? And if I provide a cite saying its harmless, then we must agree to let freedom ring, amirite? Or are you going to impose your morality "for the children?" statist. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:25:39 PM EDT
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Every single last homosexual man would do children if he thought he could get away with it. The aim of the homosexual agenda has always been to legalize sex with children. This is another step towards that goal. 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:28:33 PM EDT
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For all those claiming this won't happen because kids can't consent, just look at the current push to legitimize kids being able to consent or have the ability to choose their own gender. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:32:50 PM EDT
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Saw this coming years ago as homosexuality was gradually accepted, if you approve of homosexuality you have to approve of pedophilia, beasteilety, and other perverted behavior. 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:33:41 PM EDT
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Yes. And if I provide a cite saying its harmless, then we must agree to let freedom ring, amirite? Or are you going to impose your morality "for the children?" statist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you asking for a cite that children who are molested are damaged from it? And if I provide a cite saying its harmless, then we must agree to let freedom ring, amirite? Or are you going to impose your morality "for the children?" statist. The only thing this has to do with morality is the simple belief that hurting others is wrong. Simple. Child molestation hurts, it's wrong, it should be illegal. The view of libertarians is simple: if you do something that victimizes someone, it should be a crime (child molestation) if there isn't a victim, there isn't a crime (homosexuality). It's not that hard to grasp, however somehow I think you will fail to grasp it anyway and come back with a nonsensical "statist" quip. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:35:17 PM EDT
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Its intellectually consistent. Age of consent laws are simply an arbitrary moral judgement. We now have, thanks to 5 SCOTUS judges, a constitutional right to "dignity" It will take a few years, but there will be "settled science" proving that pedophilia isn't harmful to children and there will be a push for a case that the SCOTUS will rule upon. Once you deny the right of the people to set moral standards for their community, you must accept the inevitable decent into immorality. After all, morality is simply the tyranny of theocracy. Whether you agree or not with the theocrats doesn't matter anymore. Just a few activist judges will set the morality for our nation. as a libertarian, you either accept this reality or you reject libertarianism. There is no "little bit pregnant" here. You want to impose your morality on others "for the children" suddenly? Don't be upset because I have exposed the inevitable end state of the libertarian philosophy. its why I rejected libertarianism in my early 20s. My opinion on what is and is not moral has nothing to do with what the majority thinks about morality. You don't need to make a bunch of assumptions about what I "must accept" based on what you assume I believe. I'll tell you straight out what my moral code is on the subject. Hell, I already did. Sex with children is wrong because it forces children into an act with enormous life consequences they don't have the mental wherewithal to consent to. That's my moral code. But by all means, how much would you like to bet me that I'm going to support pedophilia in 10 years because of some boxed in philosophy you assume I ascribe to that fits neatly within the definitions you've imagined for it? How's $10,000 sound? |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:44:16 PM EDT
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your opinion on the morality or righteousness of a behavior must be subordinate to the unwavering principle of maximum individual freedom.
Or have we finally crossed a line of immorality where the principle of freedom must be subjugated for the sake of the "children"? Why do you hate love? |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:50:56 PM EDT
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your opinion on the morality or righteousness of a behavior must be subordinate to the unwavering principle of maximum individual freedom. Or have we finally crossed a line of immorality where the principle of freedom must be subjugated for the sake of the "children"? Why do you hate love? |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:54:05 PM EDT
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NAMBLA in the house?
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:10:17 PM EDT
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Cite? And when scientists say it isnt bad then Naturally you will be ok with it? We are after all guided by science and not bible.thumping morality. No fucking theocracy is america amirite? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The difference with the normalization of homosexuality, and why it won't happen the same way with pedophilia, is that there is demonstrable harm from pedophilia and legitimate concerns why it should not be allowed. The only argument against homosexuality is that God says it's icky. As time goes on people might not let on ancient book dictate how they and others should live their lives, but the physical and mental harm of sexual contact is something that isn't just going to go away. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:17:28 PM EDT
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Think whatever sick shit you want to think.
Touch my kid and you die. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:18:51 PM EDT
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Homosexuality was a mental disorder until the 60s. Transgenderism until quite recently. And global.warming is settled science. Science will adjust as required by politics as it always has. The entire muslim world.practices pedophilia. Where is this irreperable harm you speak of?
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:25:24 PM EDT
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Homosexuality was a mental disorder until the 60s. Transgenderism until quite recently. And global.warming is settled science. Science will adjust as required by politics as it always has. The entire muslim world.practices pedophilia. Where is this irreperable harm you speak of? You know, I'm fairly certain you're a pretty smart dude. I gotta say though, you hide it REAL well sometimes. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:26:47 PM EDT
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I kind of agree with their assumption but technically they are not a pedophiles if they have never acted on those desires in anyway. Although that thought process should not be considered normal. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:29:55 PM EDT
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Let get this right.
So by saying pedophilia is a mental illness, you're saying that pedophilia is becoming normal? Despite the fact that mental illness is abnormal. Wouldn't it NOT being a mental illness make it more normal? I'm not entirely sure I understand the outrage over this distinction. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:29:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:33:09 PM EDT
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Every single last homosexual man would do children if he thought he could get away with it. The aim of the homosexual agenda has always been to legalize sex with children. This is another step towards that goal. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:45:05 PM EDT
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Every single last homosexual man would do children if he thought he could get away with it. The aim of the homosexual agenda has always been to legalize sex with children. This is another step towards that goal. |
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