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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:09:16 PM EDT
[#1]
NO
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:09:40 PM EDT
[#2]
apparently everyone else can have a heritage.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:10:55 PM EDT
[#3]
I feel deep ambivalence.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:11:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No. Learn from history, or repeat it. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:12:23 PM EDT
[#5]
No.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:13:00 PM EDT
[#6]
No, because history.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:13:46 PM EDT
[#7]
damnatio memoriae
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:23:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Our Civil War wasn't fought over slavery. It just wasn't, I don't give a damn what your history book said. It was started and fought for nearly two years to prevent the South from leaving the union. They added the abolitionist war goal well after the fighting had begun. The South didn't go to war to keep slavery. They went to war because they didn't want to be a part of the US anymore. Yes, part of that was related to the ownership of slaves; but there were many factors and the argument that it was all about hatred and slavery is just straight up false. It was WAY more complicated than that.
If history had happened the way they taught us in schools, then yeah, maybe they should be removed. Unfortunately the mantra of 'The Civil War was fought over slavery... The Civil War was fought over slavery.... The Civil War was fought over slavery...' has been repeated to the point where it's societal fact; historical facts be damned. So in their mind, they're probably right to take those down. By the way, if you want everyone you know to call you a racist and unfriend you on Facebook, all you have to do is point that out. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:24:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Sounds to much like 1984.
Erasing history does not change anything. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ” George Santayana, Life of Reason, Reason in Common Sense, Scribner's, 1905, page 284 |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:24:53 PM EDT
[#10]
The civil war was not just about slavery. This from a born northerner.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:25:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Now, look at this poll..
94% say no, not unusual in this forum and this type of question. What would happen if we banned Muslim books from schools? Ban transgender from restrooms totally? Illegal aliens, from getting Obama benefits? Start a TV channel WET? Why are we letting these POS OT's ruin our country, change our laws to better suit they're agendas. Why do I have to attend a mandatory transgender awareness class, so I don't offend them? 
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:28:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Our Civil War wasn't fought over slavery. It just wasn't, I don't give a damn what your history book said. I can google them and leave you links if your internet is broken. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:29:26 PM EDT
[#13]
I think ISIS tries to remove history as well
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:29:35 PM EDT
[#14]
I hate it!
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:30:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Pathetic. 
Is that on private property??  . At this point it has quite a bit of symbolic value just in it's presence alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin,_Seattle |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:30:24 PM EDT
[#16]
Yes.
The United States didn't become the greatest nation on earth by celebrating losers. I thought we were against the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality. 
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:32:33 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
is that Stalin Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lets get rid of this one first. https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/54051475/3739626257_e9888fd184_b.0.0.jpg 
Lenin. Know your enemy. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:32:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You should go read the secession declarations from each state that left the union. It might change your sentiment. I can google them and leave you links if your internet is broken. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Our Civil War wasn't fought over slavery. It just wasn't, I don't give a damn what your history book said. I can google them and leave you links if your internet is broken. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:34:15 PM EDT
[#19]
If I lost the Civil War like the south did, I wouldn't want any monuments to remind me.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:36:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Whatever side you are on or feel compassion for, its part of our history. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:37:30 PM EDT
[#21]
money played as big a role in the civil war as it does in politics and war today.
If they had only agreed to let the north tax slaves what would have changed? |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:40:03 PM EDT
[#22]
I see 23 ruh-tards have voted in this thread as of now
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:41:27 PM EDT
[#23]
No its history of our nation
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:46:10 PM EDT
[#24]
It might go that way, "first they came for the Confederate monuments"....Niemoller style
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:49:10 PM EDT
[#25]
There are lots of monuments I'd like to have removed but I tolerate them because well, America.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:49:13 PM EDT
[#26]
Liberals love re-writing history to fit their needs.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:55:09 PM EDT
[#27]
A big hell no here
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:56:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Nope. It's history, regardless.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:56:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Whatever side you are on or feel compassion for, its part of our history. face it, remember it and own it. one way or the other. personally? there were brave men and woman, great leaders, truly committed individuals. If we all get bent about the mistreatment of our ancestors, where does it end? Ive been known to get bent about the Irish treatment by the Crown. But not really... |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:57:05 PM EDT
[#30]
The removal of history serves one purpose, the rewriting of it....
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:58:33 PM EDT
[#31]
No,
make no mistake, this push is nothing more than an attempt to whitewash the democrat party of the monuments to their failed attempt to devide the country. Nothing more |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:58:44 PM EDT
[#32]
The message is"get in the closet" to those who refuse to condemn.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:09:24 PM EDT
[#33]
ISIS/L does this so now the NAACP can too?
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:10:45 PM EDT
[#34]
No. It's not like these are part of something like an official state flag and causes fear and consternation of minorities and SJWs. These are period pieces, pieces of history, and should be seen in their context.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:12:32 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No. It's not like these are part of something like an official state flag |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:13:11 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Private owner, public property. That statue has quite some history to it, particularly with it's time in Seattle. You can buy it for 250k and move it to a place of your pleasing . At this point it has quite a bit of symbolic value just in it's presence alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin,_Seattle |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:19:35 PM EDT
[#37]
fuck No..
Even though its a shitty part of our history, its a major part of it. This yankee says keep them! |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:22:36 PM EDT
[#38]
To me, this is akin to muslim invaders knocking down religious temples in every country they conquer and build a mosque on top.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:23:15 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Rise up??No one is doing shit while they are removing monuments. Didn't Florida dig up Forrest and his wife a few years back?And get rid of his statue? And of course the whole shitstorm over the flag. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:32:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Absolutely not. History should never be revised, sanitized, or erased--for any reason--and especially not for SJW butthurt.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:41:03 PM EDT
[#41]
I think it's funny here in South Carolina the Confederate flag was taken down but nobody has a problem with the SLAVE MARKET being right down town Charleston.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:49:21 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I might be wrong but I think that was Tennessee , Memphis Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rise up??No one is doing shit while they are removing monuments. Didn't Florida dig up Forrest and his wife a few years back?And get rid of his statue? And of course the whole shitstorm over the flag. It'll be interesting to see what gets built on the sites after the monuments are removed and to whose hands all the money for the properties and development goes through. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:51:26 PM EDT
[#43]
They pulled this shit on Confederate Memorial Day
Fuckin' assholes |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:57:13 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You should go read the secession declarations from each state that left the union. It might change your sentiment. I can google them and leave you links if your internet is broken. I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:58:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
No NWoA battles were fought in New Hampshire because you were/are unwothy, suh.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Absolutely. I've always supported the removal of Confederate monuments from New Hampshire.
The liberals' ignorance on this topic, as already noted, is amazing. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:58:43 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yep.. and it all died out when the fact that the property he's buried on goes back to the family if he and his wife are moved. Our former kiddie diddling CFO (whom just so happened to be the former mayors real estate guy) had dreams of making the park NBF is buried in a parking lot for the community college. It'll be interesting to see what gets built on the sites after the monuments are removed and to whose hands all the money for the properties and development goes through. You're right-it did fade out of the news rather quickly. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:59:36 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
FUCK NO. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 5:02:02 PM EDT
[#48]
NO
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Posted: 4/24/2017 5:04:02 PM EDT
[#49]
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Interested to see what Arfcom thinks. In some of the threads with the news about removal it seems some support it. I think this is the American Taliban in action. Cultural vandals. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 5:09:49 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
There was a film crew in New Orleans asking hundreds of local high school students how they felt about the monuments about a year ago. The majority of the HS students they interviewed had no idea who was on the monuments and many couldn't even explain what role Robert E. Lee played in the Civil War. |
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