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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:13:14 PM EDT
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Learn how to punch and it will have the same effect without the complexity, cost or bad optics. 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:13:33 PM EDT
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Learn how to punch and it will have the same effect without the complexity, cost or bad optics. 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:15:31 PM EDT
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More dual use, if people were so inclined. Plastic can be easily melted down and fashioned into piercing implements on site, then discarded. Melting plastic and reshaping? Or am I just missing the sarcasm. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:18:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:21:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThey retain the right to speak freely. In fact, I encourage it. The more they talk and fly their communist flags the more normies get red pilled. Its only when they seek to stop us from speaking do we get peloponnesian on their ass. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:24:33 PM EDT
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And I argue to let them have their communist holidays. They retain the right to speak freely. In fact, I encourage it. The more they talk and fly their communist flags the more normies get red pilled. Its only when they seek to stop us from speaking do we get peloponnesian on their ass. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:30:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:39:06 PM EDT
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And I argue to let them have their communist holidays. They retain the right to speak freely. In fact, I encourage it. The more they talk and fly their communist flags the more normies get red pilled. Its only when they seek to stop us from speaking do we get peloponnesian on their ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
And I argue to let them have their communist holidays. They retain the right to speak freely. In fact, I encourage it. The more they talk and fly their communist flags the more normies get red pilled. Its only when they seek to stop us from speaking do we get peloponnesian on their ass. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:40:22 PM EDT
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So what is our slant on this? I am perfectly willing to let them have their say. If you think about it, the Antifa riot was on our ground because the scheduled event was ours. The ensuing riot, though it went center stage, was secondary to our event. If we directly engage them at their event then we become the aggressors and are are more easily prosecutable. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:43:20 PM EDT
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The IRA were commies deserving of every bullet sent after them. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:44:29 PM EDT
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I'm just getting into this great thread. Thank you Sylvan. Anyhow just a thought on those gauntlet gloves. What are thoughts on re engineering a dog shock collar or a taser into a pair of those gloves so the contacts would be in the finger tips and the battery packs located in the cuffs? 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:48:34 PM EDT
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Can we get back on track with sylvans light/heavy infantry tactics and just ignore the normies while they attempt to troll from their couch?
I liek his view of tactics and history knowledge |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:52:18 PM EDT
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The IRA were commies deserving of every bullet sent after them. For example: the skinheads on our side of the line will seriously project poorly for us when presented by the media. Though they may align with us on the slightest sliver of logic, they are more fully politically aligned with Antifa. Our entire cause can easily wind up being branded as merely racist in nature (the broad brush is already heavy at work). The fact that Antifa is homegrown and that the skinheads have a foreign (German) slant puts us in a far more tenuous position than the Irish. Watch carefully for the skinheads. I fear that we have two separate bands of socialists battling each other for dominion over us. They are not our brothers. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:53:12 PM EDT
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Antifa HQ in Denmark throwing water balloons filled with piss at people just passing by.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2d0_1493112277 Yeah, the US has to nip this shit in the bud. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:56:50 PM EDT
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TO sum up. You first and foremost needs ranks of those who will stand shoulder to shoulder and hold the ground required for the speaker to be safe and to be heard.
You will need 2-3 teams of door kickers of about 6 guys each willing to punch through and snatch any antifa fucks with weapons and/or key leaders and have the ability to drag them back into the lines. This will require coordination and running passwords. It is essential that atifags learn that bring a weapon means bringing a world of hurt onto yourself. Professor U lock should fear for his very existence. Finally, if enough are there, you need guys willing to chase down and snatch flags/bandannas/gauges after the antifags break and run. While your hoplites can do this you run the risk of the phalanx breaking down and being subjected to antifag peltasts. At all times take every opportunity to demask, record and doxx all antifags. souvenir taking is recommended to inspire aggressive, offensive spirit among the righteous. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:02:20 PM EDT
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Learn how to punch and it will have the same effect without the complexity, cost or bad optics. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:03:12 PM EDT
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Check this shit out.......the Left is indeed trying to up their ground game and must have sack loads coming in on donations to be hiring full time positions like these https://kansascity.craigslist.org/npo/6073678717.html $360 to $535 per week https://kansascity.craigslist.org/npo/6085274984.html  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cPhax9G1Gw |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:03:32 PM EDT
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and people forget that gloves protect the hands much more than they protect the target. virtually all the energy still gets transferred even with pillowy gloves--hockey gloves would be almost ideal. There is a reason hockey players drop gloves when they fight. Taping your wrist and fingers and putting a light leather glove over them is much better. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:03:50 PM EDT
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lol. Yeah, I dont see antifa getting very far in the Panhandle. Maybe create an EAL, paint a redline somewhere and challenge anyone that gets close? |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:07:02 PM EDT
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And I argue to let them have their communist holidays. They retain the right to speak freely. In fact, I encourage it. The more they talk and fly their communist flags the more normies get red pilled. Its only when they seek to stop us from speaking do we get peloponnesian on their ass. It needs to be clear which side wants free speech. IDGAF what they think or say, and in fact I think it exposes the crazy. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:08:30 PM EDT
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No. There is a reason hockey players drop gloves when they fight. Taping your wrist and fingers and putting a light leather glove over them is much better. the appearance of a defensive posture is important, and maintaining that is worth a small decrease in offensive capability. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:14:18 PM EDT
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and people forget that gloves protect the hands much more than they protect the target. virtually all the energy still gets transferred even with pillowy gloves--hockey gloves would be almost ideal. The glove protects the hand. I believe it reduces the surface damage the person on the other end receives, but not the aspect of the blow that produces a knock out. You spin the head with a jaw strike just the same. But you are less likely to knock out a tooth. Of course this is with respect to ring/cage gloves, you could devise gloves that increase the surface damage on the opponent. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:14:33 PM EDT
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I hope we are not teaching people to fight with closed fists. A well struck jab with the palm delivers a potent blow of energy from the Radius and the Ulna with very little energy lost to the padding of the palm - all without the risk of broken fingers, broken Metacarpals and broken wrists. "Fistfighting" is OK for mano-a-mano fighting. Many of these are likely to be protracted engagements and you will not want to be fighting the bulk of the time with a broken hand.
I find it interesting that here on a firearms related site that we are going so down to the base core on account of prosecutorial bias. This level of pragmatism must be maintained. I salute the OP for keeping this thread on the rails. The Joe Biden "Shoot them through the door" approach will only land all of us in prison. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:15:47 PM EDT
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did you suddenly forget about the optics point that you yourself made in previous posts? the appearance of a defensive posture is important, and maintaining that is worth a small decrease in offensive capability. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. There is a reason hockey players drop gloves when they fight. Taping your wrist and fingers and putting a light leather glove over them is much better. the appearance of a defensive posture is important, and maintaining that is worth a small decrease in offensive capability. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:22:15 PM EDT
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did you suddenly forget about the optics point that you yourself made in previous posts? the appearance of a defensive posture is important, and maintaining that is worth a small decrease in offensive capability. I say you have to assume you will be punching people. Having broken my hand punching things I shouldn't, I like a nice tape job. plus its berkley. who the fuck has hockey gloves. I guess amazon. We should brawl and see how they work out. Catcher equipment with the knee/shin guards, chest protector and hockey pants would be good front line armor. Being hoplites was always expensive and reserved for the citizens who could afford the armor. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:23:18 PM EDT
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Which IRA? There were three distinct groups calling themselves that at various points in time. The British were not exactly polite guests in Ireland when the first IRA came along. The UK created them through acts of brutality and oppression. The Provos who came later were commie scum and the latest incarnation the so called True IRA are nothing but criminals and terrorists. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:25:11 PM EDT
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I hope we are not teaching people to fight with closed fists. A well struck jab with the palm delivers a potent blow of energy from the Radius and the Ulna with very little energy lost to the padding of the palm - all without the risk of broken fingers, broken Metacarpals and broken wrists. "Fistfighting" is OK for mano-a-mano fighting. Many of these are likely to be protracted engagements and you will not want to be fighting the bulk of the time with a broken hand. I find it interesting that here on a firearms related site that we are going so down to the base core on account of prosecutorial bias. This level of pragmatism must be maintained. I salute the OP for keeping this thread on the rails. The Joe Biden "Shoot them through the door" approach will only land all of us in prison. To the latter point, we win this fight so it doesn't come to shooting later. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:29:35 PM EDT
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Can anyone confirm this as what the various bandannas mean?
Red = willing to break law/violent. Yellow = there to pull people into their ranks and provide cover for/hide Red. Green = Normies who show up to support without knowing the tactics |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:32:57 PM EDT
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hockey gloves I would argue present bad optics. Simply wearing leather gloves are more effective, allow more dexterity for the hands, protect the hands much better when taped. Hockey gloves are designed to let you grip a hockey stick and protect your hands. If you want to be grabbig stuff (like bandannas) hockey gloves aren't going to work well. I say you have to assume you will be punching people. Having broken my hand punching things I shouldn't, I like a nice tape job. plus its berkley. who the fuck has hockey gloves. I guess amazon. We should brawl and see how they work out. Catcher equipment with the knee/shin guards, chest protector and hockey pants would be good front line armor. Being hoplites was always expensive and reserved for the citizens who could afford the armor. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:33:51 PM EDT
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Use of gloves in MMA was started by fighters who wanted to punch. The boxer in UFC 1 wore one glove. By about UFC 5 grappling gloves were being brought in by some fighters. The glove protects the hand. I believe it reduces the surface damage the person on the other end receives, but not the aspect of the blow that produces a knock out. You spin the head with a jaw strike just the same. But you are less likely to knock out a tooth. Of course this is with respect to ring/cage gloves, you could devise gloves that increase the surface damage on the opponent. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:36:05 PM EDT
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On the issue of gloves, what about traditional muay thai rope handwraps? for the straight up melee guys
with the knots of course. 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:36:50 PM EDT
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The British conquered the Irish, and successfully ruled them for generations, and due to Ireland's inclusion in the empire their standard of living was much better than it would have been on their own. Much like the native savages of North America, the Irish should be thankful that the British conquered them. Much like Arab's, they met the gift of civilization and rule of law violence and disorder. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:38:37 PM EDT
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hockey gloves I would argue present bad optics. Simply wearing leather gloves are more effective, allow more dexterity for the hands, protect the hands much better when taped. Hockey gloves are designed to let you grip a hockey stick and protect your hands. If you want to be grabbig stuff (like bandannas) hockey gloves aren't going to work well. I say you have to assume you will be punching people. Having broken my hand punching things I shouldn't, I like a nice tape job. plus its berkley. who the fuck has hockey gloves. I guess amazon. We should brawl and see how they work out. Catcher equipment with the knee/shin guards, chest protector and hockey pants would be good front line armor. Being hoplites was always expensive and reserved for the citizens who could afford the armor. "but officer/lyour honor, these are purely defensive. there's a reason hockey players get rid of them when they want to hurt each other." to my mind, a visible tape job and leather gloves would speak to aggressive intent. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:42:19 PM EDT
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On the issue of gloves, what about traditional muay thai rope handwraps? for the straight up melee guys with the knots of course. https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1280/1369836886_1563a8d6de_b.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/19/80/d4/1980d4ada8a9d25f4cf9eac665513751.jpg I, personally, do not like the lack of grip associated with such an arrangement nor the time required to doff. There are far fewer rules in these engagements than there are in the ring and I would want to keep full use of my grip... but, for some, I think this is a good option. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:42:33 PM EDT
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I doubt there will be much antifa activity in Florida north of Gainesville. They'd be fine in Palm/Broward/Dade but that stuff wouldn't play well in North Florida. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol. Yeah, I dont see antifa getting very far in the Panhandle. Maybe create an EAL, paint a redline somewhere and challenge anyone that gets close? Control water flow..watch em pass out
I'd don't see them protesting much in my AO... |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:45:03 PM EDT
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I would probably go with something like this:
http://www.mechanix.com/cut-resistant/m-pact-cr5a3 Knuckle/finger protection, cut-resistant, good dexterity... |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:56:15 PM EDT
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Posters in this thread have been physically attacked by Antifa? IN FACT, I HAVE 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:04:48 PM EDT
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On the issue of gloves, what about traditional muay thai rope handwraps? for the straight up melee guys with the knots of course. https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1280/1369836886_1563a8d6de_b.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/19/80/d4/1980d4ada8a9d25f4cf9eac665513751.jpg If someone really promises to do that I'll send them a couple hundred feet of 7/32" cotton hard twist 3 strand. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:06:34 PM EDT
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TO sum up. You first and foremost needs ranks of those who will stand shoulder to shoulder and hold the ground required for the speaker to be safe and to be heard. You will need 2-3 teams of door kickers of about 6 guys each willing to punch through and snatch any antifa fucks with weapons and/or key leaders and have the ability to drag them back into the lines. This will require coordination and running passwords. It is essential that atifags learn that bring a weapon means bringing a world of hurt onto yourself. Professor U lock should fear for his very existence. Finally, if enough are there, you need guys willing to chase down and snatch flags/bandannas/gauges after the antifags break and run. While your hoplites can do this you run the risk of the phalanx breaking down and being subjected to antifag peltasts. At all times take every opportunity to demask, record and doxx all antifags. souvenir taking is recommended to inspire aggressive, offensive spirit among the righteous. I want to stick rhe bandanas on the shield like trophy scalps. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:06:37 PM EDT
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IF we're talking receiving incoming M-80s, etc. IN FACT, I HAVE
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Posters in this thread have been physically attacked by Antifa? IN FACT, I HAVE
https://uccatholics.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/campanile.jpg It's what we
Roman candles are a real crowd breaker 
Hope you made it out without any serious injuries. Stay safe |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:07:13 PM EDT
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This thread needs more Corinthian war dogs. When they break and run, let slip the dogs...
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:09:11 PM EDT
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Rodeo vest might be an option-some of them aren't much more expensive than baseball chest protectors.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileCheap, maintains movement, can be worn under a hoodie and pants to conceal. I'd also add an athletic cup and some good steel toes and eye protection. ETA: I would also keep a cheap camera. When the cops come is to start arresting people remove gloves and walk around like you're documenting shit for your blog. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:15:55 PM EDT
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I actually think the use of sporting good equipment makes good sense from a PR standpoint. Grown men in sports gear may look a little goofy, but it portrays "Normal guy, just grabbed what he could." It's not a uniform, which the Antifa getup definitely is.
Lacrosse gear is pretty good for upper body - it's made assuming the wearer is going to be hit by sticks every so often. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:17:40 PM EDT
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M-80s are fun but if you really want to start some shit, smuggle some 2"mortar shells (fireworks) in and throw them in their midst It's what we
Roman candles are a real crowd breaker
Hope you made it out without any serious injuries. Stay safe I was fine, I started ignoring the M-80s after about the 2nd or 3rd one, even if they landed near me. I had no injuries of any kind that day. To be fair, I never "went on the front line" other than to snap pictures and besides walking inside the antifa line about 2 or 3 times and snapping a couple quick photos which I posted here in GD. I mostly positioned myself between the free speech rally speakers and 'the front line' that everyone has seen on Youtube or the news with the garbage can tug of war, etc. This next event I think I'll be more aggressive about photographing for Meme/intel/etc. rather than waiting for some big never before seen event to unfold or just documenting the damage done to the city (which is what I did when Milo came to Berkeley) |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:20:25 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427882/IMG-1217-195264.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427882/IMG-1218-195265.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427882/IMG-1219-195266.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427882/IMG-1220-195267.JPG Cheap, maintains movement, can be worn under a hoodie and pants to conceal. I'd also add an athletic cup and some good steel toes and eye protection. I was mainly thinking of going with motorcycle gear so I don't stand out but considering .mil with the threats of guns 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:27:18 PM EDT
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I like your suggestions - eye choice would be key though since Based Stickman got taken out of the fight a few times wearing regular ski goggles I was mainly thinking of going with motorcycle gear so I don't stand out but considering .mil with the threats of guns https://www.revzilla.com/product_images/0127/2134/dainese_racing_d1_perforated_leather_jacket.jpg |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:32:20 PM EDT
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Did we ever figure out who was gonna play Alcibiades?
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:35:16 PM EDT
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Cheap gas masks can be had but would be cumbersome and make you stand out more. 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:40:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThere's a few viable options but I would not want to stand out. Blend in, sneak your jabs in and fade back into the crowd. Keep it cheap and disposable so it can be ditched when the need arises.
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Posted: 4/25/2017 5:58:38 PM EDT
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How about the newer swoopier industrial face shields? http://www.honeywellsafety.com/assets/0/324/774/777/e96c414c-7550-4404-aaa7-36528dd9a0f2.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cheap gas masks can be had but would be cumbersome and make you stand out more. http://www.honeywellsafety.com/assets/0/324/774/777/e96c414c-7550-4404-aaa7-36528dd9a0f2.jpg |
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