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Link Posted: 4/23/2017 9:49:47 AM EDT
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I blame Herb Kelleher and his cheap fares.  Flying used to be different than taking the bus.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 9:50:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2017 9:52:58 AM EDT
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“This is Trumps fault”

Mad as a wet hen. Created all that drama looking for a check. When you reward bad behavior you get more of it.
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This.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 9:56:42 AM EDT
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I'd volunteer to remove her.

I was once removed from a plane.  Funny, I simply stood up and walked off. No drama, no press, no video.  Airline was trying to get us home after a screwed up cancellation.  Never, ever fly using a free or cheap companion ticket. You're basically flying space available.
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And I'd be right there with you. Get a few guys sick of the bullshit and they'll physically remove her.

What's she gonna do? Call the police?
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 9:59:20 AM EDT
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If the crew can't do it they shouldn't punish passengers for taking the law into their own hands and screaming "Let's Roll" while tossing that crazy obnoxious bitch out an airlock.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:01:28 AM EDT
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Listen to the loud-mouth, vulgar, attention-whore for 30 seconds and you know what the problem is. I'd want her off my plane too.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:01:58 AM EDT
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Disorderly conduct statute doesn't read differently just because your backside is sitting on a plane
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Wrong.  Sitting in a seat on the plane, any seat, heck just being on the plane seat or not, is like making into your driveway while DUI and being chased by the police - home free, those are the rules, read it somewhere on the internet.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:02:27 AM EDT
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If a person cannot see the difference in the two incidences, they're blind and deaf, delusional, or all of the above, and there's no sense in trying to explain it to them.
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It's a little weird that some here are saying this incident is because of TSA and this particular flight being oversold. Is reading really that hard?
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:04:35 AM EDT
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Ahh, the ghetto culture.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:06:16 AM EDT
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So if you were sitting next to your wife on a plane and told for no reason to get off you would?
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So if you were sitting next to your wife on a plane and told for no reason to get off you would?
1) The doctor's wife got off the plane without having to be carried by police. She behaved like a human. You missed that part.

His wife, Dr. Teresa Dao, was sitting a row back and across the aisle, according to Griffin Cummings. She followed her husband off the plane, but came back to grab their carry-on luggage — “not crying, but definitely shook up.”
2) Yes, I would. I don't want to got to jail over something stupid.

49 U.S. Code § 46504 - Interference with flight crew members and attendants
It's amazing that some one would ignore a police order and a possible federal offense charge but I guess that's what jails are for.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:06:28 AM EDT
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Just wait till some person sits down in a window seat or First Class seat that they did not pay for and refuse to move.

Since you liberals won't accept commands to move; all passengers must deplane because of one disruptive asshole.

This will cause massive future delays because you liberals have taught people have the right to refuse to listen to aircrew and police on a plane.
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Already happened with the honeymoon couple a week or two ago.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:06:31 AM EDT
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So if you were sitting next to your wife on a plane and told for no reason to get off you would?
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You're focusing on the wrong point.

No it would not be right for you to be told to get off in that scenario.

You should not be forcibly removed.

The problem is that a Cop who is told to remove the looney tune running her mouth - will be hesitant to remove said looney tune for fear of the video of the incident making it appear that he was removing a black woman for no reason.

No one is saying that the police should be able to rip people off the plane for no reason.

What's being said is that the fact that there was extreme backlash against pulling someone off the plane (regardless of whether it was right or not) will make police think twice about removing people in the future, whether justified or not in doing so.

That's the problem......that when you have the crazy person the cop will be afraid of getting crucified and losing his job.  So the rest of the plane will be fucked.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:08:42 AM EDT
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God damn OP........photoshop a bag over her head please!!
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:12:20 AM EDT
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Must be those crazy Jews again, oh wait..
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:15:33 AM EDT
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I bet that proper application of one of the "seatbelt demonstrators" would encourage her to get off the plane quickly.



Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:17:45 AM EDT
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Its funny that absolutely no one is blaming the TSA, FAA, and DHS for this since its their regulations and laws that force airlines to remove people, violently if needed.

And zero blame assigned to the muslims for flying planes into buildings prompting all this in the first place.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:19:12 AM EDT
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Its funny that absolutely no one is blaming the TSA, FAA, and DHS for this since its their regulations and laws that force airlines to remove people, violently if needed.

And zero blame assigned to the muslims for flying planes into buildings prompting all this in the first place.
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Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:23:52 AM EDT
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Its funny that absolutely no one is blaming the TSA, FAA, and DHS for this since its their regulations and laws that force airlines to remove people, violently if needed.

And zero blame assigned to the muslims for flying planes into buildings prompting all this in the first place.
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If you are told to get off the plane by staff for any reason or even no reason, you get off.

It's not your plane. It's their plane. You have no constitutional right to be there.

You only have whatever right was granted you by the contract (ticket) you entered into with the airline.

At the point you refuse lawful order to get off, you are trespassing and trespassers may be legally removed with violence if necessary whether it's from a plane, a business or my property.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:25:13 AM EDT
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My dad leaves for Mexico in a few hours, I'll have to show him this before he gets on the plane.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:26:19 AM EDT
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Somebody should have whooped her ass.  I doubt she would have refused the EMT's hauling her off with a broken nose.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:28:32 AM EDT
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My dad leaves for Mexico in a few hours, I'll have to show him this before he gets on the plane.
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Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:29:38 AM EDT
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1) The doctor's wife got off the plane without having to be carried by police. She behaved like a human. You missed that part.



2) Yes, I would. I don't want to got to jail over something stupid.



It's amazing that some one would ignore a police order and a possible federal offense charge but I guess that's what jails are for.
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She left as her husband was being dragged off, you know this. Are you intentionally trying to avoid facts in an attempt to support your flawed comparison?
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:30:56 AM EDT
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Black women are crazy crazy, why they think they are so special is beyond me.
I see it in restaurants, check out lines. I steer clear of them
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:32:10 AM EDT
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Remember how homely that woman was who got tossed off the plane for berating a Trump voter?

WTF is it with leftie women............it is surreal!!!
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:32:57 AM EDT
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This is the way to get tossed off a plane. Ben Kingsley in his best role.  This is the short clip.

Someone please embed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGCjNn2uJr4
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:34:06 AM EDT
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It's amazing that everyone has an excuse to act like a fucking animal......."Because TRUMP!".

Notice how she also mentions getting a fat check out of it. Drama pays good and there's cameras everywhere. Even if you're wrong.
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This is going to be the nationwide version of the Red Billy Lottery in NYC  simple solution us EXACTLY  what they did.  Cancel the flight make sure everyone knows WHY and Who.  It'll sort itself out
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:36:20 AM EDT
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pos 0bama snowflake
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:37:41 AM EDT
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Black women are crazy crazy, why they think they are so special is beyond me.
I see it in restaurants, check out lines. I steer clear of them
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It's the culture.   Polite is seen as weak.   Violent asshole is seen as strong.  She's posturing.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:39:34 AM EDT
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Ahhhh.... Memories......I only had a couple of months with the claw before it was banned from use.   My Sgt (Chief when I retired ) was a MASTER with it.   He could walk up to a fur ball of 5 or 6 people, and drag out the asshole who started things in seconds.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:40:24 AM EDT
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You certainly have a vivid imagination that's continuing to relate shit that has nothing to do with overselling and how to deal with that self-inflicted wound.
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Just wait till some person sits down in a window seat or First Class seat that they did not pay for and refuse to move.

Since you liberals won't accept commands to move; all passengers must deplane because of one disruptive asshole.

This will cause massive future delays because you liberals have taught people have the right to refuse to listen to aircrew and police on a plane.
You certainly have a vivid imagination that's continuing to relate shit that has nothing to do with overselling and how to deal with that self-inflicted wound.
You certainly have a way of continuing to ignore the facts in a case because they dont suit the your narrative. 
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:42:25 AM EDT
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You certainly have a way of continuing to ignore the facts in a case because they dont suit the your narrative. 
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Just wait till some person sits down in a window seat or First Class seat that they did not pay for and refuse to move.

Since you liberals won't accept commands to move; all passengers must deplane because of one disruptive asshole.

This will cause massive future delays because you liberals have taught people have the right to refuse to listen to aircrew and police on a plane.
You certainly have a vivid imagination that's continuing to relate shit that has nothing to do with overselling and how to deal with that self-inflicted wound.
You certainly have a way of continuing to ignore the facts in a case because they dont suit the your narrative. 
In which case? This one where there's just someone that's mad as a hatter, or the one where United wanted to buy a seat at the last moment on a full plane and chose to pay less than the market rate for them?
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:43:46 AM EDT
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You think the government owns the plane?

What about, "Their business, their rules".

Someone refuses to leave your property after politely requesting they do so, what are you going to do?

You don't own the plane just because you bought a ticket. This is not a socialist utopia where its collective ownership. It's a business. You disrupt other passengers, you get the boot.

Why defend her?
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And here all along I thought that the liberals were the ones that were for increased government power. Turns out it's ballista. Fuck the individual, amirite?
You think the government owns the plane?

What about, "Their business, their rules".

Someone refuses to leave your property after politely requesting they do so, what are you going to do?

You don't own the plane just because you bought a ticket. This is not a socialist utopia where its collective ownership. It's a business. You disrupt other passengers, you get the boot.

Why defend her?
It's only "their business, their rules" when its a baker making a cake for fags. 

You have to understand man, its not about rights on either side. Its all about feelz... People will tie themselves into knots defending shit like this. 
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:43:47 AM EDT
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No doubt!

Show us OP, where the doctor touched you....

You seem very bent out of shape over this....

And the two situations are different....the fucking doctor (whether he was a felon, or mother fucking Theresa has no bearing on this, you seem fixated) bought his ticket, boarded the plane, and then was told he was picked to GTFO.

Under those circumstances I would have been pissed to the max, and made sure everyone knew it...I would have not needed to be physically dragged off, but everyone on that plane, and the crew would know how I felt....this bitch just seemed like a crazy rich and vibrant cunt being rich and vibrant. The police should have got on, and hickory shampooed her until unconsciousness....

I still think the Doc touched you....

Oh, and nice BS with calling anyone who said the Doc had a point a liberal...taking your crib notes from Never Trumpers?
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:44:44 AM EDT
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If the circumstances were the same as the doctors and they told me to leave a seat I paid for when I did nothing wrong. They'd be dragging me also.
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 Newsflash: you don't own that seat and your money can be refunded.  

I actually agree with removing unruly passengers.  No way I want to be locked in to a jet with some crazy entitled asshole at FL300 or higher.  Your snowflake feelings mean jack to me.  My safety and and not having to listen to your crap means far more to me.  
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:45:13 AM EDT
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Maybe she wanted to be beaten (on camera) so she could be the next #BLM star du jour and get sue happy with the "racist" airline/ police
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:45:41 AM EDT
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No doubt!

Show us OP, where the doctor touched you....

You seem very bent out of shape over this....

And the two situations are different....the fucking doctor (whether he was a felon, or mother fucking Theresa has no bearing on this, you seem fixated) bought his ticket, boarded the plane, and then was told he was picked to GTFO.

Under those circumstances I would have been pissed to the max, and made sure everyone knew it...I would have not needed to be physically dragged off, but everyone on that plane, and the crew would know how I felt....this bitch just seemed like a crazy rich and vibrant cunt being rich and vibrant. The police should have got on, and hickory shampooed her until unconsciousness....

I still think the Doc touched you....

Oh, and nice BS with calling anyone who said the Doc had a point a liberal...taking your crib notes from Never Trumpers?
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No doubt!

Show us OP, where the doctor touched you....

You seem very bent out of shape over this....

And the two situations are different....the fucking doctor (whether he was a felon, or mother fucking Theresa has no bearing on this, you seem fixated) bought his ticket, boarded the plane, and then was told he was picked to GTFO.

Under those circumstances I would have been pissed to the max, and made sure everyone knew it...I would have not needed to be physically dragged off, but everyone on that plane, and the crew would know how I felt....this bitch just seemed like a crazy rich and vibrant cunt being rich and vibrant. The police should have got on, and hickory shampooed her until unconsciousness....

I still think the Doc touched you....

Oh, and nice BS with calling anyone who said the Doc had a point a liberal...taking your crib notes from Never Trumpers?
OP is wrong in that the two events are the same.. they are not.

However, I bet the woman  in the OP feels empowered for what has been happening with the airlines however. They are related, just not in the method the OP believes.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:46:29 AM EDT
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Tell her she can walk off under her own power or you can take her up to 10k and drop her ass.
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I defend against a terrible business practice that allows the overselling of seats under government approval.

If an ad hominem is the best you can do to argue against it, you may want to reconsider your position.
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It's almost like the two events aren't related at all.  
1) Both passengers refused air crew and police orders to deplane.
2) In the doctor's case, he was physically removed.
3) In the woman's case, ever fucking passenger was inconvenienced by having to deplane because police are afraid to do their job now.

You have no right to stay on a plane if aircrew or police tell you to get off, period.

Why you defend the felon doctor, I have no idea.
I defend against a terrible business practice that allows the overselling of seats under government approval.

If an ad hominem is the best you can do to argue against it, you may want to reconsider your position.
And again with the overselling. If a made up and completely irrelevant even if true "fact" is the best you can do to argue for it, you may want to reconsider your position. 
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:52:13 AM EDT
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1) Both passengers refused air crew and police orders to deplane.
2) In the doctor's case, he was physically removed.
3) In the woman's case, ever fucking passenger was inconvenienced by having to deplane because police are afraid to do their job now.

You have no right to stay on a plane if aircrew or police tell you to get off, period.

Why you defend the felon doctor, I have no idea.
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Except the woman is being asked to deplane because she did something wrong.  That's the difference you are missing.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:52:28 AM EDT
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Threatening crew, talking about things going down on an airplane, admitting that she's being rude, admitting that she's holding up plane's departure.........gee, bitch deserves to be tossed on the tarmac.
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Physically removed, so to speak.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:54:23 AM EDT
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And again with the overselling. If a made up and completely irrelevant even if true "fact" is the best you can do to argue for it, you may want to reconsider your position. 
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You are correct, it wasn't overbooking, it was them wanting a paying passenger to GTFO against his will to fly their own crew members...still a dumb hill to die on the hill of public opinion when there were much better ways of dealing with it.

Again, the Doc had a point, and was right to be pissed. I think he took it too far, and the crew people were overzealous in demanding he be physically removed...

This piece of shit cunt is just a crazy whore.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:54:31 AM EDT
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Not true.  There was a lawyer on one of the Fox News shows who said the doctor's removal was not legal.

Passengers do have certain rights once they are actually in the seat with a valid ticket.  Essentially the passenger has to drunk, physically ill or disruptive to be deplaned.  You cannot eject a paid, seated, otherwise compliant passenger because of overbooking.  The usual course of action is to raise the offer of compensation until someone volunteers.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:54:32 AM EDT
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And again with the overselling. If a made up and completely irrelevant even if true "fact" is the best you can do to argue for it, you may want to reconsider your position. 
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It's almost like the two events aren't related at all.  
1) Both passengers refused air crew and police orders to deplane.
2) In the doctor's case, he was physically removed.
3) In the woman's case, ever fucking passenger was inconvenienced by having to deplane because police are afraid to do their job now.

You have no right to stay on a plane if aircrew or police tell you to get off, period.

Why you defend the felon doctor, I have no idea.
I defend against a terrible business practice that allows the overselling of seats under government approval.

If an ad hominem is the best you can do to argue against it, you may want to reconsider your position.
And again with the overselling. If a made up and completely irrelevant even if true "fact" is the best you can do to argue for it, you may want to reconsider your position. 
I'm being generous with the overselling term since we all know that United wanted them for their own use.  How you are twisting this into me ignoring facts will need some explaining, because you're not making anything of a point so far.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 10:55:29 AM EDT
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You think this is bad just wait until they start enforcing the overhead bin charge.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/yes-united-start-charging-carry-on-bags-article-1.2875594

The felon doctor and SJW "OMG!! OMG !!" woman have changed air travel. FAs will ask and if the person doesn't respond, they will call for the the police. They are not going to be confrontational. It is not worth their job and having the negative publicity for the airline. There will be people like this woman acting up and looking for a paycheck because someone will film and post it on Youtube

Police are not going to get an uncooperative person off a plane now without deplaning everyone. They are not going to want to be filmed either.  People will miss connections and flights will be delayed. This will be the new normal now.
Live with it.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 11:00:51 AM EDT
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Wonder what an option, on a new plane, to have each seat wired with a taser style contacts would run?

"Yes, we need passenger in 33A to deplane and they're not cooperating"

BZZZZZ

"Yeaoooow. OK OK, I'm leaving".
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 11:02:23 AM EDT
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 Newsflash: you don't own that seat and your money can be refunded.  

I actually agree with removing unruly passengers.  No way I want to be locked in to a jet with some crazy entitled asshole at FL300 or higher.  Your snowflake feelings mean jack to me.  My safety and and not having to listen to your crap means far more to me.  
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How was the doctor affecting your safety?
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I hate how today's technology is making high school kids commit suicide, and every little stupid event causes phones to be whipped out and used to create national news.

The Internet will be the downfall of civilization, I've said this way back before iPhones existed.  Too many infrastructure devices which survived decades without Internet access suddenly are online - as if the Internet is a solid and reliable utility.  We have power outages being blamed on hacking, and meanwhile airplanes are getting online and driverless vehicles are being designed - as if we need this.

I don't want to imagine what else is being taken out of our control and handed over to robots.  HAL9000 is a term this new generation has to Google... in fact, this generation would be lost without Google.  Totally. Lost.

Third world countries will be laughing at the catastrophes we A.) programed assuming computers never make mistakes B.) coded by H1B foreigners who get paid less and really don't give a shit about America, and C.) the assumption that electricity, water, and Internet are utilities that are stable and friendly.
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Only if their crimes constitute a felony.  But since their is no constitutional right to fly I guess its safe to say "Their plane, their rules"
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He didn't affect my safety because I wasn't on the plane.  But when he started getting belligerent with Security, after he got off once then ran back on the plane to his seat, he was a problem.  The time to act out is not when security is in your face.  You politely comply, and handle in a more adult-like manner.  When you don't security kicks your ass.  That's how things end up in todays world where its a speeding ticket, or crap like the airline stuff.  And to be clear it was airport security that removed the faggot doctor, not any United employee.  That is not the same thing.  But united is taking the beating for it. 

Now, what we have is a precedent set that people can act any way they want, with no consequence.  They will press to test and push buttons challenging the airlines and crews looking for a payday.
And everyone else will be inconvenienced in the process.  
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In which case? This one where there's just someone that's mad as a hatter, or the one where United wanted to buy a seat at the last moment on a full plane and chose to pay less than the market rate for them?
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Just wait till some person sits down in a window seat or First Class seat that they did not pay for and refuse to move.

Since you liberals won't accept commands to move; all passengers must deplane because of one disruptive asshole.

This will cause massive future delays because you liberals have taught people have the right to refuse to listen to aircrew and police on a plane.
You certainly have a vivid imagination that's continuing to relate shit that has nothing to do with overselling and how to deal with that self-inflicted wound.
You certainly have a way of continuing to ignore the facts in a case because they dont suit the your narrative. 
In which case? This one where there's just someone that's mad as a hatter, or the one where United wanted to buy a seat at the last moment on a full plane and chose to pay less than the market rate for them?
That isnt overselling, is it? In fact overselling, the current war cry, had nothing to do with the first incident, did it?

I had a big long post typed out, but lets face it. Im not changing your mind and you arent changing mine. 

True that the two scenarios are in fact different, but if you dont see them linked in the sense that the furor created over the first doesnt empower the behavior in the second, there isnt a damn thinkg Im going to type that will convince you. (your ad hominem comment tells me that clearly)

Have a good Sunday.
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