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Posted: 4/22/2017 3:47:03 PM EDT
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I give up, Your not getting it. No one including myself is going to try to answer a question you can fabricate an answer for to prove your point. It is playing straight into your hand even if we are right. Silliness. Now I will admit any mutt can be tough to identify. I just played this little game at the local humane society when I went to volunteer to foster a dog a few weeks ago. I was surprised by some of the results but some of those DNA tests can be so vague it's hard to say what the hell it really is. Regardless anything that even resembles a Pitt will not be in my house. All those "genetic instincts" just disappear if it doesn't look the part, but they're automatically present if it looks the part but doesn't actually carry any pit in it? |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 4:00:20 PM EDT
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I dont like Pits but it used to break my heart the way these gangsters and illegals use them for fighting rings and then just discard them after they start losing or just get tired of being tortured.
And of course the first ones people would call would be us and I'd have to deal with this torn up, freezing, starving, abused animal some no good POS tormented for his short life. I dont care if the breed is is bred for aggression no animal really likes to fight. So these assholes would toss these tormented Pits out the car leaving the 'hood, and especially kids, in a lot of danger because these poor dogs are just a mess. I should have put a .45 thru everyone out of mercy but the media would hang "dog killer" on me even tho they get the needle automatically anyway if caught, which is rarely. ANY pit brought in or turned in is put down immediately but that doesnt make a good enough headline. Only a twisted human being would torment a dog. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 4:02:20 PM EDT
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Oh what the hell. I'll say it. I didn't see a "Pit Bull" in that vid anywhere. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 4:22:49 PM EDT
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We responded to a burglary last week. Neighbor was watching the house for the owners and wasn't sure why the lights in the house were left on. Only being we found inside was a big ole bully breed (likely American Bulldog mix). He sounded scary from upstairs and was blocked in a room by a flimsy baby gate. Was nice as can be and boy did he have a giant head. I had to pet him. No shots fired. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 4:39:04 PM EDT
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Pitbulls are muslims
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Posted: 4/22/2017 5:48:21 PM EDT
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Looks like one pitbull attacking another, with an old guy and JRT lying on top for a brief moment. Status: undisturbed.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:06:32 PM EDT
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Why do half the people in this thread think they could have safely got a shot off without the possibility of injuring someone on a skinny dock full of people?
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:06:46 PM EDT
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So you're acknowledging that there really isn't any way to actually identify the dogs y'all purport to hate based on appearance alone, but you're convinced that everything labeled a pit bull is absolutely a pit bull and if it doesn't look like what you think a pit bull looks like, it gets an automatic pass regardless of actual heritage? All those "genetic instincts" just disappear if it doesn't look the part, but they're automatically present if it looks the part but doesn't actually carry any pit in it? Now please explain the statistics posted a while back. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:13:16 PM EDT
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Yup I acknowledge that none of us haters can tell a Pekingese from an Irish Wolfhound. Now let's move past your little game of semantics. Nobody buys the "it's not a Pit, it's an American blah, blah, blah blah, terrier/mix BS". Not all "pit", "pit/mixes" look the same, whatever we get it. Now please explain the statistics posted a while back. Now go hang out with your cat at your parents basement. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:15:40 PM EDT
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Why do half the people in this thread think they could have safely got a shot off without the possibility of injuring someone on a skinny dock full of people? |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:19:28 PM EDT
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Animals are much stronger pound for pound and many times faster than people are. We also live in a very peaceful society, where people (usually out of shape) typically aren't living on edge and mentally ready for violence at any time. The few seconds it takes someone to react can be critical, especially for fights that start in close proximity, with animals that latch on. I mean I know you are a sheepdog walking around with perfect training/instincts, a fat wallet, trained GSD, supermodel wife, 87 weapons, and body armor, ready for a fight to the death at the first indicator of trouble. I guess you are just 87X better than the average American. Thanks for gracing us little people with your badass presence on this forum. The rest of us would be lucky to get a few strikes/stabs/shots in before serious injuries are dished out. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:26:51 PM EDT
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My best friends daughter lost vision in one eye, had half her scalp detached from her head and very nearly died after his step-moms "wouldn't hurt a fly" Pit had a bad day. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:31:25 PM EDT
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In this thread I learned that pitbulls are the only dog in all of doggiedom that have no instincts whatsoever. They do exactly what their owners tell them to do unlike any retriever, pointer, or herding dog that carry natural born instincts. They are they artists clay of the dog world just needing the touch of their owners.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:37:10 PM EDT
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CSB time:
I took my Cocker Spaniel to the vet today for his checkup and shots, with my boy in tow. It was a parade of animals: two cats in crates, Dachshunds, two beautiful Labs, one golden and one black, a couple Schnauzers, and what I think was a Pekingese. Oh, and two Pits. The Pit puppy was brought in by its owner rocking a chest harness and a chain leash, and the adult Pit was brought in by its owner on a choker collar with what looked to be a Paracord leash. While waiting for the vet, my dog said hello to the Labs, then sat with me, the black Lab laid down and chilled, the golden kept saying hello, the Dachshund went straight to the kennels, the Schnauzers and Pek slept. The Pit pup was constantly pulled back from lunging at other dogs by its owner and the adult Pit's owner kept a hold on its leash and an arm around its torso, restraining it, for the 30 minutes we were waiting. Put me in the list of those who don't trust Pits, along with two of their owners. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:51:35 PM EDT
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The hell they dont! Ill skip to my most unchallengeable point. Ive raised generations of border collies and every single one of them knows how to herd things and they are damn good at it right out of the box. Had a few labs too and, once again, they all love swimming without being told to do so. Never owned a pitt but the wifes family raised chows and can testify that some breeds can be set off on a killing spree with very little or with strange provocation. A sudden movement can trigger a deeply rooted need to attack what the dogs instinct saw as a weakness or attempt to flee. Hell, even house cats can be seen taking advantage of an exposed vulnerability even if they are just playing. Was about to hit submit when I noticed just how ridiculous your post was and finally realized what you were doing. 
Im going to submit anyway. Tapped it out, may as well post my inability to catch the joke. 
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:01:08 PM EDT
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Yup I acknowledge that none of us haters can tell a Pekingese from an Irish Wolfhound. Now let's move past your little game of semantics. Nobody buys the "it's not a Pit, it's an American blah, blah, blah blah, terrier/mix BS". Not all "pit", "pit/mixes" look the same, whatever we get it. Now please explain the statistics posted a while back. A full explanation involves a lot more factors, and if you're actually interested, here's a quick run down: 1. Lots of misidentification which is never corrected. If it sort of looks the part, it's labeled as such and no one bothers to look further. 2. It's the only "breed" which actually encompasses multiple breeds and all mutts assumed to be partly made up of those breeds. 3. Crappy owners. This includes the thugs and abusers and trailer trash, but also the people who never bother to train and socialize their dogs and those who get a "rescue" dog and immediately treat it like a well-known, 100% trustworthy housepet. A lot of the owners aren't fit to own a goldfish, much less a pit bull. 4. Complete ignorance of dog behavior in the general populace. No, the dog with the waggy tail isn't always happy to see you, and letting your kid run up to a strange dog and big it is idiotic at best. 5. People doing no research into the dog they're getting and ending up with more dog than they can handle. There is no doubt that the vast majority of pits are energetic dogs with a higher prey drive and can have a tendency toward dog aggression. None of those traits make them "bad" dogs, but in the hands of an owner who can not or does not manage and control them, they can spell trouble. Numerous other breeds have those traits, but they aren't nearly as common and tend to have owners who know how to manage them. Add all that up, and you get those numbers. No one denies that the breed (or group of breeds and mutts, as the case may be) has certain traits. Most breeds are created with a purpose in mind, and the actual pit bull was a general farm dog repurposed into a gladiator, much like the German Shepherd was a herding dog that's been repurposed into a K9/protection type dog. The idea that this particular breed (or group of breeds and mutts, as the case may be) is universally "bad" because of those traits, but other breeds with those traits aren't "bad" is narrow-minded and looking at the wrong end of the leash. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:09:07 PM EDT
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Thanks for telling us how much of a pussy you are. If you cannot win a fight against a 60lbs animal as a full-grown human male of 200lbs, you're indeed a little person that needs protection by us "sheepdogs". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Animals are much stronger pound for pound and many times faster than people are. We also live in a very peaceful society, where people (usually out of shape) typically aren't living on edge and mentally ready for violence at any time. The few seconds it takes someone to react can be critical, especially for fights that start in close proximity, with animals that latch on. I mean I know you are a sheepdog walking around with perfect training/instincts, a fat wallet, trained GSD, supermodel wife, 87 weapons, and body armor, ready for a fight to the death at the first indicator of trouble. I guess you are just 87X better than the average American. Thanks for gracing us little people with your badass presence on this forum. The rest of us would be lucky to get a few strikes/stabs/shots in before serious injuries are dished out. 
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:23:08 PM EDT
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CSB time: I took my Cocker Spaniel to the vet today for his checkup and shots, with my boy in tow. It was a parade of animals: two cats in crates, Dachshunds, two beautiful Labs, one golden and one black, a couple Schnauzers, and what I think was a Pekingese. Oh, and two Pits. The Pit puppy was brought in by its owner rocking a chest harness and a chain leash, and the adult Pit was brought in by its owner on a choker collar with what looked to be a Paracord leash. While waiting for the vet, my dog said hello to the Labs, then sat with me, the black Lab laid down and chilled, the golden kept saying hello, the Dachshund went straight to the kennels, the Schnauzers and Pek slept. The Pit pup was constantly pulled back from lunging at other dogs by its owner and the adult Pit's owner kept a hold on its leash and an arm around its torso, restraining it, for the 30 minutes we were waiting. Put me in the list of those who don't trust Pits, along with two of their owners. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:24:35 PM EDT
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Leave it to the Jack Russell to get the shit rolling....lol
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:25:06 PM EDT
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New Jersey...Living up to negative stereotypes. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:26:44 PM EDT
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Leave it to the Jack Russell to get the shit rolling....lol |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:12:57 PM EDT
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He isn't wrong. There is zero reason a healthy adult male shouldn't be able to fend off a pit bull in a known one on one encounter in an open space. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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New Jersey...Living up to negative stereotypes. A guy I know was attacked by a pit and had his calf muscle ripped out on the initial attack. I guess his ground & pound game was sub-par , because after that he was lucky he lived. The police showed up and blasted the beasts hindquarters into pieces with a shotgun, and the thing was still trying to attack. A second shot to the lungs ended it. You guys who are bragging about how easy it is to defeat a marauding pit bull are seriously underestimating their strength & tenacity, and overestimating your own.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:31:07 PM EDT
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He isn't wrong. There is zero reason a healthy adult male shouldn't be able to fend off a pit bull in a known one on one encounter in an open space. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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New Jersey...Living up to negative stereotypes.
Except none of that applies to what happened in the video or anything in my post. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 9:23:37 PM EDT
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Where's that "We've got us some badasses" meme? A guy I know was attacked by a pit and had his calf muscle ripped out on the initial attack. I guess his ground & pound game was sub-par , because after that he was lucky he lived. The police showed up and blasted the beasts hindquarters into pieces with a shotgun, and the thing was still trying to attack. A second shot to the lungs ended it. You guys who are bragging about how easy it is to defeat a marauding pit bull are seriously underestimating their strength & tenacity, and overestimating your own. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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New Jersey...Living up to negative stereotypes. A guy I know was attacked by a pit and had his calf muscle ripped out on the initial attack. I guess his ground & pound game was sub-par , because after that he was lucky he lived. The police showed up and blasted the beasts hindquarters into pieces with a shotgun, and the thing was still trying to attack. A second shot to the lungs ended it. You guys who are bragging about how easy it is to defeat a marauding pit bull are seriously underestimating their strength & tenacity, and overestimating your own. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 9:35:22 PM EDT
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This is why I wear TWO Talons. Animal gets close enough to attach one of my arms, I have a Talon to grab for each arm - game over for the animal.
I do not understand becoming the victim of an attack. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 9:47:28 PM EDT
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Benchmade...deployed...bury the first hit to the spine...then disembowel it with the second. Or, better yet, fire until slide stop, reload, repeat. or put em in a cage and throw the cage in the bay or throw the dog and and the owner off a ten story building. record the action and put in youtube or hippity-hoppity-nation. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 9:54:16 PM EDT
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You want a Kershaw Leek in your neck? Cause that's how you get a Kershaw Leek in your neck. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 10:14:52 PM EDT
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So you're acknowledging that there really isn't any way to actually identify the dogs y'all purport to hate based on appearance alone, but you're convinced that everything labeled a pit bull is absolutely a pit bull and if it doesn't look like what you think a pit bull looks like, it gets an automatic pass regardless of actual heritage? All those "genetic instincts" just disappear if it doesn't look the part, but they're automatically present if it looks the part but doesn't actually carry any pit in it? Some dogs are more prone to violent attacks than others and "pits" are one of those, but we all know that's not a trait exclusive to them. The one time my dog was attacked it was some shaggy sheep dog St Bernard looking dog that did it. It's lucky it didn't try to attack my mom who kicked it off my JRT during their walk or come me after me when I walked down there with my 1911. The cops did the same thing when they showed up, only with an 1187. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 10:19:59 PM EDT
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Thanks for telling us how much of a pussy you are. If you cannot win a fight against a 60lbs animal as a full-grown human male of 200lbs, you're indeed a little person that needs protection by us "sheepdogs". 
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Posted: 4/22/2017 10:41:22 PM EDT
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I was just at a friend's house a few days ago and saw the aftermath of a pit visitation. They had to take their kid to the ER because their neighbor brought his pit over while the kids were playing in the yard. The neighbor in question is fairly typical of the type who have pitbulls for all the wrong reasons and fail to train them properly, then their dog "just attacked for no reason, it would never hurt a fly...". You know, police hating, neck tattoo, generally trashy types.
I am always wary around pits, been around dogs my whole life and I know that even the best trained dog can go off. When a large breed dog built for mayhem goes off someone is going to get fucking hurt, and that is the problem. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 11:10:21 PM EDT
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Defend this..... 2016 dog bite fatality statistics 31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2 Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016. The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 12-year period. From 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 43, a citizen every 102 days |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 11:40:22 PM EDT
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My fat faggot cousin has a hard on for pits. Apparently via my mom his new one just tackled my 8year old second cousin and scratched her back up earlier this week. His last pit almost tore his finger off when it got into a fight with his neighbors dog and he tried to pull them apart. That one got ran over eventually.
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Posted: 4/23/2017 6:29:53 AM EDT
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I don't think anyone cares about your pictures. Most of us know a "pit" when we see one. The barrel chest, the skull structure, the way the legs are structured all give hints to a mutts genetics. The "breed" isn't as violent and broken as people believe, and almost 100% of the issues are owned related. People want this nice, easy solution (oh, if we just got rid of those, everything will be fine), but that's not how the world works. You have to address the actual causes of the problem, which is much more difficult. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 7:53:07 AM EDT
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People make this comment tongue in cheek, but it's actually fairly legit. Let's see if people can pick out the pit mix in this group: http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/193497/image-185406.JPG http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122302/IMG-0888-185523.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/339551/IMG-1856-185578.jpg http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/Lon_Moer/Ginger/DSCN0074.jpg |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:29:43 AM EDT
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Yup I acknowledge that none of us haters can tell a Pekingese from an Irish Wolfhound. Now let's move past your little game of semantics. Nobody buys the "it's not a Pit, it's an American blah, blah, blah blah, terrier/mix BS". Not all "pit", "pit/mixes" look the same, whatever we get it. Now please explain the statistics posted a while back. This is the equivalent of her game.... Can you tell me which pill has aspirin in it? WELL CAN YOU!?  Attached File Attached File Attached FileI can tell you whatever I want you to believe about the aspirin and you have no way of validating what I am saying so I win every time. Facts PROVE pit bulls are aggressive and dangerous dogs. Trailer parks in Alabama PROVE white trash with bad tattoos own pit bulls. I never see a pit bull jumping out of a minivan at the local dog park. I DO see inbred, toothless trash with cutoff t shirts proudly walking their penis extension pit bulls around. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:41:48 AM EDT
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Thanks for telling us how much of a pussy you are. If you cannot win a fight against a 60lbs animal as a full-grown human male of 200lbs, you're indeed a little person that needs protection by us "sheepdogs". |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:46:47 AM EDT
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It's become very apparent that no one actually cares about verifiable facts, just their own opinions and conjecture. The point of the exercise, which none of the haters chose to even attempt, is that appearance is a very poor way to judge a mutt's genetic make-up. "I just know it when I see it" doesn't work. The "instincts" and "genetics" aren't based on appearance. They don't magically appear if a dog looks the part but is a boxer/pointer mix. They don't magically disappear if the dog looks like a shepherd mix. And claiming that 30+ breeds and the various permutations and mixes thereof are all just one breed, really, is like claiming all "gun violence" is the same and including police encounters, suicides, and accidents to artificially inflate the numbers. The "breed" isn't as violent and broken as people believe, and almost 100% of the issues are owned related. People want this nice, easy solution (oh, if we just got rid of those, everything will be fine), but that's not how the world works. You have to address the actual causes of the problem, which is much more difficult. I had to LOL at this, "It's become very apparent that no one actually cares about verifiable facts, just their own opinions and conjecture." Statistics don't lie. Pit Bulls are the most dangerous breed of dog in the US. Furthermore, Pit Bulls only make up 6% of the dog population but account for over 70% of the deaths caused by dog attacks. These are just deaths, shall I pull statistics for maulings that didn't lead to death? And this, "almost 100% of the issues are owned related" LOL LOL I bet EVERY owner in the statistics I posted said one of these after the MAULING DEATH occurred, "I can't believe he/ she did that!" "Fido has never growled or shown any signs of aggression!" "It must be the dead child's fault because sudden movement scared Fido" |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:50:13 AM EDT
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Naamah: Which one is part pit bull for god's sake!!??
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:52:29 AM EDT
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Would you like to know how I know that you have NEVER had a 60lb animal attack you? |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:53:35 AM EDT
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I'll play. I would guess 2 or 3. That said, I also wouldn't have called any of those pit bulls or ast's, so your point isn't as valid as you may be trying to make. I also don't think that they should all be put down, but owners should be responsible for their AST or PBT if it attacks. Full disclosure my dog was bit by one a couple of months ago and it is a pit bought from a reputable breeder and trained, lives with two children too. And the info for the dogs is here. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:54:10 AM EDT
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WRONG! There have been 2 or 3 people guess at your little control game and you have yet to disclose which one has pit in it. I had to LOL at this, "It's become very apparent that no one actually cares about verifiable facts, just their own opinions and conjecture." Statistics don't lie. Pit Bulls are the most dangerous breed of dog in the US. Furthermore, Pit Bulls only make up 6% of the dog population but account for over 70% of the deaths caused by dog attacks. These are just deaths, shall I pull statistics for maulings that didn't lead to death? And this, "almost 100% of the issues are owned related" LOL LOL I bet EVERY owner in the statistics I posted said one of these after the MAULING DEATH occurred, "I can't believe he/ she did that!" "Fido has never growled or shown any signs of aggression!" "It must be the dead child's fault because sudden movement scared Fido" |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:58:22 AM EDT
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Pick up all dogs and toss in water.. How many Mfers walk their dog on a pier that small any way?
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:59:17 AM EDT
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WRONG! There have been 2 or 3 people guess at your little control game and you have yet to disclose which one has pit in it. I had to LOL at this, "It's become very apparent that no one actually cares about verifiable facts, just their own opinions and conjecture." Statistics don't lie. Pit Bulls are the most dangerous breed of dog in the US. Furthermore, Pit Bulls only make up 6% of the dog population but account for over 70% of the deaths caused by dog attacks. These are just deaths, shall I pull statistics for maulings that didn't lead to death? And this, "almost 100% of the issues are owned related" LOL LOL I bet EVERY owner in the statistics I posted said one of these after the MAULING DEATH occurred, "I can't believe he/ she did that!" "Fido has never growled or shown any signs of aggression!" "It must be the dead child's fault because sudden movement scared Fido" And yes, statistics lie all the time. They can be manipulated all sorts of ways. Or do you also believe in global warming statistics, rape statistics, and gun violence statistics? As to your final little jab, you prove my point. If an owner is entirely unaware of the signals their dog has been giving, it is absolutely the owner's fault. If a dog is running around loose, it is absolutely the owner's fault. If a dog is untrained or unsocialized, it is absolutely the owner's fault. If a dog is left unsupervised around children, it is absolutely the owner's fault. Who else's fault is it? |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:00:37 AM EDT
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Naamah: Which one is part pit bull for god's sake!!?? 
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:02:18 AM EDT
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Why do half the people in this thread think they could have safely got a shot off without the possibility of injuring someone on a skinny dock full of people? 
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:04:28 AM EDT
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Sadly, nothing new.
Pit owners are lazy. None can complain when you put their dog down though. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:47:27 AM EDT
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Maybe he has? I have been attacked by a roughly 70# pit. 
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:48:47 AM EDT
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There are 3 of them.
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Posted: 4/23/2017 6:35:30 PM EDT
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1, 2, and 4 all tested positive for "pit bull" DNA. #3 did not. And you wouldn't have called them pit bulls because they don't really look like it, although #3 was quite often mistaken for one, including by the people who listed her breed at the animal shelter. My point was that appearance and breed make up aren't necessarily as closely linked as many assume. Dogs get misidentified as pit bulls all the time. And dogs who actually are part pit bull aren't identified as such because they don't look like one. If "statistics" are based on appearance (and they are), they will necessarily, inherently be skewed and incorrect. Ergo, any conclusions drawn from said "statistics" will also be skewed and incorrect. And the info for the dogs is here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll play. I would guess 2 or 3. That said, I also wouldn't have called any of those pit bulls or ast's, so your point isn't as valid as you may be trying to make. I also don't think that they should all be put down, but owners should be responsible for their AST or PBT if it attacks. Full disclosure my dog was bit by one a couple of months ago and it is a pit bought from a reputable breeder and trained, lives with two children too. And the info for the dogs is here. You put mutts into play, what about straight up AST's or PBT's? I have a 100% Samoyed. I can trace lines, his grandfather won breed at Westminster. He placed at the Samoyed National. No mistaking him for anything but a Sammy if you know of the breed. I can tell one pure bred dog breed from another. So the dog that bit mine was a PBT, there are a lot of dogs that have gone after my intact (never bred) male. I won't say it was just because he was a PBT. It was many factors. My MIL was walking my dog at the time, it probably doesn't happen at all if I am. But playing the DNA game is somewhat silly. Look at what breeds were intermingled to make a PBT. How many of those were listed in all the dogs you pictured. Picking 4 mutts and playing the guess the DNA game with 4 non PBT looking Mutts is like every person that is 1/64th Cherokee. Find me 4 dogs that actually could be mistaken for pure bred PBT's and then look at the common DNA between those. I'll bet the outcome of the game changes quite a bit. Edit for clarity. |
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He isn't wrong. There is zero reason a healthy adult male shouldn't be able to fend off a pit bull in a known one on one encounter in an open space. Guy must have been a pussy, huh itstock?
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