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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:07:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:08:35 PM EDT
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In for OPs ER visit update!
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:14:02 PM EDT
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OH... SO IN!
This is going to be as epic as the shovel AK build if not more. |
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:16:23 PM EDT
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Very Mad Max! I'm digging it, nice OP.
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:26:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:27:59 PM EDT
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Don't forget to wrap some copper wire on there to hold something on. Also needs a gnarly homemade bayonet on there. 
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:34:31 PM EDT
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Could use the aluminum handle from an old paint sprayer or other shop tool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Could use the aluminum handle from an old paint sprayer or other shop tool. Quoted:
Dont like the rubber hose handle . Use an old kitchen knife and weld it in! And for the rear sight use a washer as a peep sight
Sights will be dependent on how I do the upper. I may get something surplus Quoted:
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Hmmmmmmm....That may just be the ticket. It'd be a metric fuck ton less work than wood Not to mention I loathe woodworking 
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:36:45 PM EDT
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OP, don't forget to put enough quarters or spacers to shorten that buffer tube down to carbine length, or you're gonna break your gas key screws. Link to OP's previous thread: www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1911207_I_joined_the_80__crowd_but_moar_punk_rock____or_dare_I_say__metal_AF_.html Older ARFCOM builds: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/647105_Steel_AR_flats_from_the_Flat_Spot.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/648352_I_welded_together_a_steel_receiver_from_theflatspot_net__Now_with_functional_selector__pg_2.html $29 flats w/ $8 flat rate shipping: http://www.theflatspot.net/ar-15-receiver-flat.html OP, as the upper is essentially a 1" tube, you can use the same pipe you used for the buffer tube, and weld the take down trunnions to it after you cut out the bottom. If you screw an op handle into the bolt carrier, you can just cut a channel aft of the ejection port. The hard part will be the gas key channel, as you want to keep it from squirting gas into your eyeball. You don't have to thread the bbl trunnion in the front, just slot it for the bbl key and weld the castle nut to the the upper. You'll also need to cut a slot in the upper tube for the cam key. Well done. |
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:39:40 PM EDT
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What are you going to use for the takedown pins? I suggest using threaded bolts with wing nuts  Quote HistoryQuoted:
What are you going to use for the takedown pins? I suggest using threaded bolts with wing nuts Quoted:
You should get a piece of leather, get a soft tape and measure over the top of the buffer tube from the center of the bolt on one side to the center on the other side, then put some grommets in the leather on those marks and drape it across the top of the buffer tube and grab it through the grommets with the bolts. That would look cool and protect your face a little. Just leave a little material around the grommets and trim it flat from and back.
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A chunk of sheet metal cut with really shitty snips and hit with a bastard file to sharpen it Make it all ratty, scraped, and dented. 
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:44:24 PM EDT
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OP, don't forget to put enough quarters or spacers to shorten that buffer tube down to carbine length, or you're gonna break your gas key screws. Quote HistoryQuoted:
OP, don't forget to put enough quarters or spacers to shorten that buffer tube down to carbine length, or you're gonna break your gas key screws.  I'm cutting a dowel to fit tomorrow, I'm done for today
OP, as the upper is essentially a 1" tube, you can use the same pipe you used for the buffer tube, and weld the take down trunnions to it after you cut out the bottom. If you screw an op handle into the bolt carrier, you can just cut a channel aft of the ejection port. The hard part will be the gas key channel, as you want to keep it from squirting gas into your eyeball. You don't have to thread the bbl trunnion in the front, just slot it for the bbl key and weld the castle nut to the the upper. You'll also need to cut a slot in the upper tube for the cam key. Well done. I wonder if the 1" stuff I used is tight enough though........I'll measure in the AM. I think I have an idea for the gas key channel but I'm too tired and hungry to put it into words at the moment I'll see what I can come up with "on paper" after supper
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:45:04 PM EDT
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If that front rail is free floated then for God's sake don't put a BUIS on it or people around here will shit themselves....
In the meantime, rock on cause this is a great thread. |
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:55:59 PM EDT
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That is pretty cool.
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Posted: 4/1/2017 10:00:10 PM EDT
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That is pretty cool.
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Posted: 4/1/2017 10:01:36 PM EDT
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I think I have an idea for the gas key channel 
But made of steel? I could just remove the goofy riser part and utilize that channel for the gas key while doubling as a mount. Thoughts anyone? Or is that too pretty
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Posted: 4/1/2017 10:06:07 PM EDT
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If that front rail is free floated then for God's sake don't put a BUIS on it or people around here will shit themselves....
In the meantime, rock on cause this is a great thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
If that front rail is free floated then for God's sake don't put a BUIS on it or people around here will shit themselves....
In the meantime, rock on cause this is a great thread. Gonna place it in the dissy position (via set screw, not pinning it) so If this "custom" FF rail flops hard I can fall back on my original plan
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That is pretty cool. 
And again, a thank you to everyone!
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Posted: 4/1/2017 10:27:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK so does anyone know of something like this:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ALcUBhlTL.jpg But made of steel? I could just remove the goofy riser part and utilize that channel for the gas key while doubling as a mount. Thoughts anyone? Or is that too pretty |
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Posted: 4/1/2017 10:29:52 PM EDT
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ost
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Posted: 4/2/2017 12:14:45 AM EDT
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Neat.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 12:32:03 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/411027/IMG-20170401-165812887-2-178856.JPG It works fine on say a corner but I couldn't get it to bite at all when working the channel |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 1:06:47 AM EDT
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Clicked for a carpentry fail.
Stayed for post apocalyptic awesomeness. Rock on OP. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 1:15:15 AM EDT
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That would help a lot! PM me how much you want for them! @BillythePoet Just don't get mad when I copy you.... I love frankin guns.... |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 11:36:32 AM EDT
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This is awesome.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 11:40:27 AM EDT
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I love fallout and now I love this thread.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 12:51:07 PM EDT
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Ok so the 1" tubing I have is 1.02-1.04....The upper I have is between .997 and 1.004...
Do yall think that the tolerances there are too loose? I kinda feel like the BCG would rattle around in there too much 
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Posted: 4/2/2017 1:25:10 PM EDT
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Skim coat it with JB Weld.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 1:39:32 PM EDT
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Fun is bad. Theme builds are bad. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 1:51:02 PM EDT
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OK so does anyone know of something like this: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ALcUBhlTL.jpg But made of steel? I could just remove the goofy riser part and utilize that channel for the gas key while doubling as a mount. Thoughts anyone? Or is that too pretty Thats too pretty |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 1:55:03 PM EDT
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Ok so the 1" tubing I have is 1.02-1.04....The upper I have is between .997 and 1.004... Do yall think that the tolerances there are too loose? I kinda feel like the BCG would rattle around in there too much |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:02:48 PM EDT
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Don't forget to wrap some copper wire on there to hold something on. Also needs a gnarly homemade bayonet on there. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:03:40 PM EDT
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Fun looking project, I'd have to hang that on the wall with my Fallout prints.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok so the 1" tubing I have is 1.02-1.04....The upper I have is between .997 and 1.004...
Do yall think that the tolerances there are too loose? I kinda feel like the BCG would rattle around in there too much
Seriously, you are cutting the entire top off the pipe, and the entire bottom of the pipe. You are left w/ less than 2x halves of pipe. Take up the .04" when you weld the two halves back together to the gas key raceway & the takedown lugs. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:10:29 PM EDT
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Grip 2.0 is pretty much there! This one is moar betterer
 Attached FileUSA!USA!USA!  Attached FileFinal plan, won't epoxy until done welding  Attached FileButtpad is done too  Attached FileI didn't get to tig up everything last night but once that gets one and i can smooth some stuff over, the lower is done! 
I kinda feel the need to incorporate a bottle opener into the magwell though 
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:12:43 PM EDT
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Might want to smooth out some of the rear above the pistol grip. There are some pretty sharp corners up that way for the web of the hand.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:16:41 PM EDT
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Yeah, that BCG will scratch the hell out of your high $ upper w/ those dims, and you will die.
Seriously, you are cutting the entire top off the pipe, and the entire bottom of the pipe. You are left w/ less than 2x halves of pipe. Take up the .04" when you weld the two halves back together to the gas key raceway & the takedown lugs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ok so the 1" tubing I have is 1.02-1.04....The upper I have is between .997 and 1.004...
Do yall think that the tolerances there are too loose? I kinda feel like the BCG would rattle around in there too much
Seriously, you are cutting the entire top off the pipe, and the entire bottom of the pipe. You are left w/ less than 2x halves of pipe. Take up the .04" when you weld the two halves back together to the gas key raceway & the takedown lugs. I'll figure something out
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:18:10 PM EDT
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Coolest project since the sh** shovel AK build.
I like it. More please! |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:19:39 PM EDT
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It's like a bad car accident that I just can't look away from...
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:20:20 PM EDT
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Might want to smooth out some of the rear above the pistol grip. There are some pretty sharp corners up that way for the web of the hand.
 Attached FileBut yes, it's on the list, I'm just waiting to get everything burned in place 100% before attacking it with a flap wheel and Dremel |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:22:59 PM EDT
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If there is to be evidence of that, it will be this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fun is bad. Theme builds are bad. Quoted:
It's like a bad car accident that I just can't look away from... 
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:28:18 PM EDT
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Wow.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 2:49:32 PM EDT
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ER. Mah. Gerd. This is gonna be awesome.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 3:47:40 PM EDT
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I wish that place had an option for the upper. I cant wait to see what you come up with. I would be tempted to fit some square tube over a real upper
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Posted: 4/2/2017 3:53:01 PM EDT
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I wish that place had an option for the upper. I cant wait to see what you come up with. I would be tempted to fit some square tube over a real upper zip off the top rail, cut the sides flat ish, etc. Mount it to the lower so it's attached properly and bed to the steel shell. Could always just build a slightly oversized housing with a cheapo set of rail adapters inside to lock to the upper. Might be taller, but with a good shroud over the upper, nobody could tell. Something like this, then cut off the rails, tap the top for screws, then just screw the shell over the upper. 
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Posted: 4/2/2017 3:58:50 PM EDT
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Definitely tagged. I love this.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 4:14:33 PM EDT
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Definitely tagged. I love this.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 4:28:23 PM EDT
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This is fucking awesome
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Posted: 4/2/2017 4:50:04 PM EDT
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I've been wanting one of those for a LONG time. Would you be willing to take some detail pics of it inside and out? If I can do a square tubing upper that'd be INSANELY coolQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you at least post a pic of said upper moar ideas wouldn't hurt
ETA: I may put one of these in the side of the stock https://img1.etsystatic.com/164/0/14384025/il_570xN.1171403167_elhc.jpg I've been wanting one of those for a LONG time. Would you be willing to take some detail pics of it inside and out? If I can do a square tubing upper that'd be INSANELY coolhttp://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_15/694375_Kind_of_unique_45_upper_I_recently_purchased___Update_pics_of_upper_internals_added_.html I can take measurements and more pics if there is anything particular you want. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 4:56:25 PM EDT
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So if you're going to make the upper, what's the plan for attaching a barrel?
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Posted: 4/2/2017 5:31:37 PM EDT
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Coolest project since the sh** shovel AK build. I like it. More please!
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Posted: 4/2/2017 5:42:26 PM EDT
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That's not a half bad idea really. If it comes down to it, trim down a regular upper to basically be a liner in a square stock upper. That way you know the inside is spec, but you can have it fuckugly on the outside. Only thought is the attachment method. Personally I'd skim bed the two together to keep them tight but isolated from each other to prevent galvanic corrosion. zip off the top rail, cut the sides flat ish, etc. Mount it to the lower so it's attached properly and bed to the steel shell. Could always just build a slightly oversized housing with a cheapo set of rail adapters inside to lock to the upper. Might be taller, but with a good shroud over the upper, nobody could tell. Something like this, then cut off the rails, tap the top for screws, then just screw the shell over the upper. http://yhm.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/750x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/Y/H/YHM-227A_3.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish that place had an option for the upper. I cant wait to see what you come up with. I would be tempted to fit some square tube over a real upper zip off the top rail, cut the sides flat ish, etc. Mount it to the lower so it's attached properly and bed to the steel shell. Could always just build a slightly oversized housing with a cheapo set of rail adapters inside to lock to the upper. Might be taller, but with a good shroud over the upper, nobody could tell. Something like this, then cut off the rails, tap the top for screws, then just screw the shell over the upper. http://yhm.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/750x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/Y/H/YHM-227A_3.jpg
The DPMS thick wall slick side that I have is PERFECT for this. I can easily get it milled "square" and even use aluminium square tubing and weld directly to each other ETA: I forgot 7000 series aluminum is unweldable I wonder how strong a drilling and tapping a bunch of holes would be..........
You guys are the bomb
Oh and pics of everything welded up, rough ground "smooth", and completed grip coming up. Probably all that's getting done today but I'd call it successful
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Posted: 4/2/2017 5:47:13 PM EDT
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So everything is 100% welded now.
 Attached File Attached File Attached FileFinished mechanically now just aesthetics!
 Attached FileOh and I'm going to be incorporating a bottle opener into the right side of the magwell
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