Yeah and in some countries women are stoned to death for ridiculous shit. What does other countries have to do with ours. Here you are allowed to assemble and in this state carry weapons at the low ready. You aren't allowed to assault people and if they reporter wants to pursue charges he should.

Everyone of the other cock gobblers in that picture/video although I don't agree with them and at some point think it is going to turn into a civil war between us/them. Did not break any laws to my knowledge and have a right to be out there looking like idiots when they cross that line then it's a different story. Until then not looking for the government to come and squash people we don't agree with based on speach.

Here's the reality if they were just marching while open carrying - it's legal in AZ.  But they didn't just do that.  They openly advocated violence in response to free speech THEY found offensive.  That is akin to inciting a riot and is battery.  These are a little tough to bore out in court so let's jump to recorded crimes.  As soon as "soldier boy" shoved the "reporter" he minimally committed misdemeanor assault, but by having a weapon and wearing body armor that then likely was escalated to felony x3 as committing a crime with a weapon and body armor are illegal in many states (not sure if AZ is).  
 

There is no way any court would have a decision of an unrestricted 2nd. What Heller did was make it clear it was an individual right. That can be built upon. since Heller, we have gotten Incorporation. Future decisions could protect AWs, high cap mages, etc.

Their team is doing it so it's wrong. Got it.

I wouldn't get carried away with that.

Nothing a big ass vbied couldn't handle.

What's really funny about that is how much of a screaming socialist Heinlein looks to have been in real life. Much like our modern day savant, Joss Whedon, his more famous works would seem to run counter to the actions of his real life politics.


Slippery? Is it really? I think that much of the whole 'slippery slope' dynamic that people bang on about leaves a lot to be desired, philosophically.  It's used as an excuse, mostly, for not taking hard stands, or conversely, as a call to action regarding compromise. Neither is entirely accurate, but they both work on the easily led.

In the end, you either have a set of rules and morals, and live in a functioning society, or you don't, and you live in a chaotic bucket of venomous snakes.

It is the duty of the electorate every bit as much as the elected to keep the society functioning as it was devised and promised. The fact that it's fallen so far already is as much our faults as it is theirs. It is also our duty to insure that your slippery slope never leads to the ideological test barring those who adhere to the spirit of the society.


I disagree. We've got the perfect template to follow, if only we'd bother to use it.  Better to say that there's no 'quick and easy' way to get back.

Anybody who expects the struggle back to the true path to be any shorter than the path to where we've arrived at this stage is fooling themselves. We need to grab hold of the mindset the instigators of the leftist slow march did those many long years ago. We need to understand that we won't see the end. We'll not live to see the goal achieved. Our job at this point is to set the course and train the troops.

The educational system, the media, popular culture... These are the battlefields. We need to muster their conquest.

Right now, at this moment, there is a cadre of alt media on youtube, facebook, minds.com, and vid.me who are doing pitched battle with legacy media. The lefties running facebook, google (and therefore youtube) and twitter are actively attacking them, changing rules, metrics, visibility, etc... They're getting their videos demonotized and delisted, their subscriber lists purged, and are fending off false copyright strikes. They need support.  They don't all agree with us on many things, but they're in there fighting, and they deserve our support where we can give it.

There are school boards all over the country whose seats aren't even contested. We bitch about what the schools teach our children, but leave the curriculum to the lefties who occupy those seats. Take them away. Change the pile of nonsense that's being taught. Teach our offspring the important things, the values, the hard science, history, philosophy that made America great once upon a time.

Within 2 generations, the left will be an interesting cautionary tale.

Feed the pepes. Run hoppean snake meme bumper stickers on your brodozers. Laugh at and with yourselves like the left never can, and you'll own the pop culture. Use it to steer the young back to the values that matter. (don't "I can haz", though. Seems to freak them out, or at least it does my kids)

Mostly, we need to engage. Not combatively, but engage. Somebody says something stupid, don't just snort and walk past. Have a talk with them. You might be surprised how easy it is to red pill some of them, and any fresh ally is a swelling of our ranks.

WE HAVE THE BETTER ARGUMENT! There's no really valid reason why we should lose.

Social Security? Fucking CHILE has privatized social security, and it works like a champ. They've had it for decades, and it's a model that's not hard to follow. Da' fuq are we still using a failed model for? Because we destroy anybody who tries to change it, be they ours or theirs. Or because we allow the leftist media to paint it in deceptive ways. That's a narrative we can also change.

It's not impossible, it's just hard.


Oh, Lawdy, muh moral relativism!

What's that song say? "Nobody's right when everybody's wrong?"

If you take the position that 'freedom' means that everybody is equally correct and takes an equally valid position, you're misapplying the term and tossing our society into the shitter. Somebody's right, and somebody's wrong. Those in the right might not prevail, but that doesn't make them wrong. If you're unable or unwilling to take a side or make a stand, that doesn't make you a supporter of freedom, it makes you a patsy.


My friend is writing a series of books wherein the Shining Path is the chief antagonist of the heroes.

Wrong.

Now it's obvious you are being obtuse.

Now, to determine what your motive is....

Kind of a drag communists have all these training opportunities and facilities while the only thing I have is an indoor target range with an average wait time of 2 hours. I'm like 1 for 5 on being able to shoot when I've went there.

They're training while I'm sitting here watching TV. Oh well.

Right?

I wanna do any real training, I've got a 3 or 4 hour drive ahead of me, and even then, opportunities for live fire are very limited. I guess I just live in the wrong part of the state.

Join them undercover, shoot their ammo, and show them the wisdom of Yeager.

Worst article I've ever read, now that I've actually read it.

Written by a 'big fat liberal' in his own (correct) words and doesn't a even use the slightest amount of journalism.

But ya, throughout the article, keeps bashing 'right' people, even though he didn't cite any negative contact he's ever had with right wing militia style groups.

Shit article. Shit source. of a shit group.

He went looking for trouble and he found it. He got the sensationalism he wanted.

He's always like that.

The video is a hoot.  Bunch of commies run away because they're afraid of a reporter.

Maybe there should be a 'Prosecute Steve Lemons' petition for assaulting those poor people.

It's kind of strange. The whole point of a demonstration is to get publicity!

They were marching around downtown Phoenix with long arms. One can only assume the objective was
for people to notice them and talk about it. There's a reporter there to help spread the message, and
they were shocked and offended that he noticed and photographed them.

The participants just seem to be colossally stupid and easily manipulated.

And armed!

So....hooray.......

Remember, these fucktards actually BELIEVE they're living in NAZI Germany 2.0. They're probably terrified that somebody will tell the SS their license plate numbers and the death squads will scoop them up first thing 0-dark-thirty.

The fact that they're exposing their faces, congregating in public, and are members of a known group might tell US that they're not thinking clearly, but obviously, if they were capable of putting two and two together and not coming up with 'blue', they wouldn't BE these fucktards in the first place.

It's very curious, isn't it? Hell they had a propaganda table and everything.

They think Trump will institute the Nacht und Nebel decree.

The reporter wasn't cleared by them in advance, coached on what questions to ask and what video angles to cover.

The left expects the media to cooperate on each of those points.  Any reporter that refuses to cooperate, is blocked, harassed, and told to fuck off.

Really not surprising, when you think about it that way.

It's part of their fantasy that they're rebels fighting an evil totalitarian leviathan.

Dovetails nicely with the liberal mantra of the end justifies the means.

Attached File


I'm ready

To read real books?

Training manuals

So apparently all their guns are airsoft. Big discussion on Reditt according to folks following it there (talked about during an Open Carry walk around UofL)

That's a good way to get Tamir'd

D60s fit into airsoft guns?

Magpul licenses their designs for Airsoft.

Interesting.

Still, a dissipator with a D60 seems like a very....unlikely airsoft set up.

I think it was a shitty picture taken at an angle that people are over analyzing because they really, really, really want to imagine that no one on the left has guns.

Link, or at least which sub. The only discussion on reddit was from those people gloating about.

I'm leaning more towards airsoft, especially after seeing this video...

Yeah. These days ARs are cheaper than some airsoft guns. Leftists are all about enforcing their views via violence - from the government whenever possible, if not then their radical (and expendable) foot soldiers.

Odd that they only now showed up, acting like the prototypical Community Organizers, after Obama left office and went back into community organizing.

I was at work tonight(rso at a local indoor range) and 3 guys showed up. 2 with Marine Corps patches, and stuff but with knuckle tats and snidely whiplash mustashes. They brought a friend with a pony tail, and curly mustashe in seriously hipster skinny jeans.

Between the xd, SKS with a truglo rds, and a AR pistol with utg rds I was thinking about this thread.

I'm normally more helpful but I was hesitant. Even with the Marine Corps brotherhood thing I just couldn't do more than chit chat. Even though not a single gun could be zeroed.

Idk wtf is going on anymore

I don't expect the inevitable fight that both parties are pushing us toward will be as one sided as many here think.  I just pray that the side backing the Constitution has better intel, training and supply channels.

That SKS doesn't look like airsoft.

Yup.... plenty of leftists own guns, are in law enforcement, and the military. Also leftists would probably get support from across the globe via the media, UN, and other nation states. 

Like I said, just what I heard from folks who are on the Reddit /social media more than I am. If I find the links I'll post them. But it does give pause for thought. Generally young folks like this wouldn't spend money on high-end gear all of a sudden. Maybe a few folks are actually armed, but it's more than likely that they got a bunch of airsoft gear because it's way cheaper than real battlebelts and plate carriers.

http://fmshooter.com/members-of-antifa-gun-club-fishing-for-death-fake-gun-stunt/

links to

https://www.reddit.com/r/sadcringe/comments/6275vu/antifa_trying_to_scare_people_with_fake_guns/#bottom-comments

but the article has some interesting points

I go to law school in KY. we have several vets (both in the law school and the general campus) that are either anti-gun or are supporters of Hillary. Heck we have gun owners who are pro-Hillary and anti-gun (no AR15s, no carrying of guns, etc).

... and, if the SHTF ever, those Arizona fuckers will parish first

Yep. I remember about a dozen dudes from my old infantry company that were straight up, America hating, would machinegun all of us into a mass grave if they could, commies.

Many, many more in the NG too.

What I want to know is WTF kind of questions does DIA ask references for security clearances now a days? Back in the '80's early '90's a blatant commie would've had a hard time passing reference checks much less get in the military. Now we're crawling with them.

The DIA doesn't do clearances.

OPM does that stuff for DOD

I agree
Did not think  her rifle wasn't legit , it looks like most home builds you see at a gun show

Now the guy with the dissipater his rifle looks fucky ( dust cover looks weird  to me anyway )

IIRC infantry only requires a 'confidential' clearance, not sure they bother to call any references for that.

And don't forget that Bradley Manning held a top secret clearance.

It's hard to fathom why someone who hates a country and what it stands for would want to serve it and it's people.
Are most of them there to escape a bad situation at home where there is little to no hope or opportunity or to get the best military training in the world and hoping that one day they might get to use it against said country?