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Posted: 3/25/2017 11:06:59 PM EDT
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That is why threads like this are retarded. Every generation has heroes. Every generation has its worthless bottom feeders. There is nothing new under the sun. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 11:22:39 PM EDT
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There a lot of Boomer names on The Wall, including many of my brother Marines. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/25/2017 11:34:27 PM EDT
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I hesitate to ask which university this was, having grown up in that humid nightmare of a state.
I'm very grateful that I'm currently attending an engineering school; there is little to no SJW bullshit tolerated here aside from what RAs try and use to indoctrinate freshmen. The overall political climate is conservative-libertarian, split between rednecks and computer geeks. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 11:57:17 PM EDT
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No bias there. Look at the crowds Milo got. They weren't compromised solely of older folks and trigglypuffs.
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Posted: 3/26/2017 5:20:23 AM EDT
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We are talking two years, actually 1.5 years or less after training etc. And out of them there will still be med deferments etc, this would cause maybe 40-50% of them to serve. More people serving helps the nation regardless if anyone wants to admit it or not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is why i believe every swinging dick should have to serve 2 yrs in the military. And when i say serve, non of this BS new Army shit, old school getting smoked all night and moping the parking lot in the rain in full kit. My buddy begged me to be a JROTC instructor with him, after what he told me I would be fired/sued/or in jail for assault or murder before my first year was complete. Most people are not cut out for the military and no amount of yelling or hazing will change that, you'd just be wasting time and resources that could be better utilized elsewhere. Volunteer military is the way to go. with draconian leadership. Belive it or not pain equals compliance. Hell we can use them to pull details while the real Army trains. https://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sgt-zim.jpg Your idea is super moto but it's not practical. BTW all of the guys in Starship Troopers were volunteers. And out of them there will still be med deferments etc, this would cause maybe 40-50% of them to serve. More people serving helps the nation regardless if anyone wants to admit it or not. Wow, sounds like a DU style " it takes a village" solution. Why am I not surprised to be reading that on the 'small govt conservative" ARFCOM of today. 
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Posted: 3/26/2017 6:54:13 AM EDT
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Seriously. Sick and tired of the fucking boomers bitching...We get it...you think you're special...now go sit the fuck down and have your ovaltine. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 7:07:17 AM EDT
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Maybe the older generations shouldn't of ruined the American education system for money. Maybe the older generations should of hunted communist like dogs post ww1.
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Posted: 3/26/2017 7:27:22 AM EDT
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You don't have to tell us exactly where but knowing who the audience was would go a long way. To be honest, I'm a mid-30's guy who just wrapped up his undergrad degree this month and had your wife came in for one of my classes, it would have been "get shit done for my other classes" time. I'm not a retard nor someone who would open his yap to spew retarded shit but depending on why she was there, she might not get my full attention. Especially if it's supposed to be an informative talk that morphs into 20 questions. Not only could I name dates but also major battles, important figures, and the political impetus that created those conflicts. I just don't see the point if it was a law & policy class or an Econ class. But, I'm also not a "millennial" (even if I technically fall within the current definition of what years constitute the generation) and I guess I shouldn't have said shit. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 7:32:17 AM EDT
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This thread is top five stupidest shit I've seen all week
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Posted: 3/26/2017 7:37:24 AM EDT
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Simple OP, the government education system has taught these skulls full of putty the PC version of history vs. the history that is. Ask 'em why the Civil War started and see what I mean.
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Posted: 3/26/2017 7:40:59 AM EDT
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What was the class? Can she gain and maintain attention?
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:07:41 AM EDT
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I would say in all my history courses growing up in school we never made it past WWI.
I literally know nothing about the 20th century other than what I've learned on my own. This, of course, is mostly about wars, military technology, space, the US highway system, ad gun control. I have a very good understanding of these. I know very little about social movements, politics, and major acts of domestic legislation. Hell, I couldn't even place the presidents in the correct order between Taft and Reagan. Bottom line is: School has been shit for at least 3 decades, and 90% of people will not investigate history much on their own. When they do, it is usually: 1) History buffs, 2) People who are interested in a specific topic (say, military technology) and 3) People with some sort of political agenda. ETA::Oh, and my father has said the same thing about his siblings. 2 Sisters and a Brother. He says they don't know who fought in WW2. Same probably could be said about my mother. ETA2::Oh, and don't get me started on science. Physics, chemistry, biology, geology, astronomy, etc. Most people of any age (millennials all the way back to the greatest generation) probably would fail a high school science test if given a pop quiz today. (just like I'd almost certainly fail a pop spelling quiz :p) |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:18:51 AM EDT
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This is why i believe every swinging dick should have to serve 2 yrs in the military. And when i say serve, non of this BS new Army shit, old school getting smoked all night and moping the parking lot in the rain in full kit. My buddy begged me to be a JROTC instructor with him, after what he told me I would be fired/sued/or in jail for assault or murder before my first year was complete. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:19:46 AM EDT
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No way this is representative of the majority of college students. Must have been a community college or something.
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:33:46 AM EDT
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There are 30,000+ of them here. Not surprised in the least that was the first question. OMG, is this current generation stupid and self centered. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:37:16 AM EDT
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Are all the STEM proponents going to lament this lack of historical knowledge?
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:46:20 AM EDT
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Simple OP, the government education system has taught these skulls full of putty the PC version of history vs. the history that is. Ask 'em why the Civil War started and see what I mean. No, the civil war wasn't a just moral crusade to end slavery in the evil south, That is a myth. However, it is true that the central issue of the whole civil war was the fact that the south wanted to dissolve the union because they were afraid that they would lose the balance of power between slave and non-slave states, and thus, their states' rights to have legal slavery would be violated. Those are just the facts. "Slavery" is a more accurate description of what caused the civil war than "states rights", though the most precise answer includes both. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:47:59 AM EDT
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Are all the STEM proponents going to lament this lack of historical knowledge? Cursory history should be taught in middle and high school. At least when I was growing up, the 20th century was essentially ignored. Not saying people remember everything from these types of courses, but if the history is never covered, there is a 0% chance of them learning it. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:50:16 AM EDT
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My wife was teaching a class once and a kid asked her if she liked anal....it's a crapshoot in schools nowadays. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:02:18 AM EDT
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Are all the STEM proponents going to lament this lack of historical knowledge? Sounds like a group of non STEM majors. And I'm going to go out on a limb and guess their knowledge of physics was equally retarded. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:04:37 AM EDT
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Thread title should be "American schools suck". They've been taught (or not taught) all of that in school. Oh and by their Leftist parents. Take heart though, being right wing is the new counter culture and kids love counter culture, so there's hope yet. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:04:38 AM EDT
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Sounds about right from what I have seen of the current young adults. Lot less bright and shinning stars then in the past. We talking to a 14 year old last night and her goal was to graduate HS and live in a car. She thought she would just park in entry parking lots and bathe in bathrooms in stores.
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:05:20 AM EDT
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FALSE I'm a college student and like myself roughly 50% of the people in my classes are veterans. 
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:06:04 AM EDT
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Clearly you don't know anything about History...
Harry Potter and John Snow took their legions to Middle Earth to battle for the new Playstation 5. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:39:21 AM EDT
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Get both. Cursory history should be taught in middle and high school. At least when I was growing up, the 20th century was essentially ignored. Not saying people remember everything from these types of courses, but if the history is never covered, there is a 0% chance of them learning it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are all the STEM proponents going to lament this lack of historical knowledge? Cursory history should be taught in middle and high school. At least when I was growing up, the 20th century was essentially ignored. Not saying people remember everything from these types of courses, but if the history is never covered, there is a 0% chance of them learning it. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:49:14 AM EDT
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This. I remember watching Saving Private Ryan my senior year in high school because we ran out of time to cover the 20th century in depth. My teacher was a retired gunny. Along with Orwell's 1984. Those two have had a lifelong impact. And I am a millennial. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:50:34 AM EDT
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What was her answer ? 
I was once subbing a Jr high class. A girl asked me in front of the whole class "If I thought she had big boobs?" 
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:56:52 AM EDT
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Yes. Blame the young kids.
Not the Gen X and Boomers who have run the schools for decades. It is clearly the kids fault who have gone through a single election cycle. Also, fucking piece of shit everyone gets a trophy generation! Oh wait, the people handing out the trophies to every kid were adult Gen X and Boomers. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:00:20 AM EDT
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Certainly......there are plenty of idiots out there.
But, there are tons of college kids who are smart as hell. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:05:45 AM EDT
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I recently worked with some 30ish year old college graduates that could not place the Civil War, WWI, WWII, the Korean War, and the Vietnam war to within a decade, and who could not consistently get these conflicts in chronological order.
I got the feeling that they knew a lot about various designated victim groups and their history. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:08:27 AM EDT
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Are all the STEM proponents going to lament this lack of historical knowledge? |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:11:33 AM EDT
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Wife recently gave a presentation on veteran's law (primarily VA disability compensation and VA health care) to a bunch of 18-22yo college students. 30 minutes of presentation, 30 minutes of time for questions. During the presentation portion, she discovered the following: --none of them could tell her when the Vietnam War was. Not even which decade. --none of them could tell her which war followed World War I. --none of them knew that Selective Service registration for males to be conscripted still existed. THAT got the students' attention. --none of them knew anyone in their family who had served in the military. BUT! when she opened the floor for questions, the very first question was, "Why should we take care of veterans who served a racist government who is equivalent to ISIS in its policies overseas?" I SHIT YOU NOT, THE VERY FIRST QUESTION COMPARED VETERANS TO TERRORISTS AND THE US GOVERNMENT TO ISIS. And this is NOT a remarkably liberal college. The next several decades in which the Millenials (and earliest Gen Zs) rise to power will be a VERY ugly time in US history. BTW, the Millennial cohort (roughly 19-36yo) is even bigger than the Baby Boomers... Gen Z is alt-right. Get it? All-right puns. Gen Zyklon-b is more conservative than every generation since WWII. Seems they hate communist Millennials, know how to actually parse information better than them (look how retarded the fake news advice is, it's literally "fake copycat websites exist, don't use them). They're rebelling against the commies and the SJW's that are the modern mainstream. It'll be damn interesting to see what happens in 5 years as they come of age. http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/07/the-post-millennial-generation-should-worry-democrats/ http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/eric-metaxas/next-generation-americans-gen-z-may-be-most-conservative-wwii >Born between 1995 -2010, they’re fiscally conservative, staunchly supportive of personal freedoms, and strong on national security including counter-terrorism and cyber-security, with a hint of isolationism >In polling data collected by the Hispanic Heritage Foundation including 50,000 high-school students aged 14-18 just prior to the election, first time voters presented a 46% – 31% divide in favor of the Republican candidate with primary concerns being education, gun rights, and health care. > My College Options and the Hispanic Heritage Foundation (HHF) today presented the results of a new national survey of approximately 50,000 “Generation Z” high school students’ (ages 14-18) attitudes on the 2016 presidential election which found that the majority identify as Republicans – >Among Gen Z females we see the evaporation of a strong left/right gender divide with Trump coming out on top with by 3 points at 27% — 24%. Once again, education (50%), economy (33%), health care (24%), and gun rights (22%) most heavily weighted their opinion. >Males were more typical of the general population with 42% in favor of Trump vs 17% for Clinton. Economy (43%), education (34%), gun rights (33%) and terrorism (20%) serve as chief concerns. >A study focused on Gen Z in Britain discovered significantly more conservative views than millennials on issues such as marijuana legalization, trans-gender rights, and same-sex marriage. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:27:15 AM EDT
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To be fair, the Russian Civil War really isn't taught in American schools. Nor is the Irish War of Independence. The Second Anglo-Boer War, 1899–1902 The First World War, 1914–1918 The Russian Civil War, 1917–1922 The Irish War of Independence, 1919–1921 The Irish Civil War, 1922–1923 The Second World War, 1939–1945 |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:39:16 AM EDT
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I would say in all my history courses growing up in school we never made it past WWI. I literally know nothing about the 20th century other than what I've learned on my own. This, of course, is mostly about wars, military technology, space, the US highway system, ad gun control. I have a very good understanding of these. I know very little about social movements, politics, and major acts of domestic legislation. Hell, I couldn't even place the presidents in the correct order between Taft and Reagan. Bottom line is: School has been shit for at least 3 decades, and 90% of people will not investigate history much on their own. When they do, it is usually: 1) History buffs, 2) People who are interested in a specific topic (say, military technology) and 3) People with some sort of political agenda. ETA::Oh, and my father has said the same thing about his siblings. 2 Sisters and a Brother. He says they don't know who fought in WW2. Same probably could be said about my mother. ETA2::Oh, and don't get me started on science. Physics, chemistry, biology, geology, astronomy, etc. Most people of any age (millennials all the way back to the greatest generation) probably would fail a high school science test if given a pop quiz today. (just like I'd almost certainly fail a pop spelling quiz :p) We have graduates in my field that can't do a gram stain. Not all the fault of the students, it's been dumbed down so much, most of the science has been replaced by humanities. They can't even make a 70% solution using a 1L graduated cylinder.  Most of them have to take the ASCP test several times to pass it. I'm always happy when we hire people from the Philippines or other country, they are better educated and have a work ethic.
Millennials that I work with are the poster child of why people hate millennials. The laziness is the most glaring thing, they make the 70's potheads look hard working and ambitious. They complain about the pay, they make proportionally more out of school than others have in the past. Always the first to leave early. Always calling in. Never volunteering for extra hours or shifts when the opportunity presents itself. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:52:17 AM EDT
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No way this is representative of the majority of college students. Must have been a community college or something. You must have been under a rock when students were walking out of class to go to Ferguson or participate in some other rebel cause. When they are interviewed they don't even know what they are protesting against. The professors give extra credit for it. College is more or less just and indoctrination institution. One of my friends is a ranger/biologist at a large state park, he has to deal with the teaching establishment all the time. He's far from being a political person and he can't stand dealing with teachers, or liberals. He was never like this before. The last time he came to visit he was talking to the spouse unit and they were talking about how people get hired and don't even show up for work. In his case these are people that actually have "degrees" in biology and science. They have a snowballs chance in hell of getting a job and they don't even show up when the opportunity presents itself. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:55:02 AM EDT
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my 15 year old has been woken up since he was a little kid.
He's capable of holding debates with teachers, better than I sometimes. It helps I'm raising him in a very conservative county, but the 24 year olds out of Madistan still get hired sometimes, before the end of the semester I usually have a "talk" with them, they never seem to last long. His school has a solid base of 40-50 yr old conservative teachers, who get right to the truth in history and government classes. I've learned things from him that they taught him, the health teacher is a raging lib who is pissed we shut his bullshit down, heck the KIDS DO. I stay vigilant. I'm in my 2nd year of college, in an enviro sci program, most of the students I've had with me since the beginning, this is my 4th semester. they started as Kool Aid drinking doe eyed 20 something holey eared bastards and feminists. More than half I've successfully red pilled. they even openly supported Trump. One of my Professors, openly said "I like Plants" I'm starting to agree with you. you're right, this was after I chased the scool's sustainability expert from California out of the class, the topic was cap and trade. I took her apart brining up the pollution in these third world countries and that they are imposing contaminated coffee beans and fruits on us, at the expense of American farmers and pubic health, and pointing out that the goal is to lower our standards to that of the 3rd world. The battle is far from lost. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:56:00 AM EDT
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Sounds about right from what I have seen of the current young adults. Lot less bright and shinning stars then in the past. We talking to a 14 year old last night and her goal was to graduate HS and live in a car. She thought she would just park in entry parking lots and bathe in bathrooms in stores.
He is up on the current liberal social justice causes and global warming. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:59:58 AM EDT
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She asked which war the US was involved in subsequent to WWI. The answer was WWII, obviously. They couldn't even suggest the name of any war. But thanks for playing. The fact that none of the students could come up with that is chilling. ETA I was born in 1958, i.e. a mid-Boomer, part of the bulge in the snake that caused a sudden, massive expansion in capacity at local public schools. When I was in school, World War II was still sufficiently fresh in the minds of many living people that it was discussed often and in depth. I met MANY actual veterans, people who had immigrated from Europe, scientists who worked on the Manhattan Project, etc. And a lot of older men and women who didn't serve in the armed forces had supported the war effort by working at aircraft factories, ammo plants, etc. Several of my teachers were actual veterans. I got a very rich oral history of the era. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:03:37 AM EDT
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This is why i believe every swinging dick should have to serve 2 yrs in the military. And when i say serve, non of this BS new Army shit, old school getting smoked all night and moping the parking lot in the rain in full kit. My buddy begged me to be a JROTC instructor with him, after what he told me I would be fired/sued/or in jail for assault or murder before my first year was complete. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:05:10 AM EDT
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No you just have conscript Battalions rulled with draconian leadership. Belive it or not pain equals compliance. Hell we can use them to pull details while the real Army trains. https://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sgt-zim.jpg |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:06:42 AM EDT
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We are talking two years, actually 1.5 years or less after training etc. And out of them there will still be med deferments etc, this would cause maybe 40-50% of them to serve. More people serving helps the nation regardless if anyone wants to admit it or not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is why i believe every swinging dick should have to serve 2 yrs in the military. And when i say serve, non of this BS new Army shit, old school getting smoked all night and moping the parking lot in the rain in full kit. My buddy begged me to be a JROTC instructor with him, after what he told me I would be fired/sued/or in jail for assault or murder before my first year was complete. Most people are not cut out for the military and no amount of yelling or hazing will change that, you'd just be wasting time and resources that could be better utilized elsewhere. Volunteer military is the way to go. with draconian leadership. Belive it or not pain equals compliance. Hell we can use them to pull details while the real Army trains. https://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sgt-zim.jpg Your idea is super moto but it's not practical. BTW all of the guys in Starship Troopers were volunteers. And out of them there will still be med deferments etc, this would cause maybe 40-50% of them to serve. More people serving helps the nation regardless if anyone wants to admit it or not. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:14:15 AM EDT
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Do you think non STEM college graduates would display a greater knowledge of history? As for who's fault it is, it's not so much the fault of any one generation as it is the "progressive" movement which has been going on for some time now, at least since right before WWII when communism was established in Russia. During the great depression many US citizens emigrated to Russia because of the promise of "equality" and "fairness". McCarthy tried to warn us. We should have listened. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:16:26 AM EDT
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When I was in high school they were all taught including the Russo-Japanese War and First and Second Sino-Japanese wars but that was in the 60's and the history teachers were all conservatives. By the 90's WWI was barely covered and WWII was about Pearl Harbor and how we caused it because we didn't kow-tow to the Japanese. The other wars were never mentioned. My nephews never heard of the Rape of Nanking either. To say the public school educated them is a joke but boy did they get brainwashed with Collectivism. When I was in HS in the 60's I had a history teacher that was a staunch patriot. He said someday the government would try to put a gauge in peoples noses and charge them for the air they breathe. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:25:10 AM EDT
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My brother and I were in the Army and never saw or participated in the shit that you describe. My father served during and never saw it either. What old school are you writing about? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is why i believe every swinging dick should have to serve 2 yrs in the military. And when i say serve, non of this BS new Army shit, old school getting smoked all night and moping the parking lot in the rain in full kit. My buddy begged me to be a JROTC instructor with him, after what he told me I would be fired/sued/or in jail for assault or murder before my first year was complete. Good leadership could handle draftees, heck some might like it after a while. Yet we don't have the money to fund it so let the kids do what they want. The money part makes sense there needs to be some incentive to get more people to join like you can't serve in the government without military service 
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:55:00 AM EDT
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I would say in all my history courses growing up in school we never made it past WWI. I literally know nothing about the 20th century other than what I've learned on my own. This, of course, is mostly about wars, military technology, space, the US highway system, ad gun control. I have a very good understanding of these. I know very little about social movements, politics, and major acts of domestic legislation. Hell, I couldn't even place the presidents in the correct order between Taft and Reagan. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 12:02:30 PM EDT
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BUT! when she opened the floor for questions, the very first question was, "Why should we take care of veterans who served a racist government who is equivalent to ISIS in its policies overseas?" I SHIT YOU NOT, THE VERY FIRST QUESTION COMPARED VETERANS TO TERRORISTS AND THE US GOVERNMENT TO ISIS. And this is NOT a remarkably liberal college. I'd have lost my shit |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 12:08:56 PM EDT
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Go sit on your lawn and yell at clouds
Not all of us are like that. Plus, it's your generations fault for teaching them and letting them be taught shit. Ironically my family is very liberal. I on the other hand, am not... 
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Posted: 3/26/2017 12:28:45 PM EDT
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... there needs to be some incentive to get more people to join like you can't serve in the government without military service |
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