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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:34:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:34:59 AM EDT
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Ryan's shit leadership didn't bother me much until someone reminded me he is 3rd in line to the Presidency.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:39:14 AM EDT
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Ryan the worst?  Even worse that the child rapist Dennis Hastert?

Hastert needs to be feeding the worms.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:39:56 AM EDT
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No matter your personal beliefs, no matter what any politician, or media pundit, or trusted friend has told you, This government is in it for only one thing.......personal power.

From the first year unpaid intern willing to do untold degrading things behind closed doors, to the top men in charge of all things in government.......they all lust with wild abandon one thing.

PERSONAL POWER!!

Trump may or may not be corrupted as ALL those working around him, but in the end it really doesn't matter. He will be powerless to change the culture and corruption that is all things government in America.

Government is the embodiment of all things that is wrong with humans. The need to control others by power and by point of sword. PERIOD.

It is the poisonous fruit that once consumed....consumes the person who partook of it.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:40:20 AM EDT
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Well yes...........I wasn't thinking about personal lives though.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:43:40 AM EDT
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They ALL suck.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:46:01 AM EDT
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Ryan would NEVER support that......................OH WAIT!!
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The seeds of the looming crisis were planted when the Republicans cut off the use of general revenue to finance payments to insurance companies which were losing money on individual policies.

Everyone who was paying attention knew that the Obamacare tax on the profitable companies wasn't generating enough money to continue the subsidies.
Everyone who was paying attention knew that when the subsidies ended the result would be skyrocketing premiums and carriers who stopped writing policies.

Ryan supported that provision in the continuing spending bill.

Some of these people really do play chess.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:51:18 AM EDT
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Well yes...........I wasn't thinking about personal lives though.
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Ryan the worst?  Even worse that the child rapist Dennis Hastert?

Hastert needs to be feeding the worms.
Well yes...........I wasn't thinking about personal lives though.
Ole Denny mixed his personal life with his political life.
He made a lot of money when Congress passed a bill which funded a highway in Illinois and specified the location where that highway was to be built.
By complete coincidence, the highway was to be located on the border of some property Denny and his family had purchased not long before the bill passed.

Denny and the family sold the property not too long after the bill passed.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:53:22 AM EDT
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Ole Denny mixed his personal life with his political life.
He made a lot of money when Congress passed a bill which funded a highway in Illinois and specified the location where that highway was to be built.
By complete coincidence, the highway was to be located on the border of some property Denny and his family had purchased not long before the bill passed.

Denny and the family sold the property not too long after the bill passed.
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Ok...........Denny is RISING by orders of magnitude!!!!
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:59:00 AM EDT
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Newt needs to come back,, but with a electrocution collar so if he says anything about restricting guns he gets it.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 11:21:33 AM EDT
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Pelosi was one of the best for her party, although she was the antithesis of everything we hold dear. Republicans elect the worst speakers.
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I said that when she was speaker. She was incredible at what she did.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 11:25:51 AM EDT
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Anyone is better than boner was.

Truth is, it's a thankless job and one that isn't likely to attract the best.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 11:26:47 AM EDT
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Anyone is better than boner was.

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Ryan SUCKS!!!
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:03:36 PM EDT
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One of The most irritating things about modern politics is the hysterical rhetoric from both sides, and on every topic. For example, it is not enough to say that you dislike or disagree with Obama (or Trump, Bush, etc). Disagreement doesn't even begin to cover it. They have to be the worst in HISTORY, the literal reincarnation of the most despicable men to have ever lived. The same applies to every law or proposal or statement made by any politician anywhere. Nor does it even matter how irrelevant the subject or tepid the position, it is always ALWAYS screeched from the rooftops in language and tones that one might properly use to report the slaughter of the innocent.

Paul Ryan is, like virtually every politician down through the ages, a weasel. That's all. He is not a particularly interesting weasel in any sense. That's about all anyone can objectively say about him.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:09:02 PM EDT
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I can't believe you guys are reveling in this victory. 

Obamacare has been a disaster for consumers of health insurance. What do you think is going to happen when the insurance markets collapse and the law is still in effect? 

You're driving the truck off the cliff and celebrating that you dodged the pothole. 
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:18:08 PM EDT
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"Reform".
In the direction of government controlled, government paid medical treatment. Call it AmeriCare, or perhaps FediCare.

The plan is sufficiently flexible to absorb minor setbacks without upsetting the scheme.
The timetable has never been written in stone.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:19:24 PM EDT
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The biggest mystery in my head right now is why none of you seem to see the blatantly obvious biting you on your noses. 

Obamacare was never meant to be the Democrat's solution, remember? It was engineered to fail so that it would destroy the health insurance market and they could replace it with a single payer system. Do you not remember any of this? 

The Ryan bill would have repealed Obamacare before that disaster struck. Now the disaster is imminent, and Trump isn't going to lift another finger to fix it until after it explodes. Why do you think that is going to be a good outcome for people who have health insurance? 
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:20:19 PM EDT
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We are being played.......there are not 2 political parties......you are watching an orchestrated "game".......where they make $ and we pay and pay and pay!
Paul Ryan is simply playing the part written for him!
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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:49:50 PM EDT
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The biggest mystery in my head right now is why none of you seem to see the blatantly obvious biting you on your noses. 

Obamacare was never meant to be the Democrat's solution, remember? It was engineered to fail so that it would destroy the health insurance market and they could replace it with a single payer system. Do you not remember any of this? 

The Ryan bill would have repealed Obamacare before that disaster struck. Now the disaster is imminent, and Trump isn't going to lift another finger to fix it until after it explodes. Why do you think that is going to be a good outcome for people who have health insurance? 
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The biggest mystery in my head right now is why the fuck didn't the democraps vote for Ryan's bill!!??
The biggest mystery in my head right now is why none of you seem to see the blatantly obvious biting you on your noses. 

Obamacare was never meant to be the Democrat's solution, remember? It was engineered to fail so that it would destroy the health insurance market and they could replace it with a single payer system. Do you not remember any of this? 

The Ryan bill would have repealed Obamacare before that disaster struck. Now the disaster is imminent, and Trump isn't going to lift another finger to fix it until after it explodes. Why do you think that is going to be a good outcome for people who have health insurance? 
Stop saying that this bill would have repealed Obamacare. This wasn't a repeal. If Obamacare is going to fail than this bill would have as well considering it only made a few changes to Obamacare and kept the rest in place. Unless of course you think that Obamacare will work if it just gets a couple tweaks.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:01:00 PM EDT
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Fuck yes it was. What a dumbshit decision by Trump to go after this shit. This is being called by historians as possibly the worst "first one hundred days" in Presidential history.  Because they chose to anchor so much credibility and political capital to this giant turd of a doomed bill.

When they could have picked a whole shitload of other things to go after that would have passed.

but nope. 
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It was a shit bill
Fuck yes it was. What a dumbshit decision by Trump to go after this shit. This is being called by historians as possibly the worst "first one hundred days" in Presidential history.  Because they chose to anchor so much credibility and political capital to this giant turd of a doomed bill.

When they could have picked a whole shitload of other things to go after that would have passed.

but nope. 
I agree it was a terrible bill.    But why on earth do you care what some smarmy, mealy mouthed, lying media/"historian" labels it as?!?!?    Do you also believe them when they say any of us who voted for Trump are racist KKK members and republicans want to starve old people?      I literally can't understand why you would assign any weight or merit to something a bunch of liars happen to whine about.  
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:07:03 PM EDT
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FPR


...that is a very funny avatar.  Fantastic!
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:25:16 PM EDT
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Not sure he's worse than Boehner was.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:27:00 PM EDT
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Because they want to leave Obamacare intact. Ryan's bill would have gotten rid of the individual mandate.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:28:07 PM EDT
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I still consider him just slightly better than Clown Boner but that ain't saying much.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:31:06 PM EDT
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Ive escorted him and his family numerous times. Nice guy and nice family.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:32:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:35:23 PM EDT
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I don't blame Ryan for this failure.
I blame the  freedom caucus.

I'm saying this as a conservative.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:46:33 PM EDT
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Ive escorted him and his family numerous times. Nice guy and nice family.
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Next time you see him, tell him HKH says fuck off and die.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:48:17 PM EDT
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Well, Hastert touched boys so I guess he's the worst.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 3:05:25 PM EDT
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I wasnt escorting him as myself so I'd have nothing personal to say to him. I'd have a hard time finding ANY politician I liked.

He's after the VP in succession and I was acting as a professional, and no dont ask me where or when.

Politics never brings out the good in people. I'm fiercely to the right yet I dont like Politics.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 3:09:17 PM EDT
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Even though its considered a failure I would look at like this - it was bad bill too much of an entitlement we can't afford, it's best it goes down and start over.  Listen to Mo Brooks and rand Paul.  I want trump to have a win but fuck it.   Short term hit is all move on
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 3:13:18 PM EDT
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Most Republicans suck just as bad as Dems these days.  Ryan is no exception.
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You're right. They should just join Democrats to form a coalition supermajority and consign the far right to a lifetime of inconsequential noise.


I'm not sure why so many people here don't understand that most Republicans are not hard right conservatives.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 3:17:41 PM EDT
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Yeah, he sucks.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 3:22:51 PM EDT
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His healthcare bill intended to screw Trump.  I don't think Ryan wants the Republicans to be the majority party, and I don't think he wants Trump to win in 2020. 

He's a self-serving scumbag driven only by his own interests.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 3:27:40 PM EDT
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"Reform".
In the direction of government controlled, government paid medical treatment. Call it AmeriCare, or perhaps FediCare.

The plan is sufficiently flexible to absorb minor setbacks without upsetting the scheme.
The timetable has never been written in stone.
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What do you think is going to happen when the insurance markets collapse and the law is still in effect? 
"Reform".
In the direction of government controlled, government paid medical treatment. Call it AmeriCare, or perhaps FediCare.

The plan is sufficiently flexible to absorb minor setbacks without upsetting the scheme.
The timetable has never been written in stone.
I've thought this since the thing was passed.  It was designed to fail and be replaced with single payer.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 5:12:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 5:20:39 PM EDT
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it looks like Ryan's ultimate goal was to ensure that nothing changed with regard to Obamacare.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 5:21:48 PM EDT
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Let me know when we have an actual Republican Speaker again, Ryan is just another in a line of Progressives posing as a Republican Speaker.

In other words he sucks as a Republican Speaker because he isn't one.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 5:27:53 PM EDT
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Look up the pay and pension for the Speaker vs. regular reps and you will see your two sentences directly conflict.

Also, this kind of thing is a feature of our form of government-not a bug-and it's the only thing that saved us from draconian (or any!) gun control during much of Obama's terms.

Many of you need to learn how our government works before braying.
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His healthcare bill intended to screw Trump.  I don't think Ryan wants the Republicans to be the majority party, and I don't think he wants Trump to win in 2020. 

He's a self-serving scumbag driven only by his own interests.
Look up the pay and pension for the Speaker vs. regular reps and you will see your two sentences directly conflict.

Also, this kind of thing is a feature of our form of government-not a bug-and it's the only thing that saved us from draconian (or any!) gun control during much of Obama's terms.

Many of you need to learn how our government works before braying.
If you think Ryan is only in it for the relatively meager congressional paycheck you're live in a world of make believe. 

This bill, which a) would not have repealed Obamacare, b) would increase premiums, and c) would throw ten million off of medicare, was the most obvious example of political suicide I've ever seen.  It was sabotage.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:15:03 PM EDT
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He's Boehner Light at this point but at the rate he's going, he'll surpass the fake and baked fucktard in no time.
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Why yes - exactly right.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:17:40 PM EDT
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He's Boehner Light at this point but at the rate he's going, he'll surpass the fake and baked fucktard in no time.
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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:26:13 PM EDT
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Could be but Ryan has the House, Senate and President in republican hands and this is one of the BIGGEST entitlements Americans want repealed and replaced and he fucking TOTALLY failed.

That would be like not being able to have a winning baseball season as the manager of team consisting of ALL Hall of Famers.
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I would imagine that in 7 years time, the GOPe has several replacement versions written and ready to go. Just like Pelosi always has gun grabbing shit ready to exploit mass shootings.

I'm thinking the GOPe dangled the carrot...Trump jumped on-board and declared 'remove and replace' to be a done deal...and Ryan et al intentionally left him swinging in the breeze. It appears the GOPe is going to obfuscate and throw Trump under the bus at every opportunity, and that's been their plan all along.  
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Meanwhile McCain is in the heart of the Globalists capital bad mouthing Trump while kissing his NWO master's tuchas...
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I never knew how to spell tuchas Thx.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:35:02 PM EDT
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His healthcare bill intended to screw Trump.  I don't think Ryan wants the Republicans to be the majority party, and I don't think he wants Trump to win in 2020. 

He's a self-serving scumbag driven only by his own interests.
Look up the pay and pension for the Speaker vs. regular reps and you will see your two sentences directly conflict.

Also, this kind of thing is a feature of our form of government-not a bug-and it's the only thing that saved us from draconian (or any!) gun control during much of Obama's terms.

Many of you need to learn how our government works before braying.
If you think Ryan is only in it for the relatively meager congressional paycheck you're live in a world of make believe. 

This bill, which a) would not have repealed Obamacare, b) would increase premiums, and c) would throw ten million off of medicare, was the most obvious example of political suicide I've ever seen.  It was sabotage.
As you pretend to know about these things please explain how more could be done without 60 votes.
He didn't have support from his own party let alone the Democrats.  The bill was pulled because it was a turd without any chance of passing...but it was just enough theater to damage Trump and his agenda moving forward, just as I suspect Ryan intended. 

BTW, Ryan runs the House, not the Senate, so the 60 votes thing doesn't apply here. 
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:35:03 PM EDT
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Ryan has his own global agenda he's pushing.  He's  no friend to conservatives.  

He sucks.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:39:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 10:39:26 PM EDT
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ryan 2020
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 11:00:46 PM EDT
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Ryan can prove his loyalty to the American people by sitting on a can of tannerite at the Knob Creek Turkey Shoot.  We all need martyrs - preferably from the useless class.
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