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Posted: 3/25/2017 12:27:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2017 12:28:42 AM EDT
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sucks but according to the story another car was at fault so I doubt much will come of this. Even self-driving cars are vulnerable to idiots
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Posted: 3/25/2017 12:31:59 AM EDT
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That'll buff out.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 12:33:29 AM EDT
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Im glad it happened!
Also glad no one got hurt. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 1:30:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2017 2:23:47 AM EDT
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Self driving cars don't give a fuck.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 2:32:41 AM EDT
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I don't see how they couldn't. I mean for example, you could write into the code that anytime a car flips you over, you remember it's tag, then when you see that tag number again you ram the car in the rear. 
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:21:12 AM EDT
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LMAO that is (was) a pretty expensive XC90.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:39:12 AM EDT
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We have soooo many "self-driving" cars in Tempe/Chandler.
In the last couple of months, I'm pretty sure I have seen at least one, if not 2-3, every time I've been on the road. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:40:13 AM EDT
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We have soooo many "self-driving" cars in Tempe/Chandler. I can't remember the last time I went somewhere and didn't see at least one. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:41:04 AM EDT
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Van #556 was involved in a traffic incident as well.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:42:14 AM EDT
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LMAO that is (was) a pretty expensive XC90. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:42:14 AM EDT
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how's the milf situation out there |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:17:13 AM EDT
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so how quickly do you drill thru the menus on your smartphone, strapped in at 90 degrees, to ask for assistance with your uber car, and how long until they respond? It's not like you can get a human on the phone.
right, like 45-50 minutes before anyone who might give a shit at Uber even knew about it. Fuck it, we don't pay for taxi medallions, we don't respond to crashes caused by our tech, let the first responders do it, our lawyers will clean it up. Using your towns infrastructure to keep our profits up, and in court, summary judgements will be kept lower, or it will get around we pulled Uber out of your city. I didn't like Hillary stealing an election, and I don't like Uber stealing money either. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 1:02:12 PM EDT
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Fantastic. Yoga pants in the "winter" and now spandex shorts and sundresses as we start hitting +90F. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how's the milf situation out there It's really Basic Bitch Mecca. Mucho MILFs |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 1:03:31 PM EDT
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In before "Uber is the most ethically challenged company in the world."
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Posted: 3/25/2017 1:05:42 PM EDT
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how's the milf situation out there 
Unless you have big bucks, we 50 somethings are getting the leftovers. Sad... TC |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 1:26:54 PM EDT
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so how quickly do you drill thru the menus on your smartphone, strapped in at 90 degrees, to ask for assistance with your uber car, and how long until they respond? It's not like you can get a human on the phone. right, like 45-50 minutes before anyone who might give a shit at Uber even knew about it. Fuck it, we don't pay for taxi medallions, we don't respond to crashes caused by our tech, let the first responders do it, our lawyers will clean it up. Using your towns infrastructure to keep our profits up, and in court, summary judgements will be kept lower, or it will get around we pulled Uber out of your city. I didn't like Hillary stealing an election, and I don't like Uber stealing money either. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 1:53:18 PM EDT
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Fantastic. Yoga pants in the "winter" and now spandex shorts and sundresses as we start hitting +90F. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how's the milf situation out there One of my clients was wearing her lululemons running shorts yesterday. Oh yeah! 
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Posted: 3/25/2017 1:57:59 PM EDT
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It must have been taught to drive by a Zonie.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 2:11:08 PM EDT
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It must have been taught to drive by a Zonie. Which is what happened here. The Uber car is not at fault. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 2:15:52 PM EDT
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A driverless car will be way more competent than many human drivers I see.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 2:22:46 PM EDT
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A driverless car will be way more competent than many human drivers I see. HOWEVER They get into accidents from following the law and expecting other traffic to do the same.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 2:55:53 PM EDT
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The self driving car was not at fault but keep babbling away Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so how quickly do you drill thru the menus on your smartphone, strapped in at 90 degrees, to ask for assistance with your uber car, and how long until they respond? It's not like you can get a human on the phone. right, like 45-50 minutes before anyone who might give a shit at Uber even knew about it. Fuck it, we don't pay for taxi medallions, we don't respond to crashes caused by our tech, let the first responders do it, our lawyers will clean it up. Using your towns infrastructure to keep our profits up, and in court, summary judgements will be kept lower, or it will get around we pulled Uber out of your city. I didn't like Hillary stealing an election, and I don't like Uber stealing money either. When was the last time Lee Iocca responded to a K-car pile up? Using the infrastructure, I assume you mean the roads, traffic signals/signs ect? You do realize this is after extensive closed track testing, Right? What's not "OK" about that? |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 2:56:47 PM EDT
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sucks but according to the story another car was at fault so I doubt much will come of this. Even self-driving cars are vulnerable to idiots |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:53:40 PM EDT
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All self-driving cars should be painted either fluorescent screaming prisoner jump suit orange, or fluorescent screaming puke green, so that people can get the fuck out of the way.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:55:18 PM EDT
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All self-driving cars should be painted either fluorescent screaming prisoner jump suit orange, or fluorescent screaming puke green, so that people can get the fuck out of the way. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:02:59 PM EDT
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The thing that's going to be the most annoying attribute of this transition, is going to be the reporting of EVERY accident across the country involving self-driving cars.
We'll ignore that fact that 2,440,000 people were injured, and 32,777 were killed in accidents caused by human drivers in 2016. Few of those will make the national news. But we're going to hear about all three accidents involving, (not even caused by....just involving) self-driving cars. 
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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:05:42 PM EDT
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All self-driving cars should be painted either fluorescent screaming prisoner jump suit orange, or fluorescent screaming puke green, so that people can get the fuck out of the way. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:13:43 PM EDT
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Self-driving cars are better than human drivers. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:22:17 PM EDT
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The thing that's going to be the most annoying attribute of this transition, is going to be the reporting of EVERY accident across the country involving self-driving cars. We'll ignore that fact that 2,440,000 people were injured, and 32,777 were killed in accidents caused by human drivers in 2016. Few of those will make the national news. But we're going to hear about all three accidents involving, (not even caused by....just involving) self-driving cars. There was a lot more than 3 a year... I'm torn about the whole thing. I know they will be better than the majority of people driving today but instincts and preemptive defensive driving from a competent driver is more useful than sensors and a computer trying to react to an oblivious driver. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 5:35:00 PM EDT
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look I tried to delete the mention in my inbox, I don't know how this works, and it said reported user. It was some kind of mistake.
yeah I went off because I seriously do not care for Uber, point whatever mod looms on your doorstep for the report to this post, or to me. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 8:21:27 PM EDT
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sucks but according to the story another car was at fault so I doubt much will come of this. Even self-driving cars are vulnerable to idiots |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 9:10:56 PM EDT
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Not if everyone had a self driving car. Its coming too. The states will simply stop issuing drivers licenses to "civilians". Driving will become a felony. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 9:11:37 PM EDT
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Not if everyone had a self driving car. Its coming too. In the case of self-driving cars, there's already a substantial improvement over human drivers, and the technology is improving. Human drivers injured over 2 million people in 2016, killing over 37 thousand. I do believe eventually we'll have certain roads where manual control is prohibited. But that won't be for at least a couple of decades. But the again, I think it will just be integrated to the point that even in manual mode, the bot will step in and prevent the human driver from screwing up, a more advanced version of the collision avoidance systems, adaptive cruise control, and blind spot systems already present in cars today. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 10:27:19 PM EDT
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Self driving car sales likely increase in Utah.
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Posted: 3/26/2017 3:40:25 AM EDT
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That's the weird thing about these kinds of threads. Some seem to be making the argument that if a technology isn't perfect, it shouldn't be adopted. But it doesn't have to be perfect. Nothing is perfect. All it has to be is slightly better than humans, and it will replace humans in a given task. What will be interesting is to watch is when the tech will be adopted and how quickly it becomes a requirement because the whole chicken and the egg dilemma. Autonomous vehicles won't be able to drop vehicular fatalities to almost zero due to human error. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 3:52:49 AM EDT
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That's the weird thing about these kinds of threads. Some seem to be making the argument that if a technology isn't perfect, it shouldn't be adopted. But it doesn't have to be perfect. Nothing is perfect. All it has to be is slightly better than humans, and it will replace humans in a given task. In the case of self-driving cars, there's already a substantial improvement over human drivers, and the technology is improving. Human drivers injured over 2 million people in 2016, killing over 37 thousand. I do believe eventually we'll have certain roads where manual control is prohibited. But that won't be for at least a couple of decades. But the again, I think it will just be integrated to the point that even in manual mode, the bot will step in and prevent the human driver from screwing up, a more advanced version of the collision avoidance systems, adaptive cruise control, and blind spot systems already present in cars today. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 4:17:12 AM EDT
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Fuck Uber, Fuck AI cars, etc... keep that shit off the roads.
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Posted: 3/26/2017 4:57:20 AM EDT
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That's the weird thing about these kinds of threads. Some seem to be making the argument that if a technology isn't perfect, it shouldn't be adopted. But it doesn't have to be perfect. Nothing is perfect. All it has to be is slightly better than humans, and it will replace humans in a given task. In the case of self-driving cars, there's already a substantial improvement over human drivers, and the technology is improving. Human drivers injured over 2 million people in 2016, killing over 37 thousand. I do believe eventually we'll have certain roads where manual control is prohibited. But that won't be for at least a couple of decades. But the again, I think it will just be integrated to the point that even in manual mode, the bot will step in and prevent the human driver from screwing up, a more advanced version of the collision avoidance systems, adaptive cruise control, and blind spot systems already present in cars today. How long have we had "self driving cars"? When was the last time you were involved in a car collision? I know that I have managed to operate vehicles without an incident for FAR longer than self driving cars have been on the road. There is something to be said for a human's ability to react to another human's poor decision making. Until driverless cars improve… I certainly won't be riding in one. In fact… I will continue to oppose such ignorant sacrifices of freedom and control over individual lives. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 6:38:17 AM EDT
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But in this case we are talking about human life and the technology has to be near perfect before we see widespread adoption and then, eventually, autonomous vehicles becoming mandatory. What will be interesting is to watch is when the tech will be adopted and how quickly it becomes a requirement because the whole chicken and the egg dilemma. Autonomous vehicles won't be able to drop vehicular fatalities to almost zero due to human error. This is true of all technology. However, in the case of self-driving cars they're already substantially better than human drivers, and they're getting better all the time. A human driver doesn't have the sensory capacity, or reaction speed of a self-driving system. A self-driving car doesn't get distracted, or tired. Self-driving systems are already being used in many vehicles, and they perform better than humans. Within the next 10 years, most new vehicles will have self-driving systems as standard options, and within 20 years, autonomous autos will dominate the market. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 7:32:40 AM EDT
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The overwhelming majority of accidents they've been involved in, the autonomous cars have not been at fault. HOWEVER They get into accidents from following the law and expecting other traffic to do the same. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A driverless car will be way more competent than many human drivers I see. HOWEVER They get into accidents from following the law and expecting other traffic to do the same. The shortcoming with self-driving cars is that they religiously obey the rules when other drivers don't. It's particularly bad on on-ramp merges. If you're going 70 in a 55 in the right lane, the self-drivers are still like, "Fuck you, I'm comin' in at 50!" |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:40:46 AM EDT
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I just spent almost a year assisting our auto liability dept. The shortcoming with self-driving cars is that they religiously obey the rules when other drivers don't. It's particularly bad on on-ramp merges. If you're going 70 in a 55 in the right lane, the self-drivers are still like, "Fuck you, I'm comin' in at 50!" With that said, what autos are you talking about. It really depends on the system. Google's and Tesla's collision avoidance systems are dynamic. They attempt to maintain a safe distance between obstacles, including emotional drivers who are exceeding the speed limit, recklessly driving, and following too close. These systems aren't running on rails. By that I mean they're not just following pre programmed routes, they're reacting to other drivers, and changing traffic and road conditions. On the same day this one accident which a self-driving auto was involved, made national news, over 5400 people were injured, and over 100 killed by HUMAN drivers in the United States ....none of which made the national news. Isn't it amazing how the media can set the narrative, and distort reality? |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:02:53 AM EDT
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Have fun with that shit trying to drive through construction zones or emergency lane closures.
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Posted: 3/26/2017 1:29:48 PM EDT
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Have fun with that shit trying to drive through construction zones or emergency lane closures. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:56:20 PM EDT
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Have fun with that shit trying to drive through construction zones or emergency lane closures. From the article: "Uber and Tempe Police have confirmed that Uber has now suspended the pilot program in Arizona, San Francisco and Pittsburgh for driverless cars. " |
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