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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 12:30:03 AM EDT
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When I was in high school, it seems like the breed of choice for the "culture of poverty" crowd was Rottweilers.

But now it's pits. There's something psychological between people who feel disenfranchised and misunderstood, that draws them towards that breed. I've seen it in my employees and even my own family. It's more than just the "tough" aspect. It's the underdog mentality or something.

I'll take a Dobie or a Rottie any day.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 12:33:07 AM EDT
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All 35ish a year? A statistical whoopty-fuckin-doo
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35 fatal dog attacks a year, 28 are caused by pits..

Woop woop...
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 12:36:30 AM EDT
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The CDC's report on dog bites showed 4+ million bites per year in the US, but didn't show a single breed that was worse than others.  You're believing the media's exaggerations.z
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Kill every single one of them.  Worthless shit breed.
The CDC's report on dog bites showed 4+ million bites per year in the US, but didn't show a single breed that was worse than others.  You're believing the media's exaggerations.z
and you're drinking the kool-aid.  The CDC counts all "bites".  Pit Bulls don't bite, they maul.  I responded to countless dog "bites" in my time in law enforcement, but I remember every single one done by a Pit.  They were all BAD and almost always involved children and the head, face, neck.  That's not a media exaggeration, that's my personal experience.  Thanks for playing.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 12:38:35 AM EDT
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What do they say about fatal dog attacks?

Yeah.....
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This is the problem. Nobody cares about little nips from lapdogs. Even a normal pet breed usually bites with front canines and then backs up. Pits instinctively know how to bite, deep in the jaw, to get a crushing full mouth hold. They are good at it, because they were bred to be good at it...its not just propensity to bite, but rather their ability in biting thats the problem. They are more likely to produce severe and disfiguring injuries than say a lab. It is what it is, and its not the dogs fault as its what they were bred to do.

If they were extinct it would be fine by me. There is nothing they do other dogs cant do better, except the one skill they earn their reputation from.

That, and the many instances of just flipping a switch one day out of the blue makes them a very poor choice for a pet.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 12:43:40 AM EDT
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What do they say about fatal dog attacks?

Yeah.....
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The CDC's report on dog bites showed 4+ million bites per year in the US, but didn't show a single breed that was worse than others.  You're believing the media's exaggerations.z
What do they say about fatal dog attacks?

Yeah.....
For 2015: 34 total

25 pit bull or pitbull mix
4 unknown
2 rottweiler
1 police dog
1 boxer mix
1 shepard/retreiver mix

For 2016 (data only posted for first half of the year): 14 total

12 pit bull or pitbull mix
1 labrador/shepard mix
1 multiple dogs including labrador retriever-great Pyrenees mix and husky-Australian cattle dog mix
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 12:51:41 AM EDT
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35 fatal dog attacks a year, 28 are caused by pits..

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All 35ish a year? A statistical whoopty-fuckin-doo
35 fatal dog attacks a year, 28 are caused by pits..

Woop woop...
And twice as many people die from lightning strikes each year. Whoop whoop.

A statistically irrelevant number in a country of over 324 million.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 12:57:56 AM EDT
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The dipshit neighbors pit bull got my wife's weiner dog week before last. I had to have both her upper jaw bones removed, almost all her teeth were lost and her nasal cavities had to be stitched up because the were ripped open to her mouth. I also had to pay to have their fence repaired again to try and insure that dog doesn't get in my yard again. This is the second time in two years. Last time it put holes all in my schnauzer and removed several pieces of his mouth. It's sad after all these years I'm too scared to let my daughter play in the backyard anymore. I think I'm going to take my attorneys advice and we will be sending something to the base commander since they don't seem to care.
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At that point it's either COC violation or COC violation but that dog wouldn't be a threat to me and mine ever again.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:26:12 AM EDT
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And twice as many people die from lightning strikes each year. Whoop whoop.

A statistically irrelevant number in a country of over 324 million.
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Its not irrelevant at all. Every person who isnt bedridden spent time outside last year, but not every single person in the United States owns a pitbull. If they did, deaths by pitbull would far outnumber lightning strikes.

Your statement is like saying I shouldn't worry about gun safety or muzzle control because the number of accidental gun deaths are statistically insignificant in a country of over 300 million people. That would obviously be irresponsible. Your emotional attachment, or not wanting to be wrong  clouds your judgment.

Why not just own the facts and admit you will do what you want regardless?
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:26:43 AM EDT
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I had a mutt once that was a shepherd/hound mix and it was my young son's job to feed and water the dog. I witnessed the dog try to bite him in the face and promptly tied the dog on the back of my truck, took it to my uncles farm and put 3 rounds of 30/06 into it's chest. Any dog that bites a human or tries to bite a human for no reason should be put down.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 1:50:41 AM EDT
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Its not irrelevant at all. Every person who isnt bedridden spent time outside last year, but not every single person in the United States owns a pitbull. If they did, deaths by pitbull would far outnumber lightning strikes.

Your statement is like saying I shouldn't worry about gun safety or muzzle control because the number of accidental gun deaths are statistically insignificant in a country of over 300 million people. That would obviously be irresponsible. Your emotional attachment, or not wanting to be wrong  clouds your judgment.

Why not just own the facts and admit you will do what you want regardless?
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And twice as many people die from lightning strikes each year. Whoop whoop.

A statistically irrelevant number in a country of over 324 million.
Its not irrelevant at all. Every person who isnt bedridden spent time outside last year, but not every single person in the United States owns a pitbull. If they did, deaths by pitbull would far outnumber lightning strikes.

Your statement is like saying I shouldn't worry about gun safety or muzzle control because the number of accidental gun deaths are statistically insignificant in a country of over 300 million people. That would obviously be irresponsible. Your emotional attachment, or not wanting to be wrong  clouds your judgment.

Why not just own the facts and admit you will do what you want regardless?
You claiming 35 deaths a year being relevant is purely emotional it's the same reason I don't worry about mass shooters or death by drowning/slipping in my shower, the chances of it happening to me like in the .0000001% range.

And yes, I've never once denied that I won't do what I want.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:16:52 AM EDT
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For 2015: 34 total

25 pit bull or pitbull mix
4 unknown.  But likely pit bull
2 rottweiler
1 police dog
1 boxer mix   Mixed w/ pit bull
1 shepard/retreiver mix.    Also mixed w/ pit bull

For 2016 (data only posted for first half of the year): 14 total

12 pit bull or pitbull mix
1 labrador/shepard mix.    color=#ff0000]Mixed w/ pit bull[/color]
1 multiple dogs including labrador retriever-great Pyrenees mix and husky-Australian cattle dog mix
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FIFY
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:34:40 AM EDT
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but my pit bull is a big baby
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 2:37:15 AM EDT
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This is the problem. Nobody cares about little nips from lapdogs. Even a normal pet breed usually bites with front canines and then backs up. Pits instinctively know how to bite, deep in the jaw, to get a crushing full mouth hold. They are good at it, because they were bred to be good at it...its not just propensity to bite, but rather their ability in biting thats the problem. They are more likely to produce severe and disfiguring injuries than say a lab. It is what it is, and its not the dogs fault as its what they were bred to do.

If they were extinct it would be fine by me. There is nothing they do other dogs cant do better, except the one skill they earn their reputation from.

That, and the many instances of just flipping a switch one day out of the blue makes them a very poor choice for a pet.
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exactly

my neighbor across the street have a $600,000 mcmansion and a pit bull

they have to walk the piece of shit with a muzzle on it so it won't chew other dogs in half

wow, what a swell dog.  where do I sign up?


I grew up in dutch country, every single redneck had a crazy inbred german shepherd

fucking worthless dogs

I knew a family where the shepherd bit their child's face and disfigured the kid.

THEN THE DOG DID IT AGAIN, BIT THE KIDS FACE AGAIN.

If it was up to me, both parents would be stripped naked and bullwhipped to within an inch of their life

if you can't accept reality, then reality should be bullwhipped into your skin


I can't stand when the stupidity of adults is paid for by a child
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 3:34:13 AM EDT
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What's YOUR point?  Are your guns capable of independent action?
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And guns kill.
Whats your point OP?
What's YOUR point?  Are your guns capable of independent action?
Yeah, that was about the least well thought out response possible
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 5:16:46 AM EDT
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Pitbulls are usually owned by white trash to prove to people how tough they are.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 5:34:05 AM EDT
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It's not just pits that snap.  My brother bought a springer spaniel from a breeder.  He was out in the field working the dog with a bird.

My brother reached for the bird and he said it was like a switch was flipped.  The dog went full retard.  My brother said it was a knock down drag out brawl.

He said he couldn't even get his knife out of his pocket.  Suddenly the dog stopped, looked at him and started wagging its tail like everything was fine.

He took the dog to the vet, had the dog put down, drove to the hospital to get his hands stitched up.
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i had a black lab jump a fence and try to attack me..that was the only lab Ive ever seen that was aggressive, every other lab I met was just the typical happy go lucky lab.  Granted, this was in a poor white trash ghetto type area so that could have played a part.


I firmly believe my weimaraner is nothing but a gentle soul who only wants the love and attention of humans (literally, she couldn't give two fucks about other dogs), but at the end of the day I still acknowledge the fact that she is a dog, and still has  the potential to be unpredictable.  As a result I keep a close eye on her around strangers and children.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 6:46:06 AM EDT
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with those dogs you are just playing genetic roulette
the ones that go off and attack you never know when or why
they were bred many years ago to attack and kill dogs, bears even men in pits for entertainment.
the residual genes for such a thing are still out there floating around you never know what you are gonna get.
all dogs bite some don't let go until the detach muscle,tendons,ligaments,nerves...
All dogs bit some dogs don't let go
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Your post is stupid. All dogs come from wolves and have the DNA of killers. Pitbulls are physically advantaged due to their low center of gravity, athleticism, and a propensity to grab and hold with higher than average (for dogs) jaw strength. I'm not a ghetto thug and I find mine a useful tool for catching wild hogs. She is dog and people friendly, raised her from a pup. She is 4 years old. A LOT of hog hunters use them.
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and you're drinking the kool-aid.  The CDC counts all "bites".  Pit Bulls don't bite, they maul.  I responded to countless dog "bites" in my time in law enforcement, but I remember every single one done by a Pit.  They were all BAD and almost always involved children and the head, face, neck.  That's not a media exaggeration, that's my personal experience.  Thanks for playing.
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Exactly.

It's not just fatalities, but a huge difference between a bite/nip that might break skin and draw blood vs being savaged to the point of needing many stitches and/or reconstructive surgery.

It's the difference between firecrackers and sticks of old dynamite (that may or may not be sweating pure nitroglycerin). Kids can get hurt with either one, but one of them has a much higher chance of resulting in far more severe injuries/death.


Max
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 6:53:39 AM EDT
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In before "breed of peace!"
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In before people not knowing how to handle strong animals with big teeth??
I have an English bull terrier that can tear most living things twice its weight to shreds. Yet my 8 year old can beat it to death with a stick and it will never even open its mouth.
People buy "pets" and dont understand how a pack actually works. Most people are just stupid, simple as that.
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The dipshit neighbors pit bull got my wife's weiner dog week before last. I had to have both her upper jaw bones removed, almost all her teeth were lost and her nasal cavities had to be stitched up because the were ripped open to her mouth. I also had to pay to have their fence repaired again to try and insure that dog doesn't get in my yard again. This is the second time in two years. Last time it put holes all in my schnauzer and removed several pieces of his mouth. It's sad after all these years I'm too scared to let my daughter play in the backyard anymore. I think I'm going to take my attorneys advice and we will be sending something to the base commander since they don't seem to care.
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The neighbor's pitbull broke into YOUR yard and savaged your dogs TWICE? How is the pitbull still alive?

I would've forced the neighbors to have the dog put down after the first time it came on MY property and attacked a member of MY household.

If there had been a 2nd time, I would've personally put the dog down right there in my yard.


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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 6:57:50 AM EDT
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People always say it's not the breed but the owners. What a complete lie. Pit bulls were bread to attack. It will always be in the breed. Similar how labs like water.
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Some of that is true. There is a genetic disposition but its nothing in comparison with how people fail ot understand the way they should handle dogs.
In 99.9% of the cases the dog that attacks family memebers (all breeds) its because they are either already the alpha of the pack or feel they have a good shot at challenging that position. This happens mostly with weak people, especially those that "spoil" their "pet". My dog isnt allowed inside the house, let alone sit where I sit, eat where I eat, sleep where I sleep. Thats not true for a lot of people that have thier dog on the livign room sofa, then act surprised when the dog doesnt understand its position in the family.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 7:20:49 AM EDT
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Five gallon buckets result in fatal accidents for young children; about 27 a year.





Ban 5 gallon buckets, it's for the children.




Link Posted: 3/25/2017 7:28:55 AM EDT
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wipe the fuckers from the planet, everybody would be better off, if you hide one, 10 yrs in prison and a bullet for the fuckin dog.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 7:37:26 AM EDT
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Just beginning a firehouse shift here in SW Atlanta area.

They got em everywhere down here and there wagging their tails at us on every single call.

Heebeejeebies is an understatement. 
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 7:41:48 AM EDT
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This breed dindu nuffin.
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People always say it's not the breed but the owners. What a complete lie. Pit bulls were bread to attack. It will always be in the breed. Similar how labs like water.
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This. I don't think the dogs should be banned, but the penalty for people's animals attacking a child should be much, much stiffer. Stiff enough that people think about what they own.

The other day a small girl came down the road leading a pit bull. It was pretty much dragging her.
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Fortunately, pit bulls only attack the owners ...
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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 8:22:22 AM EDT
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Did they ALL live in trailer parks, or just most?
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Dogs were/are bred for certain purposes.  Bird dogs hunt, usually birds, but can be taught to hunt other things.  Hounds hunt animals that run on the ground/climb trees.

Dogs there were bred to attack people and large violent animals will do that.

Having been around bird dogs all my life (for the most part) I like their easy going nature.  I don't trust many other breeds of dogs.

I've been bit by my own dogs, but only when trying to break up a fight, or, one time, trying to get out from under a dog fight.

The folks that live across the street from my mom have a couple of pit bulls, and three small kids.  I sure hope those kids get to grow up whole and un-scarred.
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Florida for the win!
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Babysitter breed.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 8:41:56 AM EDT
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APBT= all dogs bigger than Chihuahua
Common sense regulation is needed, just like for our assault weapons and high capacity "clips".
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 8:50:34 AM EDT
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My wife and I visited our county's new animal shelter last weekend.
There were 80 adoptable dogs there; 74 of them were pit bulls or pit bull mix.  
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And twice as many people die from lightning strikes each year. Whoop whoop.

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What you want to bet that of serious non-fatal dog bits that require medical intervention that pit bulls commit a disproportionate number of those?
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Taking up that question, that is why we carry walking in the neighborhood. It's NOT about thugs in suburbia, it's about thug dogs.

German shepherds bite, too, and are known for it, but few maul or kill the children in the family. It's more than apparent that pits can and will. This is why some communities have laws against them and why I will carry outdoors.

It's not about thugs in suburbia, it's about thug dogs.

Funny, I never hear these stories about Belgian Malinois. Maybe it's just media bias, or that they like to print up fake news about pits.
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this

Once again, i'm just putting it out there.

My pit is by far the sweetest, loving happy dog I've ever had. He has literally been attacked by another dog and just took it without fighting back.

Yes, these dogs are not for everyone. Yes they have been bred to be aggressive.

Yes, their upbringing and household environment does matter
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 9:24:35 AM EDT
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It's the most violent dog breed, period.  You can't argue with that.

Who the hell would want a mujahideen in waiting live in there house daily...and around children at that.  Crazy.....

They're like a dog breed infected with a slow progressing zombie virus at birth.  Why put that suspense in your life?
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Yep, the shelter here won't even print the name any more.   it's a "lab mix" or some other BS. I've seen them, if there is any lab in those dogs it's because they ate one.

The idiots had one of their rescues attack people in the "get to know you" room.  Took a kid down the second it came thru the door.  
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When I lived in Florida I remember seeing way too many pit bulls. I don't understand the appeal.
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It tends to be popular with certain cultures. Those same cultures want to make the dogs mean and tough so they do inhumane things like feed them gunpowder, chain them to trees, etc. That in turn exacerbates their natural (bred/genetics) disposition and contributes to a more volatile animal.
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You never know with dogs. Hell do you know what daschund's were originally bred for? Most don't. They were bred to go into fox and badger holes. Ever seen one get pissed off and fight another dog? They can twist their head around and come up under the neck of the other dog quick. They are hound dogs and very stubborn which is part of their breed yet in a dog fight their size or not much bigger than they are they win due to breeding. A lot is breeding yet how they are raised also has a lot to do with it.
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There is no doubt dachshunds are born with a chip on their shoulder. 

How many people have been killed by dachshund attacks?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Big difference between a band aid and death. 
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The CDC's report on dog bites showed 4+ million bites per year in the US, but didn't show a single breed that was worse than others.  You're believing the media's exaggerations.z
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Again, we are not talking about bites and nips, we are talking about deaths and disfiguring injuries. You have to have your head pretty far up your ass not to see that there are certain breeds causing this. 
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I love dogs but I've got more stories about pitbulls than I have good sense. I've been bitten 4 times in my life. Once by my GSD. He was sleeping on me and dreaming. I was drunk and petting him and he bolted upright and snapped at me, his tooth caught the edge of my forehead and pierced the skin. He later bit my wife...... But that's another story.

The 3 other times were pits. No provocation. The worst was a party, the dog was big, sleeping. He woke up and zeroed in on me like a laser. I'm a big guy with really long hair and a beard. He grabbed my left leg thank God, because it's prostetic. I tried to pull him off and he latched onto my hand and wouldn't let go..... What a shit show !

Everybody is screaming. HE WOULD NOT LET GO ! I tried choking him, people are pulling on him.... Blood is pouring out of my hand. (They had to replace the carpet after this) I put both knees on him with my full body weight and he ran out of air.

He had no history before. The owner begged me not to report this. My hand was broken and black and blue for 7 weeks. It's been 9 years and I can still see faint scars from the puncture wounds.

I'm not going to generalize or condem...... But if the breed goes extinct, I'll throw a little party.
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There was a video going around awhile back when people were doing the ice bucket challenge. The lady was in a chair giving the pre-ice dump spiel. The ice is dumped and she squeals. What does her pet do? Latches on to her face and doesn't let go. The filmer dropped the recording device and tried to help. The dog wouldn't let go. There were after pics from the hospital visit. This wasn't a ghetto thug family it was a middle class white family with a dog supposedly gotten from a reputable breeder. 

That one never did anything like that either. Attached it's own master. 


Oh, and that "nursery dog bullshit", is just that, bullshit. They bit people back then too, that's why they fell out of popularity. 
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Pit bulls=dirt peeps
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its not happening really there are plenty of folks here that assure me that these dogs are A ok its just a figment of your imagination
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Animals and people have free will....


Don't know why people are surprised.
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Shit breed
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All 35ish a year? A statistical whoopty-fuckin-doo
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How many were children minding their own business playing and doing child things. How many didn't die but have to live with disfiguring injuries and handicaps. How many people had their pets killed in their own yard. A poster right above us has had two attacks. I suppose he should just let his child in the yard, after all, only 35 a year are killed. He can take solace in that when his daughter is one of the 35. 


I mean, there is such a shortage of dog breeds, we really need to save pit bulls from becoming extinct, otherwise we would have not pets at all. 
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Your post is stupid. All dogs come from wolves and have the DNA of killers. Pitbulls are physically advantaged due to their low center of gravity, athleticism, and a propensity to grab and hold with higher than average (for dogs) jaw strength. I'm not a ghetto thug and I find mine a useful tool for catching wild hogs. She is dog and people friendly, raised her from a pup. She is 4 years old. A LOT of hog hunters use them.
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And they are bad ass hog dogs. Those same qualities you just mentioned are the reason why bites turn into maulings. When a pit latches on it does what its bred for and does it well.It does a shit ton of damage.

I've known several pits that are like overgrown lapdogs. My nephews pit inpaticular loves me too death (no pun intended). One of the best damn dogs I have seen. The flipside is I live in the country where there isnt a leash law with lots or strays and dump off dogs roaming around. Guess which breed kills more livestock and other dogs. That's right the pitbull. It's impressive and scary as fuck to see one of dogs in action. It just won't quit until the other animal is dead.
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Your post is stupid. All dogs come from wolves and have the DNA of killers. Pitbulls are physically advantaged due to their low center of gravity, athleticism, and a propensity to grab and hold with higher than average (for dogs) jaw strength. I'm not a ghetto thug and I find mine a useful tool for catching wild hogs. She is dog and people friendly, raised her from a pup. She is 4 years old. A LOT of hog hunters use them.
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Be ready to put her down when she snaps.  That is the advice I've heard from a guy that used kill dogs for coyotes.
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