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Posted: 3/24/2017 4:56:09 AM EDT
Grandma was one of them...
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:05:41 AM EDT
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My fathers grandfather was, same time same place my mothers grandfather was the country sheriff.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:07:00 AM EDT
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I consider them entrepreneurs. It's the same as weed, crack or heroin to me. A business transaction between consenting adults. If you don't like it don't buy it.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:19:41 AM EDT
[#3]
Heroes 




Except for the NASCAR thing 
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:25:02 AM EDT
[#4]
That's how my dad's dad learned how to drive, before he was actually legally old enough to drive.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:29:24 AM EDT
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Guess it depends on who you're talking about. If you were just distilling/brewing and selling then I say great. Such a person certainly would've been my hero. If you murdered someone over it then you're straight up criminal. It's kind of the difference between Popcorn Sutton and Al Capone.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:31:31 AM EDT
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What If prohibition was still in place and war on alcohol was part of the war on drugs? Still support breaking the law like marijuana users are doing now?

Just a hypothetical, I'm in the legalize drugs category. Prohibition is dumb.

And really my point is, does your answer change now that we know prohibition on alcohol was repealed?

What about ppl not following nfa laws? Criminals now, but heroes after/if ever repealed?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:44:49 AM EDT
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Everyone should be able to brew, distill, and ferment and sell what they make same as any other product.


If you have never had summerwine, You have no idea what the fucking government is depriving you of.


Same goes for non pasturized cheeses and smoke cured  dried meats.

A glass of elder berry summerwine, some fresh sour dough bread, some aged unpasturized cheeses, and a hunk of dried sausage and thin sliced 3 year old ham....

That is a fucking life changing experience.

above all other things, the government has ruined the pallet of Americans, and robbed from them what a real food experience is.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:45:36 AM EDT
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Shiners were folks who were working to feed their families. That's how I see them.
The .gov hates competition.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:50:28 AM EDT
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Well put and the haters can pay full price for their spirits. We still got the good stuff up here in North Georgia.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:53:30 AM EDT
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Just folks trying to get by. Long as no one is harmed, I don't give a shit what they do.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:55:42 AM EDT
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Heroes. Prohibition on anything, especially based on what a religious groups is pushing for, is ridiculous and should be regarded as such.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:04:17 AM EDT
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My grand-dad dabbled in it running whiskey down from Canada. 
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:22:32 AM EDT
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I don't consider them heroes. I put them on a level with the "Will Not Comply" folks and I don't consider myself any sort of hero.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:24:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:25:10 AM EDT
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Booze running didn't stop with the end of Prohibition.

Up until the 80's Coors beer was virtually unobtainable outside of Colorado and "running" Coors to other parts of the country was the premise of at least one major movie.




I may, or may not, have known several people involved in this practice operating between Colorado and Texas in the late 60's and early 70's.

Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:33:44 AM EDT
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if they weren't blinding people, then heroes
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:39:13 AM EDT
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Everyone should be able to brew, distill, and ferment and sell what they make same as any other product.


If you have never had summerwine, You have no idea what the fucking government is depriving you of.


Same goes for non pasturized cheeses and smoke cured  dried meats.

A glass of elder berry summerwine, some fresh sour dough bread, some aged unpasturized cheeses, and a hunk of dried sausage and thin sliced 3 year old ham....

That is a fucking life changing experience.

above all other things, the government has ruined the pallet of Americans, and robbed from them what a real food experience is.
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What is summer wine?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:42:12 AM EDT
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Druggies do druggie things. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:44:06 AM EDT
[#19]
Robert Mitchum - Thunder Road
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:48:23 AM EDT
[#20]
/wouldn't call them crooks, but something about George Washington some thing something war and tax, or whatever
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 8:06:27 AM EDT
[#21]
Neither. Just Americans working to make a buck.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 8:11:50 AM EDT
[#22]
Heroes.

Fuck government overreach and nanny-state legislated morality in all its forms.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 8:14:58 AM EDT
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If you have Netflix watch Ken Burns's  documentary "Prohibition" and see how fucked-up the run-up to prohibition was.

Roots of PROHIBITION The Time is Now
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 8:17:19 AM EDT
[#24]
Dopers, drug smugglers, period.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 8:19:00 AM EDT
[#25]
Law breakers.  If you dont like a law fight to get it changed legally.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:00:22 AM EDT
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...or boring reality show
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:12:32 AM EDT
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Everyone should be able to brew, distill, and ferment and sell what they make same as any other product.


If you have never had summerwine, You have no idea what the fucking government is depriving you of.


Same goes for non pasturized cheeses and smoke cured  dried meats.

A glass of elder berry summerwine, some fresh sour dough bread, some aged unpasturized cheeses, and a hunk of dried sausage and thin sliced 3 year old ham....

That is a fucking life changing experience.

above all other things, the government has ruined the pallet of Americans, and robbed from them what a real food experience is.
What is summer wine?
A song by Nancy Sinatra.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:13:54 AM EDT
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What's the problem with that? Personal responsibility who needs it?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:17:57 AM EDT
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Moonshiners created an American institution that became mainstream in the 50's and 60's -- the hot rod.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:21:35 AM EDT
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Cause that's what the founders did. 
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:26:51 AM EDT
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we do know George Washington was the one who taxed home distillers? Our first "civil war" was US Troops against
Scot Irish moon shiners, making booze and selling it with out paying the FedCoats their due? An army led by POTUS Washington?


of course some say it was a war over a land dispute with GW and the Shiners that went back before the war of English aggression...
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:51:18 AM EDT
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Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God.
Thomas Jefferson
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:54:41 AM EDT
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This.  Smart man. Can't take money from Uncle Sugar, the other way around is ok though
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:57:18 AM EDT
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Heroes.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:05:10 AM EDT
[#35]
Heroes
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:27:41 AM EDT
[#36]
Not heroes, but certainly helped people get what they wanted.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:29:33 AM EDT
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The coal mine, moonshine or moving on down the line.

My dad's side of the family Scots-Irish
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:30:19 AM EDT
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we do know George Washington was the one who taxed home distillers? Our first "civil war" was US Troops against
Scot Irish moon shiners, making booze and selling it with out paying the FedCoats their due? An army led by POTUS Washington?


of course some say it was a war over a land dispute with GW and the Shiners that went back before the war of English aggression...
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The Whiskey Rebellion
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:31:52 AM EDT
[#39]
Just good Americans, making due with the resources, ingenuity and skills available to them - to get by and make a living.

A.W.D.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:39:11 AM EDT
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Crooks...but nobody really gives a fuck, man!
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:40:19 AM EDT
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Then the same is to be said for drug smugglers.

Not against you bro, just saying...
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:45:42 AM EDT
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What If prohibition was still in place and war on alcohol was part of the war on drugs? Still support breaking the law like marijuana users are doing now?

Just a hypothetical, I'm in the legalize drugs category. Prohibition is dumb.

And really my point is, does your answer change now that we know prohibition on alcohol was repealed?

What about ppl not following nfa laws? Criminals now, but heroes after/if ever repealed?
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Victimless crime.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:57:59 AM EDT
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Then the same is to be said for drug smugglers.

Not against you bro, just saying...
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Then the same is to be said for drug smugglers.

Not against you bro, just saying...
Yea, I don't mind the ones that aren't doing harm to others.  But I also don't pad my retirement with OT by filling out paperwork to put otherwise harmless people into jail, either.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:00:56 AM EDT
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Criminals, outlaws, or characters (or a combination) but definitely not heroes.

A lot of moonshiners killed innocent people, rivals, cops, revenooers, etc.  And they didn't sell their shine for local orphanages, they sold it to fill their own pockets.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:04:29 AM EDT
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Illegal Aliens, crooks or American Heros?

Hey, they sneak cross the border to be part of the American Dream!  Millions upon millions, selling cocaine y marijuana to consenting adults, they only kill each other, they just want to get a job and go to school!

We don' need no stinking laws!
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:08:10 AM EDT
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Wasn't that mostly the government poisoning the booze?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:10:01 AM EDT
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heroes, just like the patriots that run weed from Colorado to other states.

amirite?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:11:03 AM EDT
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Wasn't that mostly the government poisoning the booze?
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Wasn't that mostly the government poisoning the booze?
LOL seriously???
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:12:37 AM EDT
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Cause that's what the founders did. 
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Law breakers.  If you dont like a law fight to get it changed legally.
Cause that's what the founders did. 
Yeah. They did. Just to turn around and become what they fought against. Everyone likes to invoke the founding fathers but they ended up being no better than the king, for the most part...
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:13:33 AM EDT
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Since you still (heh) can't make it even for your own use...it is still prohibited.

I can see some tax and oversight for selling it, but forbidding making it for yourself is stupid.
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