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They will wait until they see a car coming and then step out and do the slow walk thing, |
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Because blacks make up about 14% of the population and there are less of them to stop for?
Ok, I go with the carjacking theory. Anyone have the stats on race of car jackers? |
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Was this study conducted at night? View Quote I am NOT making any type of comparison here (that would be stereotyping) but just presenting a 'story line' to suggest a possibility. |
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Because blacks make up about 14% of the population and there are less of them to stop for? Ok, I go with the carjacking theory. Anyone have the stats on race of car jackers? View Quote ETA: Remember 12-15% of the US population, total, with 1/2 of that 6-7.5% (males) doing most of it. |
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Black pedestrians less likely to obey crosswalks and hurry the fuck across the road. View Quote There's a strip of roadway down here where the city is literally putting up a fence in the median to keep people from Jay walking. There are quite a few traffic lights down here that are solely for pedestrians. And guess what neighborhoods they're in. |
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Because black people just stroll into the street wherever they please regardless of traffic. Its seriously in black peoples DNA to do this. I've lived in predominantly black areas for a long time and I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen blacks hurry up or not step into the street when cars are present. The best is when they stare at you while loudly reciting rap lyrics. No surprise people don't give a fuck about hitting them. View Quote |
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A new study appears to offer additional evidence that drivers are less likely to brake for African-American pedestrians trying to cross the street, a phenomenon known as “walking while black.” Coughenour, while acknowledging the study’s limitations, said she believes the results confirm what researchers found in a study conducted by researchers at Portland State University in Oregon and the University of Arizona. She said the findings are also in line with a large body of literature that suggests people react differently to others based on “implicit bias” that may not be conscious. “We all have some sort of innate bias,” she said. Link View Quote Maybe because that's the demographic that deliberately both plays in traffic to fuck with people, and tries to stop people to rob them or worse? Everyone I know tries to avoid people who happen to be in the street when they're driving. If someone is deliberately trying to block you way it's a different issue. |
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Maybe its because a certain demographic likes to walk out into the road whether they have the light or not and challenge you to do something about it. Then there are the carjackings and the people who like to walk literally in the road and , once again, challenge you to do something about it.
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PSA for all black walkers and joggers in the pre dawn hours: We can't fucking see you unles you wear highly reflective/visible clothing. Your built-in night camo is effective. Also applies to everyone, wear visible attire in the dark.
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I know that study is bullshit. If I didn't brake for black folks haphazardly walking across the roadway I'd kill one or two a week, at least.
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I have worked at the airport here for quite a while, much of that time working nights. The airport is of course surrounded by ghetto. It doesn't surprise me that they're more likely to get hit. All hours of the night they will be walking in the road- not near the road, on the sidewalk or across the road, but down the middle of the fucking road. Sometimes alone, sometimes in groups and they always seemed to be wearing dark clothing. And they don't get out of the road when they see a car coming. The phrasing of the "study" is bullshit. When you see someone in the road, ethnicity doesn't factor into the decision to stop. One group gets hit a lot more because that group is more likely to be in the fucking road. View Quote |
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Bullshit. I try not to run anyone over.
It's illegal you know. Lol |
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I know that study is bullshit. If I didn't brake for black folks haphazardly walking across the roadway I'd kill one or two a week, at least. View Quote |
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Years ago I had an Eagle Talon TSI that was set up for road and track use and took it up to visit family outside Detroit.
Was at a stoplight and a black woman who weighed as much as the car was taking her sweet time walking across the street and mean mugging all the people in cars, I dropped it into neutral and pressed the pedal down and spooled up the turbo, she jumped up and took off at a run to get to the other side and then she turned and gave me the finger. I thought the guy in the truck next to me was going to die from laughing so hard In Iowa a friend lived in a spot where you had to drive in the hood to get to the nice area he lived in and the ghetto goblins would hang out in the street and hassle drives, my buddies who is a cop there said that if you hit one to keep driving and call 911 and say that you were driving to the station. It was safer to "flee" right to the station then to stay there and deal with the thugs. The above friend has pulled a pistol grip 12ga a few times to get down the street to get them out of the way. Most were all talk and if alone they would run but it was always groups of 4 to 20+ people hanging out in the street at all hours |
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I am sorry, but pedestrians need to watch for cars. When I was growing up, I was taught to stay out of the way of cars....not because they had the legal right of way....but if they hit me, they win every time. Every time. Why the fuck we gave pedestrians right of way across a road cars travel is just fucking dumb. Also, if they cross when the crossing light is saying cross, things work a lot better. Also #2, if you wait for cars to pass and cross swiftly when there is an opening, you impede (and also are at risk of being hit by) traffic for less time. Bur hey, what good is common sense...? View Quote If you want to really feel useless about your engineering career, design a pedestrian bridge to cross a dangerous roadway and don't line the sides of the road with tall fences. Not a single person will use that bridge. They will walk under it and cause additional pedestrian crashes. |
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I have worked at the airport here for quite a while, much of that time working nights. The airport is of course surrounded by ghetto. It doesn't surprise me that they're more likely to get hit. All hours of the night they will be walking in the road- not near the road, on the sidewalk or across the road, but down the middle of the fucking road. Sometimes alone, sometimes in groups and they always seemed to be wearing dark clothing. And they don't get out of the road when they see a car coming. The phrasing of the "study" is bullshit. When you see someone in the road, ethnicity doesn't factor into the decision to stop. One group gets hit a lot more because that group is more likely to be in the fucking road. |
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I had a old pickup that would lock the left rear tire really easy when braking. Loved to roll right up on those assholes and lock it up. They'd go from chicken strut to full bore sprinting in .05 seconds.
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In my 20 years of driving, I have noticed a trend that most black people crossing the road just don't give a sh!t, proceed at their own pace and yes mosey is the best term.
If a car slows to let me cross, I don't care who is driving, I move my ass and hustle across. I have seriously always wondered what is the mindset that is going on here. I suppose it's the same cultural processes that lets people think that a movie theatre is a place to talk or bring young kids to run around in. |
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As long as the crosswalk says walk it's their time, its when that time is up and the light is green then they are looking for trouble. You guys forgot about the saggin pants on that slow stroll when their time is up and the light is green. ETA-forgot, the saggin pants is their way of saying kiss their ass, they love that saying
I think they have several reasons for that behavior. 1. They want the driver to get too close to their space and create a confrontation 2. They are on foot and the driver is enjoying a comfortable seat, AC/Heat and a radio so, F you, you can wait 3. They hope you hit them but not kill them so they can sue and get rich 4.Their lives suck so bad they hope someone runs them over and kills them and puts them out of their misery |
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This is confirmed by my totally non scientific observations. They do the whole don't look and slowly stroll out into traffic because "fuck yall" thing all the time. It's an observable fact and if you work in those areas often and encounter it constantly you stop giving a fuck after a while too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When a person is doing the "walk slow in the middle of the road, and don't disrespect me stroll", fuck them. I'm not playing their fucking dominance asshat games. I also don't frequent the hood so there's that data point. |
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The study was clearly done before The Book of White Privilege " was published.
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Who gives a shit? Why does everything have to be analyzed racially?
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..and young black males are more likely to stroll slowly into the street just to act like dicks..so, there is that too View Quote passive-aggressive behavior back in my old neighborhood. We were all gearheads back then. At a stoplight in friends 69 Charger 440 when one strolled through the crosswalk at glacial speed. Friend engaged front brake lockout, let the rear tires loose. Engine roars to life, tire smoke everywhere. Friend smiles and waves homey to cross. Guy ran like he just heard gunfire. |
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Coughenour, while acknowledging the study’s limitations, said she believes the results confirm what researchers found in a study conducted by researchers at Portland State University in Oregon and the University of Arizona. She said the findings are also in line with a large body of literature that suggests people react differently to others based on “implicit bias” that may not be conscious. View Quote |
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BS. It's 12 points on your record in MI if you hit any person. Not 12 for whites and 2 for blacks.
That said, there are times when I don't exactly blame someone for not stopping in bad parts of town. A white guy in Detroit got beaten to within an inch of his life (like "needed to be re-trained how to function") because a kid ran in the way of his truck and he hit him. The family came out and beat him badly. Right after that I was downtown for a school field trip and a couple of guys were laughing as they walked down the middle of the road I was driving down. One of them pantomimed diving in front of my truck... guess what, I wouldn't have stopped if he had fallen and I had hit him. |
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Not Just Carjacking, Every Single Violent Crime, According to the FBI ETA: Remember 12-15% of the US population, total, with 1/2 of that 6-7.5% (males) doing most of it. View Quote |
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Well yeah, I'm sure that's true for places like Trenton, Camden, Chicago.....
I mean the few times I've driven through Trenton I never once stopped for a red light. I may have slowed down but never fucking stopped. |
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If I remember correctly he fractured his leg and got like a half a million off that. He was interviewed by that smoking gun show. View Quote https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/Finddock.asp?DocketKey=CABA0MB0DABGBF0MD |
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Black pedestrians are also less likely to stop and watch for traffic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZUUxBMWXh8 View Quote |
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How about because a lot of lower-class blacks, not Latino or white who GTFO from a moving car, walk in the middle of the road, or cross when they shouldnt, or are wearing dark clothes at night and cant be seen??!!??!?
Ohh yeah, racist. |
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Not true.....I could not afford the repair bill for hitting a 300# + Baby Mamma.
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At least in Nashville, I noticed black folk like to take their sweet ass time crossing the street, even if traffic has to slow or stop. Crossing without a crosswalk is standard procedure on a lot of streets downtown, but most folks time it right or jog so as not to disrupt flow. I didn't grow up in a city. I don't have enough experience in other cities for extended periods to compare behavior. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
At least in Nashville, I noticed black folk like to take their sweet ass time crossing the street, even if traffic has to slow or stop. Crossing without a crosswalk is standard procedure on a lot of streets downtown, but most folks time it right or jog so as not to disrupt flow. I didn't grow up in a city. I don't have enough experience in other cities for extended periods to compare behavior. Several years ago, when I worked at Colemill and my daughter was a student at Meigs and Hume-Fogg, I'd have to drive that stretch of Gallatin Road. Was kinda fun when I had the old F250 diesel. I knew to watch for them stepping off the sidewalk on the left side of the road (don't recall seeing them do it from the right, much) as they tried to time their stroll to be in my lane as I got there. If a person isn't familiar with diesels, downshifting with your foot off the throttle apparently sounds like the you just stomped the throttle. Downshifting really screwed with their timing. I had one jog across a lane and a half, trying to get to my lane in time while thinking I had floored it, then he noticed that I was actually slowing down, so he switched to trying to walk as slow as possible without actually stopping. He couldn't pull it off, and seemed a little pissed that instead of showing me that he was in control, I made him look like a fool. I rarely had to hit my brakes while driving that truck on that stretch, but I did do a lot of downshifting as I watched people speed up their stroll and then slow back down. Quoted:
It's like they are daring you to brush guard them in the teeth. I don't get it. |
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And they will respond by telling you that Whites commit as many crimes but get off due to white priviledge View Quote the CDC). Do we really have 22,800+ unreported murders in the US annually? No, we don't. Anyone who uses the "whites offend at the same rate blacks do but don't get caught" argument is stupid and should feel bad for pushing lies. Total homocides in 2014 15,809 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm Arrests by race data from Wiki (using DOJ data) "Homicide According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.[40][41][42] In 2013, number and percentage of murder arrests by race were: Black or African Americans 4,379 = 52.2% White Americans (including Hispanic Americans) 3,799 = 45.3% American Indians or Alaska Natives 98 = 1.06% Asian Americans 101 = 1.2% [43][44] Inversely, the percentage of individuals in each racial demographic arrested for murder in 2013 was: 0.01% of Black or African American population (4,379/38,929,319) 0.0017% of White American and Hispanic American population (3,799/223,553,265) 0.0033% of American Indian or Alaska Native population (98/2,932,248) 0.0007% of Asian American population (101/14,674,252)" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States |
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Did anybody read this part? The study is complete bullshit by their own admission.
But there are also several factors in the Las Vegas study that suggest the results should be interpreted with care. In three scenarios that the researchers used, they found little statistically significant data to suggest a difference in the way motorists reacted to the pedestrian, whether black or white. In one of those, in fact, more cars passed the white pedestrian than the black pedestrian when they were waiting to step off the curb in the high-income neighbourhood. What’s more, the roadways between the high- and low-income neighbourhoods differed in design, both in the number of lanes the pedestrian had to cross and the posted speed limit, as the study acknowledges. The researchers also noted, citing other research, that the disparity between yielding rates in the different neighbourhoods could be explained by several factors, such as people in high-income areas more often having private cars and driving more compared to people in low-income neighbourhoods, where there are also generally more pedestrians. View Quote |
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My theory on this phenomenon is that poor, insecure, inner-city/projects/hood blacks find this to be one of the few ways they can get acknowledgement from people who actually have jobs, vehicles, and somewhere to be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is confirmed by my totally non scientific observations. They do the whole don't look and slowly stroll out into traffic because "fuck yall" thing all the time. It's an observable fact and if you work in those areas often and encounter it constantly you stop giving a fuck after a while too. Kharn |
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That's why I don't stop for anyone. I'm an equal opportunity hater.
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It couldn't be because most of them take their good time and dare you to hit them right?
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I can't come up with anything CoC worthy to post in this thread.
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