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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:01:39 PM EDT
I'm located around the Pittsburgh area, particularly in Washington County, Pennsylvania. We have an absolute rash of overdoses locally and within SWPA as a whole. Allegheny County, Westmoreland County, Washington County and Greene County.
Particularly, where I am in Washington, Interstate 70 and Interstate 79 converge and supposedly our little quiet town has quickly became heroin highway. Lots of major shit going on in a town that was once a sleepy Pittsburgh suburb they manufactured glass and mined coal. All I see on the news is OD, OD, NARCAN, OD, OD, NARCAN. Is it just PA, OH and WV that are contending with this scourge, or is it truly everywhere in our country? It used to be a self-correcting issue. I have a former co-worker who's daughter was an abuser of opioid's and he always told me 'They're the hidden people." - I didn't quite understand that until he elaborated and said many families hide them, they just corner then away and don't speak of them. |
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E TN is the epicenter...fact.
I believe it is another example of Darwin thinning out the herd...all we need to do is get out of his way. |
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It has been a big problem around here too, even in schools.
Maybe I was sheltered, but when I was a kid, all people really did was smoke pot and drink beer. Now it is getting hooked on pain pills, which become harder to find than heroin, so it moves to that. |
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worked as an EMT in rural Upstate NY...yup
moved to northern NH in the middle of the White Mountains....because gd says uproot everything and move you life for gun laws..and to talk shit to Texans...so i did and yup |
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It has been a big problem around here too, even in schools. Maybe I was sheltered, but when I was a kid, all people really did was smoke pot and drink beer. Now it is getting hooked on pain pills, which become harder to find than heroin, so it moves to that. View Quote |
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I thought it was a rare to see any news about heroin around here 15 years ago. Now it seems like it's all you hear about. wonder what changed? price? availability?
Still don't know how anyone would willing addict themselves to heroin. |
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Friend was driving home last night in South Florida and thought she saw a dog on the side of the road in the grass. Turned around and it was a young girl OD'ing. Called medics and NARCAN was administered.
The most messed up thing happened to me tonight on my way back from my mom's house. I was driving down SE 5th ave in Dania beach (residential) and I passed this weird looking black thing in the grass near the sidewalk. I thought maybe it was a big lab that got hit by a car. I kept going but it did not sit right with me so I turned around and drove by it again. As I approached it, I had this weird, strong, unsettled feeling. It was a girl, face down, wearing all black but her hair was in a bun so I could see her neck. She was not responding to me at all. I called 911, it seemed like it took forever but she began to twitch alittle. It was a sweet baby Jesus moment and I was thankful she was still alive. She was lightly gasping for air and still not responding when the paramedics pulled up. Everyone was hustling, lights flashing everywhere, three cop cars and an ambulance. The paramedic examined her eyes and showed the police officer how small her pupils were. He turned to me and said you just saved her life tonight. She was overdosing on heroin. He gave her an injection to reverse it but my heart is still broken. I can never unsee that and she was going to die alone on the side of the street. Just like that... After calling my mom and trying to put words to this horrific scene, I pray this is her turning point! I pray she loves herself more tomorrow than she does today. I pray she has friends and family that will help her through this struggle. I pray she does not die today... ?? I love you mom and thanks for listening to me talk it out and try to wrap my head around that. It was really fucked up... sorry I cursed! |
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I grew up in a small county in VA in the middle of nowhere. When I graduated in 2001 we could get pot and beer easily, everything else was pretty hard. Nowadays kids are ODing on herion every year in that same small county.
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Buddy of mine was sitting in a Waffle House in Georgia and watched a younger guy in the parking lot hop into the back seat of a car that had just pulled in. He hopped right back out; car left. He came in grabbed a spoon from the counter and went into the bathroom. 1 o'clock in the afternoon last Monday.
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worked as an EMT in rural Upstate NY...yup moved to northern NH in the middle of the White Mountains....because gd says uproot everything and move you life for gun laws..and to talk shit to Texans...so i did and yup View Quote That's where I found my wife! |
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I thought it was a rare to see any news about heroin around here 15 years ago. Now it seems like it's all you hear about. wonder what changed? price? availability? Still don't know how anyone would willing addict themselves to heroin. View Quote |
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Approximately 80 percent of the global opioid supply is consumed in the United States.
we have a major problem |
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It's really bad here in PA, I've got family throughout the Midwest bad there too. Although I don't hear about it so much there on the news, just from my peeps. Yea... everywhere.
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I live in a fairly rural area and I'm surprised at how often I read about it in the local paper.
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Sounds like it's pretty popular in shit states like PA and Ohio.
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OP, I'm 90 minutes north of you.
I've lived here all my life and I'm a former LEO. I believe it's every bit as bad up here, if not worse than Washington, PA. |
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Everywhere. I worked in Donora for a while (great place, right?) and it was very bad there. We'd find stamped bags in the plant and give them to the cops. Needles in the locker room, you name it. Had to get rid of a few employees that were heavily addicted or came to work high as hell on heroin.
But it is everywhere. Where I work now, not so much the employees but the surrounding community is affected. Lots of little break-ins for just a few dollars from the center console so they can get a hit. As sad as it sounds I sort of laugh reading the monthly report on various stamped bags and where they are found in PA...the names and the results are sometimes obviously appropriate. |
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Best friend is an EMT in CO, they're having a bit of an issue with it.
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Not at my house. I am drinking some Elijah Craig after a workout though. Extra relaxy.
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My FIL used to do undercover Narcotics enforcement when he was active LEO. He talked to some of his friends who are still active recently and they said two things are moving right now: Meth from south of the border and a literal flood of relatively cheap, potent Heroin.
The supply of Opiods is being tightened, so, Smack is easier to get and is stronger than ever. A recipe for ODs. |
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Approximately 80 percent of the global opioid supply is consumed in the United States. we have a major problem View Quote |
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It's all over here in rural SW VA (and of course, right across the county/state line into southern WV).
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Its useless to go to work and hope for no overdoses. I just hope they are early enough in the shift that I can get work done on them.
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All I see on the news is OD, OD, NARCAN, OD, OD, NARCAN. View Quote That's what has changed. The shit is all over the news now because the nanny staters have decided they want to ban pain relievers to save some doper's life. |
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Friend was driving home last night in South Florida and thought she saw a dog on the side of the road in the grass. Turned around and it was a young girl OD'ing. Called medics and NARCAN was administered. The most messed up thing happened to me tonight on my way back from my mom's house. I was driving down SE 5th ave in Dania beach (residential) and I passed this weird looking black thing in the grass near the sidewalk. I thought maybe it was a big lab that got hit by a car. I kept going but it did not sit right with me so I turned around and drove by it again. As I approached it, I had this weird, strong, unsettled feeling. It was a girl, face down, wearing all black but her hair was in a bun so I could see her neck. She was not responding to me at all. I called 911, it seemed like it took forever but she began to twitch alittle. It was a sweet baby Jesus moment and I was thankful she was still alive. She was lightly gasping for air and still not responding when the paramedics pulled up. Everyone was hustling, lights flashing everywhere, three cop cars and an ambulance. The paramedic examined her eyes and showed the police officer how small her pupils were. He turned to me and said you just saved her life tonight. She was overdosing on heroin. He gave her an injection to reverse it but my heart is still broken. I can never unsee that and she was going to die alone on the side of the street. Just like that... After calling my mom and trying to put words to this horrific scene, I pray this is her turning point! I pray she loves herself more tomorrow than she does today. I pray she has friends and family that will help her through this struggle. I pray she does not die today... ?? I love you mom and thanks for listening to me talk it out and try to wrap my head around that. It was really fucked up... sorry I cursed! View Quote |
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take a trip through rock island county IL or Colona IA, it is everywhere
my mom delt with it for a while, jail cleaned her up, this was probably 20 or so years ago now |
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Oh it's shit here I'm PA as stated. Live in Westmoreland county. Work a few blocks from the meth clinic in Greensburg, you should see the amount of people there at any given time. Worst thing is if you OD and have shit on you the cops just take it and you get off Scott free. Same if you call for someone od-ing and are holding. The "Good Samaritan" law.
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I can completely understand how folks hooked on pain pills revert to heroin after they can't get prescriptions.
That said, I do not understand how kids (without a previous opioid addiction) are willing to even try heroin. I did all kinds of drugs as a teenager, and it was very obvious that heroin/meth/crack were drugs that you didn't do under any circumstance. |
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The 'opiate crisis' has turned my heart dark, and I am now an official member of 'dark heart island.'
I don't care anymore. I don't care if people OD. I wouldn't care if it were a family member. I may not even call 911 if I saw someone OD'ing. I'd probably stand over their dead body and laugh, like Walter White. I would have zero problem stepping over the dead bodies of junkies in the gutter. None. |
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Good for you! beautiful area. That's where I found my wife! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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worked as an EMT in rural Upstate NY...yup moved to northern NH in the middle of the White Mountains....because gd says uproot everything and move you life for gun laws..and to talk shit to Texans...so i did and yup That's where I found my wife! |
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It is everywhere. In some places heroin is more popular but in other places the pills are worse. Some places have more a fetenyl problem mixed in the heroin. But as a general opioid drug problem yes everywher.
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Everywhere. I worked in Donora for a while (great place, right?) and it was very bad there. We'd find stamped bags in the plant and give them to the cops. Needles in the locker room, you name it. Had to get rid of a few employees that were heavily addicted or came to work high as hell on heroin. But it is everywhere. Where I work now, not so much the employees but the surrounding community is affected. Lots of little break-ins for just a few dollars from the center console so they can get a hit. As sad as it sounds I sort of laugh reading the monthly report on various stamped bags and where they are found in PA...the names and the results are sometimes obviously appropriate. View Quote |
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It's been a while since we've had a good hysteria.
People will always get high, and they'll always die. It's human nature. |
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Approximately 80 percent of the global opioid supply is consumed in the United States. we have a major problem View Quote If America consumed 80% of the worlds oil, would that be a major problem to you? If Americans owned 80% of the worlds private vehicles, would that be a major problem to you? 80% of the opiod supply is consumed by America because the vast majority of the rest of the world sucks. If you're consuming 80% of anything, that's not a problem -- it's a sign of development and how advanced the society is. Here's a better one that's probably more relatable: If 80% of the worlds 'super-mega-obese' population lived in the US, would that be a 'major problem'? I don't think so. That's a sign that Americans have been successful and that you have so much more excess food to consume compared to the rest of the world. |
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It is everywhere. In some places heroin is more popular but in other places the pills are worse. Some places have more a fetenyl problem mixed in the heroin. But as a general opioid drug problem yes everywher. View Quote |
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yes it's everywhere. and new england seems to be getting hit real hard.
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The 'opiate crisis' has turned my heart dark, and I am now an official member of 'dark heart island.' I don't care anymore. I don't care if people OD. I wouldn't care if it were a family member. I may not even call 911 if I saw someone OD'ing. I'd probably stand over their dead body and laugh, like Walter White. I would have zero problem stepping over the dead bodies of junkies in the gutter. None. View Quote |
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I believe it starts with recreational pain pill addiction in many cases. View Quote People are more likely to be exposed to opioids that way, people are willing to take a pill either as prescribed or not and find out they like the drug. The supply of heroin went way up 10-15 years ago, for a number of geopolitical reasons. With big supply came low prices and more use. And then came fentanyl, which has made it a crapshoot whether the dose will kill you or not. It's a perfect shitstorm, but it's the attempt to use government to fix it that's killing people. You aren't going to stop junkies from getting high by making the supply dangerous, and you certainly aren't going to eliminate the supply. |
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