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Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:06:39 PM EDT
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This story just keeps getting weirder...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intel-chair-devin-nunes-unsure-trump-associates-directly/story?id=46325928

The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, R-Calif., does not know "for sure" whether President Donald Trump or members of his transition team were even on the phone calls or other communications now being cited as partial vindication for the president’s wiretapping claims against the Obama administration, according to a spokesperson.

"He said he'll have to get all the documents he requested from the [intelligence community] about this before he knows for sure," a spokesperson for Nunes said Thursday. Nunes was a member of the Trump transition team executive committee.

At a press conference yesterday, Nunes announced he obtained "dozens of reports" showing the U.S. intelligence community -- through its "normal foreign surveillance" -- "incidentally collected information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition."

But Nunes never said Trump or any of the president's associates personally participated in the communications that were intercepted.
That's called Fake News. 

Fox is reporting that the NSA has evidence that President Zero used foreign intelligence collection to spy on Trump and disseminate the information wide across the government in order to undermine Trump's presidency. 

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.
Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:15:54 PM EDT
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I agree completely. A whole lot of nothing will come from it. Not because there's nothing to it but because it's no longer possible to hold any individual responsible.
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"Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities."
I understand the concept, but it's looking more and more likely every day that MY bias on Trump is more accurate than theirs
In reference to your original comment, I agree.

A whole lot of nothing will come of this. I just wish he would ignore all these sidelining attempts and continue what he promised to do.

The funny thing about the MSM, internet trolls and the Libs you mentioned is that if you just ignore them, they eventually get bored and go away.
Just 1 response and "BOOM" they are back like flies on shit.
I agree completely. A whole lot of nothing will come from it. Not because there's nothing to it but because it's no longer possible to hold any individual responsible.
I wish I were the kind of person who took advantage of that


No not really. 
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:23:27 PM EDT
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I made a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXdTb0UOzg

It contains an interesting video clip of Maxine Waters talking about something Obama was doing.
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Isn't the database about voters?
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:24:20 PM EDT
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The story the top line on Drudge.


"NSA To Provide 'Smoking Gun' Proof Obama Spied on Trump...
Gathered, disseminated secret electronic communications prior to inauguration...."

http://www.drudgereport.com/
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:30:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:31:58 PM EDT
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Lock Obama up!
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:38:08 PM EDT
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Fox News Reports. Bears repeating.

Tsk tsk Obama. "Incidental"  no.  Using any FISA court authorization as their fig leaf cover.
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Fox News Reports. Bears repeating.

 The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.
Tsk tsk Obama. "Incidental"  no.  Using any FISA court authorization as their fig leaf cover.
Even more fun is that it appears that Nunes is not showing other intel committee members or the intelligence agencies what he already has - so if they fail to produce anything he already has, he can nail them.  That seems to be part of why he went straight to Trump.  And there are reportedly MULTIPLE sources for what he has, not just the one whistleblower Larry Klayman is representing.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:43:14 PM EDT
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Those who did it and ordered it should be jailed drawn and quartered, fried, hung by the neck until dead, or worse.  I look forward to THEIR "unmasking."
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FIFY

I look forward to their unmasking, as well.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:46:32 PM EDT
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Probably.

But why would Obama be doing that to begin with?
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 9:47:04 PM EDT
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Those who did it and ordered it should be jailed drawn and quartered, fried, hung by the neck until dead, or worse.  I look forward to THEIR "unmasking."
FIFY

I look forward to their unmasking, as well.
In the past I would have said "no fucking way", but with Trump...we must might see it happen. 
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 10:04:51 PM EDT
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Are the never-trumpers awaiting their next talking point memo?
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 10:15:38 PM EDT
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This seems worth repeating. Please read the linked open letter from Larry Klayman.

Scary stuff.
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Trying to get through all 11 pages, and sorry if this is a dupe.
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/freedom-watch-march-21-letter-to-chairman-nunes-and-other-me
Interesting letter about the whistle blower. I checked with Wiki, and if the same person, I don't know how reliable or truthful he is.
This seems worth repeating. Please read the linked open letter from Larry Klayman.

Scary stuff.
The only government whistle blower I ever meet is deader than worm food today. Something about his CPAP machine. Interesting...
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 10:18:39 PM EDT
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They are turning on the rotors, bro. Hope you bounce good.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 10:29:20 PM EDT
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In the past I would have said "no fucking way", but with Trump...we must might see it happen. 
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These days I'm a bigger Dilbert (Scott Adams) fan, and a bigger KEK (GKET) fan than ever.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 11:23:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/23/2017 11:28:02 PM EDT
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I don't understand how the NeverTrumpers can be against this one. Trump is destroying the leftist media and exposing the corruption within the Obama Administration and the Intelligence Community. He just pulled the drain plug on The Swamp! 

What do you people want? Do you want The Swamp?
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 11:42:19 PM EDT
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So Nunes doesn't even know if these communications were with Trump associates or about Trump associates. If two foreign surveillance targets are talking about a U.S. person, is that information even incidental collection?  Do minimization procedures even apply for a third party? And then he apologized to his committee today. What a shitshow.
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This story just keeps getting weirder...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intel-chair-devin-nunes-unsure-trump-associates-directly/story?id=46325928

The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, R-Calif., does not know "for sure" whether President Donald Trump or members of his transition team were even on the phone calls or other communications now being cited as partial vindication for the president’s wiretapping claims against the Obama administration, according to a spokesperson.

"He said he'll have to get all the documents he requested from the [intelligence community] about this before he knows for sure," a spokesperson for Nunes said Thursday. Nunes was a member of the Trump transition team executive committee.

At a press conference yesterday, Nunes announced he obtained "dozens of reports" showing the U.S. intelligence community -- through its "normal foreign surveillance" -- "incidentally collected information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition."

But Nunes never said Trump or any of the president's associates personally participated in the communications that were intercepted.
So Nunes doesn't even know if these communications were with Trump associates or about Trump associates. If two foreign surveillance targets are talking about a U.S. person, is that information even incidental collection?  Do minimization procedures even apply for a third party? And then he apologized to his committee today. What a shitshow.
If that "third party" is a U.S. citizen?  You're damn right it applies.    The unmasking had better result in some heads rolling.

Yeah, he apologized.  Deflect to the procedural faux pas, rookie, it's REALLY important... You & your tag-team buddy are awesome at this.  No, really.  Slapstick at it's finest.  
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 12:07:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 12:07:40 AM EDT
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They are turning on the rotors, bro. Hope you bounce good.
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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 12:12:35 AM EDT
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I wish I were the kind of person who took advantage of that


No not really. 
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"Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities."
I understand the concept, but it's looking more and more likely every day that MY bias on Trump is more accurate than theirs
In reference to your original comment, I agree.

A whole lot of nothing will come of this. I just wish he would ignore all these sidelining attempts and continue what he promised to do.

The funny thing about the MSM, internet trolls and the Libs you mentioned is that if you just ignore them, they eventually get bored and go away.
Just 1 response and "BOOM" they are back like flies on shit.
I agree completely. A whole lot of nothing will come from it. Not because there's nothing to it but because it's no longer possible to hold any individual responsible.
I wish I were the kind of person who took advantage of that


No not really. 
Drama I know, but it seems as if it's that way (for those other than us peons).
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 12:40:51 AM EDT
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Jay Sekulow was on Hannity tonight and was saying that if they want answers they should convene a grand jury and subpoena obama himself.  He also said that this is a constitutional crises that is on Comey and the obama administration.  Hannity's guest, Sara Carter, who has been working on this story for weeks said that this goes all the way to the top of the former administration/white house.  I think there is likely to be a grand jury if even half of what is being said turns out to be true. 

Like all of you, I can't wait to see what the NSA is supposed to be giving to Nunes tomorrow.  I hold hope that people will be going to prison.  If they don't go to prison their lives will be ruined to the point that they will wish they were in prison because their bullshit will be on display for everyone to see how they violated the civil rights of President Trump, his family, Trump campaign officials, and the Trump transition team.

May all of the filthy fucking commies who did this rot in hell.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 12:52:55 AM EDT
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FBIAnon is correct again?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 12:57:44 AM EDT
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The Obama Wiretapping Scandal Part 3: It's High Nunes
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:05:04 AM EDT
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Creepy the way that's played itself out...
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:05:13 AM EDT
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Thanks lad.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:19:18 AM EDT
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Thanks both of you...I forgot about her saying that until I saw it again...makes you wonder how much stuff they have actually done...
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:26:37 AM EDT
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Comey is still digging his grave all the way China.  I'd say Trump is starting to think about new candidates to be FBI Director  at this moment.
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The funny thing is Trump's name is on the shovel!

Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:28:13 AM EDT
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Purely hypothetical, but wouldn't it be just delicious if McCain and Graham are implicated as being complicit in the collection and dissemination of surveillance on Trump?

Of course, assuming there is a smoking gun and we get to a Grand Jury.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:30:11 AM EDT
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DU talking points scheduled for after the Trump bugging revelations...

The NiT's get cranked up afterwards...
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:34:46 AM EDT
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You would have to be a "Window licking Chowder Head" screaming "I like tater tots" to not believe that Trump was not tapped

by the Chocolate looking Jugg Eared Bastard.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:47:48 AM EDT
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Purely hypothetical, but wouldn't it be just delicious if McCain and Graham are implicated as being complicit in the collection and dissemination of surveillance on Trump?

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I would be smiling at their demise.  Both of them are useless as Republicans.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 2:32:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 4:05:00 AM EDT
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Even more fun is that it appears that Nunes is not showing other intel committee members or the intelligence agencies what he already has - so if they fail to produce anything he already has, he can nail them.  That seems to be part of why he went straight to Trump.  And there are reportedly MULTIPLE sources for what he has, not just the one whistleblower Larry Klayman is representing.
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Fox News Reports. Bears repeating.

 The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.
Tsk tsk Obama. "Incidental"  no.  Using any FISA court authorization as their fig leaf cover.
Even more fun is that it appears that Nunes is not showing other intel committee members or the intelligence agencies what he already has - so if they fail to produce anything he already has, he can nail them.  That seems to be part of why he went straight to Trump.  And there are reportedly MULTIPLE sources for what he has, not just the one whistleblower Larry Klayman is representing.
This above from Lone Wolf is correct. Nunes, after getting the whistle-blower info had a choice. Take information to committee, which has Obama's syncofants / minions on it, or take information straight to press conference in hallway, to speaker and then Trump.

Nunes knows he can't trust some of the members on his own committee and not allowing them this information would allow the whistle-blower and information to be guarded instead of known more widely.

If the committee is truly investigating for fraud, why haven't they all clamored to the smoke that Nunes has found then?

Answer is because there are so many people you can't trust, in that city on the hill and Nunes knows that people and evidence both disappear for no known reason.

This shit is fixing to get real and the POTUS, his immediate staff and Atty General Sessions are fixing to light some people up with a magnifying glass.

My hope is that the evidence can be gathered before the Obama minions suppress or destroy it and that the whistle blowers are guarded so they don't meet some untimely payoff or accident heading home from work.

We're at the cusp of uncovering deceit and treasonous actions of an entire previous POTUS staff and the significance itself, is enough for the socialist's to pull all strings to suppress or eliminate.

ETA - From Nunes first presser on these interesting findings, he has had this stoic look on his face. Almost akin to an " I just saw the truth behind Area 51 " look. He truly looked like he had seen a ghost or a nasty / fatal vehicle accident right in front of him.

There is some heavy stuff fixing to be revealed to the light of day.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 4:08:43 AM EDT
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This is fucking unreal. I am sitting here at 1am PDT watching these.

What an incredible time. I have absolutely no idea what is going to happen next. I feel like if there is an internal war within certain US agencies, we are witnessing the mustering of forces for a virtual Waterloo or Gettysburg.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 4:12:39 AM EDT
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This is fucking unreal. I am sitting here at 1am PDT watching these.

What an incredible time. I have absolutely no idea what is going to happen next. I feel like if there is an internal war within certain US agencies, we are witnessing the mustering of forces for a virtual Waterloo or Gettysburg.
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+1

Trump was elected to get in there and shake up government.  Delivering bigly.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 4:31:48 AM EDT
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Watching this develop while over visiting Rome.  Local stations still reporting just the Russian/election stuff.   This is insane.   I can't think of anytime in my life I've seen this kind of shit get the lights turned on it.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 4:41:34 AM EDT
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Watching this develop while over visiting Rome.  Local stations still reporting just the Russian/election stuff.   This is insane.   I can't think of anytime in my life I've seen this kind of shit get the lights turned on it.
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Strap your ass to the rocket sled broski, it is gonna be an enlightening 20 years.

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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:35:50 AM EDT
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Obama Spied, Comey Lied !!!

lol
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:41:09 AM EDT
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That's a spicy meatball.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:45:38 AM EDT
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They are turning on the rotors, bro. Hope you bounce good.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:46:50 AM EDT
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They are turning on the rotors, bro. Hope you bounce good.
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My safe space , can't take a joke?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:55:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:45:55 AM EDT
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I've been assured, repeatedly,  that Trump was lying.

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Nah, now our never trump fucktard brethren on arfcom?...
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:29:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:59:42 AM EDT
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As much as I hate the previous admin and hope they get what they deserve, but I'd rather see McCain and graham get fingered in this effort.  They are a bunch of tools of the left.  Get someone in there that wants to make America great again. 
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 8:06:04 AM EDT
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Just checking in.
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This above from Lone Wolf is correct. Nunes, after getting the whistle-blower info had a choice. Take information to committee, which has Obama's syncofants / minions on it, or take information straight to press conference in hallway, to speaker and then Trump.

Nunes knows he can't trust some of the members on his own committee and not allowing them this information would allow the whistle-blower and information to be guarded instead of known more widely.

If the committee is truly investigating for fraud, why haven't they all clamored to the smoke that Nunes has found then?

Answer is because there are so many people you can't trust, in that city on the hill and Nunes knows that people and evidence both disappear for no known reason.

This shit is fixing to get real and the POTUS, his immediate staff and Atty General Sessions are fixing to light some people up with a magnifying glass.

My hope is that the evidence can be gathered before the Obama minions suppress or destroy it and that the whistle blowers are guarded so they don't meet some untimely payoff or accident heading home from work.

We're at the cusp of uncovering deceit and treasonous actions of an entire previous POTUS staff and the significance itself, is enough for the socialist's to pull all strings to suppress or eliminate.

ETA - From Nunes first presser on these interesting findings, he has had this stoic look on his face. Almost akin to an " I just saw the truth behind Area 51 " look. He truly looked like he had seen a ghost or a nasty / fatal vehicle accident right in front of him.

There is some heavy stuff fixing to be revealed to the light of day.
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I pray you're right and that the house of cards of the corrupt media the demonic left and much of the right is decimated.
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