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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:36:19 PM EDT
[#1]
I just woke up. Recently I woke up again. Now I stay woked.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:37:15 PM EDT
[#2]
Yup. Voted Kerry in 2004 because fuck Bush (I may have voted Gore in 2000 since it was the first election I was old enough to vote in).
Joined here in 2005. Mind blown. Been voting Republican since. I will say that I was not really politically aware until well into my twenties. I just didn't care about it and to some degree I still don't. The machine will grind on regardless of how we vote. That's what I liked so much about Trump. He seemed like a real monkey wrench in "the plan." |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:39:11 PM EDT
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Nope, I've always been to the far right (loved Reagan at the age of 10) and seem to get further that way each year.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:40:40 PM EDT
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Yeah... no. Started out a conservative, now a libertarian.
I'd read "1984" by the time I was 15, along with 'Animal Farm," "Anthem," and "Brave New World." No way I was ever gonna be a lefty. 
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:42:13 PM EDT
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No. I was always smart.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:42:25 PM EDT
[#6]
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Yeah... no. Started out a conservative, now a libertarian. No way I was ever gonna be a lefty. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:43:15 PM EDT
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I was raised conservative. Thought of liberal ideals but realized that due to human nature, they are terribly flawed.
The only thing that made sense was conservatism/libertarianism. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:43:18 PM EDT
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Yeah... no. Started out a conservative, now a libertarian. I'd read "1984" by the time I was 15, along with 'Animal Farm," "Anthem," and "Brave New World." No way I was ever gonna be a lefty. 
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:44:50 PM EDT
[#9]
No, I was never liberal.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:45:45 PM EDT
[#10]
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Yup. Voted Kerry in 2004 because fuck Bush (I may have voted Gore in 2000 since it was the first election I was old enough to vote in). Joined here in 2005. Mind blown. Been voting Republican since. I will say that I was not really politically aware until well into my twenties. I just didn't care about it and to some degree I still don't. The machine will grind on regardless of how we vote. That's what I liked so much about Trump. He seemed like a real monkey wrench in "the plan." I have always been fiscally conservative and pro gun and politically aware to some extent at least since I was about 12. My uncles took me and my brother hunting for the first time when I was 5 and i owned my first rifle at 12. I also have always since I understood things not wanted the Federal Gvt. involved in things as I felt they should be handled by the local gvt. or State. These were my own thoughts as Mother and my Grandmother were both Catholic Liberals. I think most of my views I developed originated from a couple of my uncles. Socially, of course I am fairly liberal liking the D and all  But I do not take things as far as most. I believe bathrooms are for doing your business and not for a social cause. I believe in gay marriage but think it should be up to each individual state, and I do not feel a business should be forced to service anyone they do not wish too (although that is poor business practices)
I also cannot stand SJW's. Around the time I joined here and a few years previous, I mostly gravitated towards the Libertarian way of thinking, but as I learned more about it I realized that i do not agree with several of their points such as open borders. Also that Johnson guy is bat shit cray. Now I have no idea what to even classify myself as. I just know that out of all of the candidates to run this past cycle Trump was the one I most agreed with. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:46:18 PM EDT
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I've had liberal tendencies in the past. Looking back at how naive I was... All I can do is shake my head.
I'm more libertarian than conservative now, but will argue certain points as extreme conservative just to piss some people off even if I don't 100% agree. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:48:41 PM EDT
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I grew up in a Liberal Christian family. Oddly enough first time I shot a gun was after meeting my wife in college. Her FIL brought us out clay shooting. Been hooked since then.
Wife voted for Hillary  She also stood by me since her whole libtard family went full retard on me since I didn't We are not on speaking terms with most of them
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:51:13 PM EDT
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I grew up in a Liberal Christian family. Oddly enough first time I shot a gun was after meeting my wife in college. Her FIL brought us out clay shooting. Been hooked since then. Wife voted for Hillary She also stood by me since her whole libtard family went full retard on me since I didn't We are not on speaking terms with most of themI've left her speechless a few times over the gun rights issue. Facts and history are a wonderful weapon. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:51:38 PM EDT
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Thought I was a liberal in college because I disliked George w bush.
Turns out I am a libertarian and that actual progressive liberalism is a mental disorder. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:52:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Yup.
Grew up in a democrat family. I started listening to talk radio, and finally could no longer argue with the facts. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:52:27 PM EDT
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Thought I was a liberal in college because I disliked George w bush. Turns out I am a libertarian and that actual progressive liberalism is a mental disorder. I did not Like W. Bush much either. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:53:03 PM EDT
[#17]
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Thought I was a liberal in college because I disliked George w bush. Turns out I am a libertarian and that actual progressive liberalism is a mental disorder.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:53:38 PM EDT
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I started reading a newspaper every day as a teenager, and quickly realized that democrats were lying sacks of shit. Add in the taxes those cocksuckers took out of my 20hrs x $2.34 check and I was firmly anti-democrat by the time I reached voting age.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:55:15 PM EDT
[#19]
So if they take your guns you'll revert back to left wing social values?
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:55:39 PM EDT
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Have any of you ever taken a similar journey politically? Yes, but I'm obviously older than you. I went through that transformation a decade earlier when seeing the Clinton administration with their bullshit. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:57:22 PM EDT
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I am so glad i really never really to be too aware of that time of the Clinton's.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:57:39 PM EDT
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So if they take your guns you'll revert back to left wing social values? Gun rights are important to me but smaller govt and individual liberty is the most important. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:58:33 PM EDT
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I am so glad i really never really to be too aware of that time of the Clinton's. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:59:46 PM EDT
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Not hardly bro. Gun rights are important to me but smaller govt and individual liberty is the most important. They are all of pretty much the same importance to me. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:01:16 PM EDT
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They are all of pretty much the same importance to me. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:04:04 PM EDT
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The state of the libertarian party is pretty depressing now Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah... no. Started out a conservative, now a libertarian. I'd read "1984" by the time I was 15, along with 'Animal Farm," "Anthem," and "Brave New World." No way I was ever gonna be a lefty. That's why I never capitalize it. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:04:56 PM EDT
[#27]
Just a slight swerve to the left after high school but it got countered with a hard right a couple years later.
Pretty conservative myself but more libertarian leaning in my legal point of view. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:05:08 PM EDT
[#28]
I saw the light when I saw all the money withheld from my first paycheck.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:05:24 PM EDT
[#29]
I don't even try to convert leftists anymore I just tell them that my political views are derived from understandings that they neither know nor would they contemplate so let's just leave it at that.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:05:34 PM EDT
[#30]
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Yeah... no. Started out a conservative, now a libertarian. I'd read "1984" by the time I was 15, along with 'Animal Farm," "Anthem," and "Brave New World." No way I was ever gonna be a lefty. This. Raised in a conservative household. Gave up giving a shit about the social conservative issues years ago. Basically I am at the point where I don't care about what other people do provided it has no bearing on my life nor am I expected to pay for it. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:07:09 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm originally from Massachusetts, so when i first received my license I registered as a democrat. As of 2004 i moved out of Massachusetts to join the military i discovered that I am definetly not a democrat, but i have never changed my registeration. I think i became more conservative around the time that i noticed that the government was taking a lot of the money I was busting my ass to make without giving me too much in return.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:09:14 PM EDT
[#32]
The irony is, unbridled capitalism and economic liberty would ultimately give the left just what they want.
On top of that, "conservatives" fight for the things that would eventually end their pipe dream and liberals guard against the things that would give them theirs. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:12:33 PM EDT
[#33]
"I'm a great believer in live and let live."
So, you have also become 100% anti-abortion? |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:13:11 PM EDT
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Have any of you ever taken a similar journey politically? Ahh, well, by the time I was 20 I had read a stack of books 20 feet tall on history, philosophy, economics, etc....mostly the ground laying works. The policies of the soft-brains didn't find amiable growth in my head. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:14:21 PM EDT
[#35]
I was raised in a lightly republican home of farmers and non-union teachers. My parents never pushed their beliefs on my or my siblings. They are small business owners and any increase in regulation tends to be scary and I've over heard a few discussions over the years of them thinking of shutting down because it was becoming more difficult to be profitable. They have been in business for 45 years now, mainly because they dodged the Obamacare employee threshold. So that was my baseline.
After graduating high school and going to college during the 2000 election cycle, I still leaned R. But I began to flirt with the left as I became soured over W's eight years. Let me say, I've always hunted and loved firearms, even though I didn't ever understand why people wanted an MSR. I've always loved hunting rifles and shotguns but really wasn't interested in ARs, AKs or even hand guns until after Obama was in office. I voted for Obama in 2008, I fell for his campaign lies and didn't understand how his agenda would ruin American. I was young enough to blame it on ignorance. After a couple years of D held government, my eyes opened and I saw his goals for what they were. Since then (2010) I have strictly voted R across the board, even if I don't agree with everything on their platform. I've converted my wife from strongly D to voting to MAGA last year. She still leans a little left, but she now sees how the democratic platform isn't sustainable without becoming a socialist state, and we all know how well socialism performs. The recent post election antics drives this home. I applaud people for standing up and speaking their opinion, on both sides. What the D's are doing now is shutting this down by yelling the loudest in the room and calling everyone names. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:14:38 PM EDT
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"I'm a great believer in live and let live." So, you have also become 100% anti-abortion?
I am against late term abortion unless the mothers life is in danger due to complications (Doesn't happen very often) |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:15:03 PM EDT
[#37]
I started mowing lawns for money at about age 7.
$5 for a quarter acre lot. Gas was $0.25 a gallon. I have never been a liberal. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:18:17 PM EDT
[#38]
I was a liberal and a Democrat up until it became clear to me that there was nothing liberal about the DNC, and that leftists hated America and wanted to destroy this country that I loved.
So naturally, I swung as far right as I could politically and got evil black rifles to trigger the leftists
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:18:45 PM EDT
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The irony is, unbridled capitalism and economic liberty would ultimately give the left just what they want. On top of that, "conservatives" fight for the things that would eventually end their pipe dream and liberals guard against the things that would give them theirs. That is why it is so funny. Conservatives want small government and reduced spending, but also each one their pet social program, and an almost unanimous belief in universal suffrage, so that every hooplehead who cannot even manage their own lives has a "right" to have an influence in the management of the vast workings of a continental economic power. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:19:49 PM EDT
[#40]
I was always conservative but in my college years I supported Democrats for local offices and Republicans for national ones.
I haven't voted for a Democrat for any office since 1990 or so. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:26:19 PM EDT
[#41]
I am a social liberal and fiscal conservative...always have been. This is the mix that results in the least amount of .gov intervention in our daily lives.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:26:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Nope, not me.
I grew up during the Cold war and I remember the old promises and failures of communism and socialism. I was raised by and around men with 8th grade education's, that fought for this country, and started and ran personal businesses for 30+ years after wars. Most had nothing but worked hard to build their livelihood to provide food, clothes and shelter for their families. No government can give you those things, only take them away. I work with an older men that grew up in Soviet occupied Poland and he has nothing good to say about socialism/communism. I don't recall ever meeting an immigrant from the old Soviet block with anything good to say about socialism. I've never met anyone that was the 1% within the system either. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:28:26 PM EDT
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I pulled for Democrats as a kid and through high school. Being born to a single mother certainly had a big impact on that. Then I just sat in the middle for a number of years before I actually started reading about economics and the such. This led me down a path where I've gone through libertarianism and to full blown voluntaryism.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:34:26 PM EDT
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The state of the libertarian party is pretty depressing now It's very depressing. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:35:48 PM EDT
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I started out as a republican, now I'm a conservatarian.
I used to be anti-abortion (I still don't like it, but it's mostly leftists killing their children so it's a wash) anti-gay (I'm indifferent now), and anti-drugs (legalize it and tax it like booze). I've gone farther to the right on other issues: gun control, small govt, non-interventionist... I have voted for a few democrats in local elections, but none in the last decade. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:38:30 PM EDT
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I saw the light when I saw all the money withheld from my first paycheck. Its honestly my #1 motivating factor. I fucking hate looters. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:39:08 PM EDT
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I have always been fiscally conservative and pro gun and politically aware to some extent at least since I was about 12. My uncles took me and my brother hunting for the first time when I was 5 and i owned my first rifle at 12. I also have always since I understood things not wanted the Federal Gvt. involved in things as I felt they should be handled by the local gvt. or State. These were my own thoughts as Mother and my Grandmother were both Catholic Liberals. I think most of my views I developed originated from a couple of my uncles. Socially, of course I am fairly liberal liking the D and all But I do not take things as far as most. I believe bathrooms are for doing your business and not for a social cause. I believe in gay marriage but think it should be up to each individual state, and I do not feel a business should be forced to service anyone they do not wish too (although that is poor business practices)
I also cannot stand SJW's. Around the time I joined here and a few years previous, I mostly gravitated towards the Libertarian way of thinking, but as I learned more about it I realized that i do not agree with several of their points such as open borders. Also that Johnson guy is bat shit cray. Now I have no idea what to even classify myself as. I just know that out of all of the candidates to run this past cycle Trump was the one I most agreed with. Wow, I though I was the only one with liberal catholic parents. And the bathroom thing will be my new "end of conversation" with the topic. My dear old dad, bought me my first bb gun at about 8yo, let me walk the deer lease during the day with a .22 at the age of 10yr (I'd come back with a mess of squirrels to fry). Long guns with wooden stocks were not a problem. Best friends, supported me and taught me everything about life.. I had been indoctrinate in the the bat shit crazy way of thinking. Fast forward 20 years, with me and my own to take care of and The Donald putting his name in the hat. Dad was over for a visit, asked him "Hey, what do you think about Trump" He looked at me kinda goofy eyed and sad he's great. I carried on with what I liked about him and he responded that he hoped The Don would get the nomination as Hillery would mop the floor with him and some Hitler reference. This and his off the chart, really bat shit crazy, ultra divine will religious ideas, we haven't spoke in about 8 months. "I don't care about guns, I don't care about who is president, DIVINE WILL is all I care about" was the last words I heard from him. Alright, later. Classify. Some Canadian did a rather accurate sum up a year and a half ago or so (someone post link if you have it). There are many poles holding up each tent. No conscious person is head strong in all of them, but enough in each to keep the top up. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:40:55 PM EDT
[#48]
I voted for Bill Clinton so he could take away those evil Republicans' guns.
Yes, people change. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:45:23 PM EDT
[#49]
Yup. It's called growing up.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:47:48 PM EDT
[#50]
I was never a liberal (as we know them today) but early in life I was a democrat, mainly because I was raised by my parents who were democrats.
I quickly changed my views once I left home and was on my own, but as a democrat I was never really politically active. |
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