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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:49:22 PM EDT
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SAPI plate or stay home?
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:49:28 PM EDT
[#2]
yeah, that's real retarded OP.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:51:16 PM EDT
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I wonder if public schools have any issues with body armor in their zero tolerance, pop tart looks like a gun you're suspended, socialist utopias?
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:51:17 PM EDT
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Is your kid tier 1?
Colion Noir does it. No thank you. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:52:15 PM EDT
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That would be an exciting conversation with a bunch of liberal ban state cops, teachers and social workers
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:52:15 PM EDT
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Last night while getting my kids ready for the next day I noticed both their backpack have what would be a "laptop pouch". Curiously I measured and was surprised that they appear to be perfect fit to a 10x12 shooters cut plate. These are just ole Walmart backpacks BTW not some high-speed pack. Anybody done this and actually trained your kids what it's for? Anybody call you crazy? Arfcom will probably call you crazy |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:54:39 PM EDT
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You should attach a lighting rod and ground strap to your kid's backpack, too
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:58:19 PM EDT
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Absolutely. I've actually considered it.
Kid attends CPS, so... 
Sometimes shit gets real. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:59:22 PM EDT
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That would be a good way to get the backpack stolen.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:04:51 PM EDT
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Statistically speaking, your child is safer in school than in your home. In fact, you are more likely to murder your child than a school shooter is.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:06:58 PM EDT
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That would be an exciting conversation with a bunch of liberal ban state cops, teachers and social workers So, soft armor then? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:08:46 PM EDT
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I'd spend time teaching my kid not to be paralyzed by fear and boosting cardio to run faster longer.
Always sad to see so many people kneel down while a shooter is walking through a school or mall or wherever. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:10:05 PM EDT
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I've seriously considered putting soft IIIa armor in my pack. Why the hell not? Its not illegal, even in Cali. Rifle plates I wouldn't do, but just because they're heavy and inflexible.
I'm not getting the naysayers... 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:10:29 PM EDT
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Until it happens to you. ;)
I had the unfortunate opportunity to live through a school shooting. May 20, 1999 a month after columbine. I was in 10th grade. I witnessed 6 people get shot, including one 3 feet away from me as we were running for cover. There were multiple students who's book bags had bullets lodged in the school books inside their backpacks. Shooter used a sawed off 22lr , & a 357 magnum. Luckily almost everyone was hit in lower extremities because he was firing from the hip. I still remember every second, the images. Sounded like fireworks, we thought it was a prank until people started gettting hit. So yes I recommend a soft panel armor insert. A plate would probably give them back problems along with their heavy ass books. I don't know. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:11:29 PM EDT
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If that new light weight foam really works...I will foam everything...just because...
and my kid is grown so I don't think she let me mess with her backpack 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:11:34 PM EDT
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I guess if you plan on getting shot in the back. /shrug
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:12:06 PM EDT
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I have one of the London Bridge trading backpacks in wolf grey with a 3A soft plate in it that I plan on giving my little guy when he is older for school use.
I will replace the plate and close up where the plate slides in and it looks just like a regular backpack, we plan on sending him to a private school but may go public for a little while till we find the school we want him to end up at. Also helps the schools in our area are some of the highest rated in the state and have little to no problems but I want that added little bit of security for him even if he never needs it |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:12:29 PM EDT
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So, soft armor then? yep pistol rated soft plates would be the way to go 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:15:00 PM EDT
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I guess if you plan on getting shot in the back. /shrug Well, given that any kid with an ounce of brains would be trying to in-ass the area, shot in the back really isn't hard to imagine, is it? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:16:06 PM EDT
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Well, given that any kid with an ounce of brains would be trying to in-ass the area, shot in the back really isn't hard to imagine, is it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if you plan on getting shot in the back. /shrug Well, given that any kid with an ounce of brains would be trying to in-ass the area, shot in the back really isn't hard to imagine, is it? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:17:51 PM EDT
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People should be more concerned and active about what the public education system is putting in their kids brains. Just sayin
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:18:53 PM EDT
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Statistically speaking, your child is safer in school than in your home. In fact, you are more likely to murder your child than a school shooter is. Liberals use the same logic and tactic to argue why you shouldn't own a gun.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:19:04 PM EDT
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Its sad we have to have these think tanks.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:20:35 PM EDT
[#24]
Only with knowledge.
Kids' backpacks are already too heavy, enough to cause heealth issues over time. I'm not adding another 2 books worth to that. If I thought my kid's school was that dangerous I wouldn't be sending them there. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:22:55 PM EDT
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I've seen book bags (nap sack style) for sale which have soft armor built-in.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:22:56 PM EDT
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Only with knowledge. Kids' backpacks are already too heavy, enough to cause heealth issues over time. I'm not adding another 2 books worth to that. If I thought my kid's school was that dangerous I wouldn't be sending them there. They make small inserts perfect for backpacks, weigh 1lb. https://www.hardwirellc.com/collections/school-office/products/bulletproof-insert |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:23:17 PM EDT
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And at the said time of shooting he just happens to have his backpack? Ok right. Just stop with this stupidity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if you plan on getting shot in the back. /shrug Well, given that any kid with an ounce of brains would be trying to in-ass the area, shot in the back really isn't hard to imagine, is it? I'm not arguing whether it's stupid or not, but in many schools now, they've done away with lockers so the kids are always carrying backpacks. Personally I wouldn't feel the need to armor my kid's backpack, but do whatever you want with yours. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:25:33 PM EDT
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Even back in the 80's the close protection / executive protection
teams were having soft body armor panels sewn discreetly into the backpacks of their clients children. It's not something that is advertised a lot to the general public but they have been used in various parts of the world for some time. The latest soft armor is even easier to add to existing backpacks as an insert / divider. Some states actually outlaw body armor on school grounds but they didn't really think it out in regards to shielding the students. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:28:33 PM EDT
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Until it happens to you. ;) I had the unfortunate opportunity to live through a school shooting. May 20, 1999 a month after columbine. I was in 10th grade. I witnessed 6 people get shot, including one 3 feet away from me as we were running for cover. There were multiple students who's book bags had bullets lodged in the school books inside their backpacks. Shooter used a sawed off 22lr , & a 357 magnum. Luckily almost everyone was hit in lower extremities because he was firing from the hip. I still remember every second, the images. Sounded like fireworks, we thought it was a prank until people started gettting hit. So yes I recommend a soft panel armor insert. A plate would probably give them back problems along with their heavy ass books. I don't know. Damn, that sucks...I bet you still have dreams about it. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:29:26 PM EDT
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And at the said time of shooting he just happens to have his backpack? Ok right. Just stop with this stupidity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if you plan on getting shot in the back. /shrug Well, given that any kid with an ounce of brains would be trying to in-ass the area, shot in the back really isn't hard to imagine, is it? Huh? When I was in elementary the only time I was without my pack was during recess. Highschool you took it with you everywhere, so I was never without it outisde of gym class. Every other time my pack was right there next to me.
I'd really like someone to actually explain why putting handgun rated soft armor in a pack is a bad idea. Its light, inexpensive (for armor) and could be removed/replaced at any time. Its also not illegal in any place I can think of. So why not? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:31:59 PM EDT
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Liberals use the same logic and tactic to argue why you shouldn't own a gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Statistically speaking, your child is safer in school than in your home. In fact, you are more likely to murder your child than a school shooter is. Liberals use the same logic and tactic to argue why you shouldn't own a gun. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:35:31 PM EDT
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In case you're curious there are several companies selling them.
I'm not affiliated with this company but here is a link. Link to armored backpacks. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:38:01 PM EDT
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Rifle plate, probably not, but I don't see the downside to having a discreet soft body armor panel in the insert if it fits. Weighs next to nothing, very thin, and flexible.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:40:01 PM EDT
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Arfcom will probably call you crazy Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Last night while getting my kids ready for the next day I noticed both their backpack have what would be a "laptop pouch". Curiously I measured and was surprised that they appear to be perfect fit to a 10x12 shooters cut plate. These are just ole Walmart backpacks BTW not some high-speed pack. Anybody done this and actually trained your kids what it's for? Anybody call you crazy? Arfcom will probably call you crazy Yeah I know how GD works as it never happens 30 miles from me |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:40:20 PM EDT
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And at the said time of shooting he just happens to have his backpack? Ok right. Just stop with this stupidity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if you plan on getting shot in the back. /shrug Well, given that any kid with an ounce of brains would be trying to in-ass the area, shot in the back really isn't hard to imagine, is it? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:41:05 PM EDT
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Damn op. What kinda hat do you wear, foil?
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:42:37 PM EDT
[#37]
Deltoid or Groin Protectors are dirt cheap and are just the right size.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:42:53 PM EDT
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So, soft armor then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That would be an exciting conversation with a bunch of liberal ban state cops, teachers and social workers So, soft armor then? If my kids didnt advertise no one would know. Most days their backpacks feel like a plate IS IN THERE. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:43:05 PM EDT
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You should attach a lighting rod and ground strap to your kid's backpack, too I LOL'ed
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:45:20 PM EDT
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And at the said time of shooting he just happens to have his backpack? Ok right. Just stop with this stupidity. if a shooting happens when class is "in" then nowadays they lock doors and do all kinds of silly stuff, but it basically compartmentalizes the situation so either you are in with the BG or you are not. in that case unless the walls are thin the strategy probably works. Now if you consider the mad rush of kids getting to and from school as a point of danger, yes your kid will have a backpack and no they likely wont think to drop it, and yes they will be running away so the backpack will be between the shooter and your kid, so it does make sense for that part. If you used soft armor but it isn't wrapped around your kid, but rather flapping in the wind at the back, will that work correctly? a hard plate would, but I thought soft armor required a medium behind it to absorb some of the energy? begs for further investigation IMHO. eta - read some of the product descriptions offered, and honestly they seem like a pretty good setup. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:45:50 PM EDT
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yeah, that's real retarded OP. My kid will have one when she goes. How can you justify carrying concealed or even owning a fire extinguisher without seeing the benefit of this type of product coupled with proper training? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:47:55 PM EDT
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Huh? When I was in elementary the only time I was without my pack was during recess. Highschool you took it with you everywhere, so I was never without it outisde of gym class. Every other time my pack was right there next to me.
I'd really like someone to actually explain why putting handgun rated soft armor in a pack is a bad idea. Its light, inexpensive (for armor) and could be removed/replaced at any time. Its also not illegal in any place I can think of. So why not? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if you plan on getting shot in the back. /shrug Well, given that any kid with an ounce of brains would be trying to in-ass the area, shot in the back really isn't hard to imagine, is it? Huh? When I was in elementary the only time I was without my pack was during recess. Highschool you took it with you everywhere, so I was never without it outisde of gym class. Every other time my pack was right there next to me.
I'd really like someone to actually explain why putting handgun rated soft armor in a pack is a bad idea. Its light, inexpensive (for armor) and could be removed/replaced at any time. Its also not illegal in any place I can think of. So why not? The only person in this thread to have experienced a school shooting thinks it's a viable idea. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:48:15 PM EDT
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I'd spend time teaching my kid not to be paralyzed by fear and boosting cardio to run faster longer. Always sad to see so many people kneel down while a shooter is walking through a school or mall or wherever. The SOP nowadays is secure the room, huttle in a corner, and await LEO for evac so really kids aren't running until evac. In analyzing this, there are several times a day my kids are separated from their book bags (lunchroom, bathroom, PE, etc) |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:48:37 PM EDT
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Liberals use the same logic and tactic to argue why you shouldn't own a gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Statistically speaking, your child is safer in school than in your home. In fact, you are more likely to murder your child than a school shooter is. Liberals use the same logic and tactic to argue why you shouldn't own a gun. Meh, do what you want. Maybe you can purée all your kid's food so they don't choke. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:55:37 PM EDT
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In case you're curious there are several companies selling them. I'm not affiliated with this company but here is a link. Link to armored backpacks. Thanks. I was already aware of those as I had stumbled on to them before. It was the discovery that my kids packs appear to be perfectly 10x12 shooters cut and lined as they are run of the mill Walmart bags. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:57:24 PM EDT
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I went to school before backpacks
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Posted: 2/24/2017 2:01:37 PM EDT
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I don't think it's a terrible idea if you want to spend the money on it. I wouldn't put a plate in my kids packs but a 10 x 12 iiia insert is light and probably wouldn't even be noticed. The chance of it being useful is pretty low but there's not really a downside.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 2:02:12 PM EDT
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Huh? <img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_confused.gif" /> When I was in elementary the only time I was without my pack was during recess. Highschool you took it with you everywhere, so I was never without it outisde of gym class. Every other time my pack was right there next to me. I'd really like someone to actually explain why putting handgun rated soft armor in a pack is a <i>bad </i>idea. Its light, inexpensive (for armor) and could be removed/replaced at any time. Its also not illegal in any place I can think of. So <i>why </i>not? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if you plan on getting shot in the back. /shrug Well, given that any kid with an ounce of brains would be trying to in-ass the area, shot in the back really isn't hard to imagine, is it? Huh? <img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_confused.gif" /> When I was in elementary the only time I was without my pack was during recess. Highschool you took it with you everywhere, so I was never without it outisde of gym class. Every other time my pack was right there next to me. I'd really like someone to actually explain why putting handgun rated soft armor in a pack is a <i>bad </i>idea. Its light, inexpensive (for armor) and could be removed/replaced at any time. Its also not illegal in any place I can think of. So <i>why </i>not? This. My kids are worth more to me than the $300 a soft plate costs. Why would I not do everything I could to protect them? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 2:02:45 PM EDT
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My school shooter training with my son consisted of the following:
If you're doing a school shooting drill at school, do what the teacher tells you to do. Get under your desk. Put a marshmallow in your ear. Hum the National Anthem...whatever. However, If you hear shots, go out the back door of the classroom and run in the opposite direction. Don't stop running. Armoring my kid is just going to slow him down. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 2:04:01 PM EDT
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Nah.
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