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Link Posted: 2/21/2017 7:57:42 AM EDT
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When you're reduced to comparing yourself to Florida, it may be time to rethink your benchmark.


"Come to Sweden! We're not as bad as Florida!!!" doesn't really strike me as the kind of thing you want to put in your travel brochures,
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 8:03:31 AM EDT
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When you're reduced to comparing yourself to Florida, it may be time to rethink your benchmark.


"Come to Sweden! We're not as bad as Florida!!!" doesn't really strike me as the kind of thing you want to put in your travel brochures,
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Link Posted: 2/21/2017 11:05:20 AM EDT
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Was waiting to see if anyone called him out on the "no bias" in his description.
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Tim "still a faggot" Pool? I wish it was somebody who went in with no agenda and just honestly showed what's going on in Sweden.
Was waiting to see if anyone called him out on the "no bias" in his description.




Well apparently Paul Joseph Watson gave him $2,000 to put towards his trip. Maybe he'll do an honest job reporting?
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 11:15:26 AM EDT
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Florida has admitted it might have a problem.

The Swiss have not.

Big difference.
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Switzerland and Sweden are not the same country.
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Yeah but are the Swiss germane to the conversation because I don't understand what this has to do with the damn Germans?
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Florida has admitted it might have a problem.

The Swiss have not.

Big difference.


Yeah but are the Swiss germane to the conversation because I don't understand what this has to do with the damn Germans?

Germans? I thought we were discussing Liechtensteiners.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 11:43:50 AM EDT
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Florida has twice the population.
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Link Posted: 2/21/2017 12:07:52 PM EDT
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I'm genuinely curious what Europeans seek to accomplish by inviting medieval third worlders who are culturally incompatible with them into their country.

They don't want to work, they don't want to integrate, they really seem to like setting shit on fire and running people over with trucks.
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It's a tenet of faith amongst the hard leftists who fervently believe that the destruction of the West is good, because they believe the West is responsible for all the wrongs in the world.

(Not Sweden, but same principles amongst unaccountable leadership.)
German politician OPENLY brag about replacing the German people


See also: How Modern Liberals Think
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 12:16:21 PM EDT
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When discussing per-capita crime rates the relative populations are (in some ways) removed as a variable.  Your now looking at a *rate* of crime, not a *count* of crimes.  Population does play additional roles however in that large concentrations of people in huge cites will generate more crime than a similar distribution of people in far less density.  

We have our own cultural issues that we politically refuse to face that jack our rate of crime by substantial multipliers.  We just are not allowed to address it in an honest way.   Very similar to how it is now in Europe.  Rape has been on a steady increase in Sweden since 2005.  Both the count and the rate have risen disturbingly.   Sweden can either look to address it or continue to insist that it's fine.  Just the new normal.





Any attempt to compare *counts* by FaceBook friends or meme generators of [xyz] crime between one European nation and the entire US should be laughed at.   Compile the numbers over the continent and then you maybe have a comparison.
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marry, marry, marry, marry
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Shit, it's too frigging cold to go out and do crime.  Besides, they got Swedish volleyball teams...
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marry, marry, marry, marry
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They must all be catholic.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 12:49:21 PM EDT
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FL had 5x the annualized Swedish murder rate , halfway through the year.

Sweden averages about 100-125 murders per year for the last Decade. Florida is right around 1000 last few years.

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/cms/FSAC/UCR/2015/CIF_annual15.aspx

The PM appears to be referencing just Orlando area. Some of the previous claims for total FL murders are  incorrect. 

Regardless, as mentioned previous it doesn't address the increases in other crime catagories in Sweden. 
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 1:08:20 PM EDT
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Lets do that.

The closest State in terms of population to Sweden is North Carolina.

In 2016 there were 6560 rapes in Sweden (source)

In 2016 there were 2684 rapes in North Carolina (source)
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Why doesn't he compare a state of similar population? 


Lets do that.

The closest State in terms of population to Sweden is North Carolina.

In 2016 there were 6560 rapes in Sweden (source)

In 2016 there were 2684 rapes in North Carolina (source)


I thought Sweden stopped recording rapes committed by Muslims because it's racist?

Or was that Norway?
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 1:31:01 PM EDT
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Is the rape problem in Sweden as bad as they are making out in the news? Because it sounds like diversification has led to a shit load of rapes. 
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It's certainly a problem, but it's not as common a people make it out to be. We're around the OECD average.

However, out of the rapes that we do have, the majority of perps are non-Swedish.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 1:32:41 PM EDT
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They don't want to work, they don't want to integrate, they really seem to like setting shit on fire and running people over with trucks.
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It's basically the Social Democrats importing voters.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 2:25:10 PM EDT
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Yeah but are the Swiss germane to the conversation because I don't understand what this has to do with the damn Germans?
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They all look alike to me.
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According to Wiki, Sweden has 0.9 homicides per 100,000 people while Wyoming is at 1.4.
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How many of Sweden's homicides occur in Stockholm, Gothenburg, and Malmo vs. Wyoming's in Casper and Cheyenne?
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I thought Sweden stopped recording rapes committed by Muslims because it's racist?

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I think it's both.


One of the two kept records up until recently, then it became taboo to discuss.



Meanwhile, in Rotherham...
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 2:40:54 PM EDT
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Florida Population (2016):  20,271,000

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  Wisconsin and Minnesota lumped together would be an interesting aggregate to compare to Sweden.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 2:56:02 PM EDT
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Florida has more than double the population Sweden has and had the worst terrorist attack on us soil since 9/11 happen last year. 

You think? 

Why doesn't he compare a state of similar population? Is it because he's a lying piece of shit? 

Yes. 
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Like Minnesota. Large white population in a cold fucking climate with lits of Somali immigrants.
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I think it's both.


One of the two kept records up until recently, then it became taboo to discuss.



Meanwhile, in Rotherham...
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I thought Sweden stopped recording rapes committed by Muslims because it's racist?

Or was that Norway?


I think it's both.


One of the two kept records up until recently, then it became taboo to discuss.



Meanwhile, in Rotherham...


I think they just don't release the description or ethnicity of the perps, much like they do here in the media.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 3:02:08 PM EDT
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Hmmm.. let's take a look at the rape statistics,  fucko..
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I'm genuinely curious what Europeans seek to accomplish by inviting medieval third worlders who are culturally incompatible with them into their country.

They don't want to work, they don't want to integrate, they really seem to like setting shit on fire and running people over with trucks.
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A lot of the European Parliaments are packed full of feminist ideologues who have no clue what is going on their own countries, let alone the world.

Everything they see or hear if processed through the angle of women's movement issues made popular in the 1970s, social justice, and popular social causes parroted by socialist professors with no real-world experience in creating things and employing people, or innovating any kind of solutions at all.

That's the underlying problem with government in Europe, as well as the US:  tons of college-savvy imbeciles who have never innovated solutions, but are chalk-full of criticisms of others who have tried and succeeded to varying degrees.
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Wait, that last one is the Swedish Parliament? Jesus, Sweden, you're a country full of ancient buildings. So, why the hell does your legislative branch's building look like an Ikea store??
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 3:22:46 PM EDT
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It's basically the Social Democrats importing voters.
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I'm genuinely curious what Europeans seek to accomplish by inviting medieval third worlders who are culturally incompatible with them into their country.

They don't want to work, they don't want to integrate, they really seem to like setting shit on fire and running people over with trucks.


It's basically the Social Democrats importing voters.
Just like here.
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It's certainly a problem, but it's not as common a people make it out to be. We're around the OECD average.

However, out of the rapes that we do have, the majority of perps are non-Swedish.
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Serious question:

Is the rape problem in Sweden as bad as they are making out in the news? Because it sounds like diversification has led to a shit load of rapes. 


It's certainly a problem, but it's not as common a people make it out to be. We're around the OECD average.

However, out of the rapes that we do have, the majority of perps are non-Swedish.


Without the invaders your crime rate would be statistically zero.

Except for burning straw goats.   Fucking arsonists.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 3:26:36 PM EDT
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Wait, that last one is the Swedish Parliament? Jesus, Sweden, you're a country full of ancient buildings. So, why the hell does your legislative branch's building look like an Ikea store??
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The Parliament building is fairly recent. It was built fron 1897 to 1905, and has been remodeled since.

The interior is shit but the exterior is pretty nice:

Link Posted: 2/21/2017 3:27:43 PM EDT
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There is one question that is relevant to us in this discussion:  Does taking in refugees from Muslim countries substantially increase crime?

Looking at overall crime rates and trends isn't relevant without the demographic data to go with it. Yes, we know Sweden has a low crime rate.

That is a diversion. We aren't talking about how many native Swedes go around murdering and raping vs Americans.
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Without the invaders your crime rate would be statistically zero.

Except for burning straw goats.   Fucking arsonists.
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Serious question:

Is the rape problem in Sweden as bad as they are making out in the news? Because it sounds like diversification has led to a shit load of rapes. 


It's certainly a problem, but it's not as common a people make it out to be. We're around the OECD average.

However, out of the rapes that we do have, the majority of perps are non-Swedish.


Without the invaders your crime rate would be statistically zero.

Except for burning straw goats.   Fucking arsonists.


Goat burning is a fine tradition.
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There is one question that is relevant to us in this discussion:  Does taking in refugees from Muslim countries substantially increase crime?

Looking at overall crime rates and trends isn't relevant without the demographic data to go with it. Yes, we know Sweden has a low crime rate.

That is a diversion. We aren't talking about how many native Swedes go around murdering and raping vs Americans.
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Yes.

The same goes for all non-skilled immigration from 3rd World countries.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 3:31:45 PM EDT
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But there's more ikeas in Sweden than in Florida, any connection???
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Yes.

The same goes for all non-skilled immigration from 3rd World countries.
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Why not import Scandinavian descent meth-heads from the US to lounge on your social security hammocks if the Social Democrats are only in it for the votes?
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Yes.

The same goes for all non-skilled immigration from 3rd World countries.
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There is one question that is relevant to us in this discussion:  Does taking in refugees from Muslim countries substantially increase crime?

Looking at overall crime rates and trends isn't relevant without the demographic data to go with it. Yes, we know Sweden has a low crime rate.

That is a diversion. We aren't talking about how many native Swedes go around murdering and raping vs Americans.


Yes.

The same goes for all non-skilled immigration from 3rd World countries.


Except for the crimes of  Islamic terrorism and mass murder,  which is within the sole purview of;  you know who.
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Population of Sweden: 9.5 million

Population of Florida: 19.5 million

Derp
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Why not import Scandinavian descent meth-heads from the US to lounge on your social security hammocks if the Social Democrats are only in it for the votes?
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Yes.

The same goes for all non-skilled immigration from 3rd World countries.
Why not import Scandinavian descent meth-heads from the US to lounge on your social security hammocks if the Social Democrats are only in it for the votes?


Even the Socialists have standards.
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Except for the crimes of  Islamic terrorism and mass murder,  which is within the sole purview of;  you know who.
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True, but we haven't had much of that yet.
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The Parliament building is fairly recent. It was built fron 1897 to 1905, and has been remodeled since.

The interior is shit but the exterior is pretty nice:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Riksdagshuset2014.jpg/1920px-Riksdagshuset2014.jpg
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The exterior is substantially better. Whoever approved that remodeled design of the interior should be beaten.
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Keep diluting your homogeneity with 3rd world cretins who belong to rape cults and get back to us in another decade or so.
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Are we talking about Sweden or Florida now?
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Keep diluting your homogeneity with 3rd world cretins who belong to rape cults and get back to us in another decade or so.


Are we talking about Sweden or Florida now?


I believe the two are virtually indistinguishable at this point.
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Never fear, in a generation or 2 blonde and blue Sweden will be gone...
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There should be a class of US visa for those girls.
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That is true, but it misses the point, which is that a 100% White town in America and a 100% White town in Sweden are going to have virtually identical crime rates. What Trump is really saying is that if Sweden doesn't reduce their foreign immigration, they are going to start seeing the sort of violent crime that is a daily fact of life in large American cities.
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Not exactly. Irish have higher homicide rates than English, suspect Italians do as well. different white European cultures have different homicide rates. Russia is white and has twice as many homicides as the US, with less than half the population, despite strict gun control laws.
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There should be a class of US visa for those girls.
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Never fear, in a generation or 2 blonde and blue Sweden will be gone...


There should be a class of US visa for those girls.


Sorry, we're keeping the blondes.

May I interest you in some swarthy Arabs instead?
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Not exactly. Irish have higher homicide rates than English, suspect Italians do as well. different white European cultures have different homicide rates. Russia is white and has twice as many homicides as the US, with less than half the population, despite strict gun control laws.
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That is true, but it misses the point, which is that a 100% White town in America and a 100% White town in Sweden are going to have virtually identical crime rates. What Trump is really saying is that if Sweden doesn't reduce their foreign immigration, they are going to start seeing the sort of violent crime that is a daily fact of life in large American cities.


Not exactly. Irish have higher homicide rates than English, suspect Italians do as well. different white European cultures have different homicide rates. Russia is white and has twice as many homicides as the US, with less than half the population, despite strict gun control laws.


Russians are Slavs, and Slavs aren't white though.
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Florida also has much more diversity. Homicide rate is mostly about who lives there.
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I'm not and I have no problem with Sweden taking in all the unvetted refugees if they want to.............ain't my problem.

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If they want to commit cultural suicide I would like to send them and the rest of the Euros 11-30 million Mexican and South American refugees as well.
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Florida has more than twice the population of Sweden.
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True, but we haven't had much of that yet.
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Except for the crimes of  Islamic terrorism and mass murder,  which is within the sole purview of;  you know who.



True, but we haven't had much of that yet.


"Much"....."Yet".

You ain't seen bad "yet" but it's comin'; and the people of your country as well as your government  are playing the roles of willing enablers which is not the smartest path to travel down.

Your choice and you're welcome to it.
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Pretty funny when you consider that the number of murders in Florida was much higher last year due to an Islamic terrorist attack on a gay night club.
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I wouldn't say much higher, because in 2015 Florida had over 1000 murders. It doesn't help, but it only bumped it up by around 5%. Florida has a high murder rate, even higher than Texas and CA.

The only state that comes close to the murder rate of Sweden is New Hampshire, at 1.1. Seems like the New England area has fairly low crime rates. Shame what WA and OR are passing more gun laws even though they have low murder rates.
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30+ grenade attacks?  I want a flippin' grenade!
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