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Posted: 2/17/2017 1:30:06 PM EDT
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Not many details of what happened, but here are the charges.
#1 ASSAULT 3RD DEG STATUTE: #163.165 ( Felony) #2 NEGLIGENTLY WOUNDING ANOTHER STATUTE: #166.180 ( Misdemeanor) #3 UNLAWFUL USE OF WEAPON STATUTE: #166.220 ( Felony) #4 RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING STATUTE: #163.195 ( Misdemeanor) |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 1:30:12 PM EDT
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Nevermind
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Posted: 2/17/2017 1:52:55 PM EDT
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The light and red dot are no issue but I don't think the comp on my g35 does anything without super hot ammo. I can't imagine the 9mm making a real difference except in people's heads. Even if you are building open guns you will hear plenty of people talking about needing more gas to "drive" a comp. 38 supercomp, 40L, 9 major get use out of them I guess but I was thoroughly underwhelmed and can't imagine that it does a lot with a normal 9. If comps with Minor ammo didn't do a thing, they would not be used in events without Major scoring. Having shot several different 9 Major pistols with factory standard pressure ammo, it's obvious to me a comp is much better than without one. The difference between a slow powder Major load and a medium burn rate powder factory load is much smaller than the difference between a comp and no comp. For load development and other purposes, I've also shot quite a few (several thousands) of rounds of 9 Major ammo from an otherwise identical pistol but without a comp (and so also with heavier springs). However, you need some level of experience with pistols in general to feel the differences. Most less experienced shooters are unable to tell 10% differences in momentum (PF) between two loads or between the powder burn rate of two loads with the same bullet momentum but a very different recoil impulse (and total recoil) due to a say 25% difference in the powder charge weight. It should be noted though that the recoil difference from a compensator is not all from the different vectors of the muzzle pressure, but also due to increased barrel mass, different timing and different springing. You could get some significant percentage of the effect by simply screwing or welding a barrel weight of the same mass as the comp, but using the same springs as the comped pistol. Personally I would not carry a comped pistol for self defense because of the hearing damage and concussion issue. A much better solution for improvements in recoil control for a CCW pistol is the exact opposite, a heavy bullet fast powder load that has less recoil than a factory load (for the same momentum), but at the same time produces much _less_ muzzle pressure. A huge comp in a HD rifle is a very good thing, because you are assured to have hearing protection on when using it. A CCW piece, not so much. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 1:53:07 PM EDT
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Not many details of what happened, but here are the charges. #1 ASSAULT 3RD DEG STATUTE: #163.165 ( Felony) #2 NEGLIGENTLY WOUNDING ANOTHER STATUTE: #166.180 ( Misdemeanor) #3 UNLAWFUL USE OF WEAPON STATUTE: #166.220 ( Felony) #4 RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING STATUTE: #163.195 ( Misdemeanor) I hope that he gets past this and all involved heal up well. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 1:59:36 PM EDT
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I've known SGM Pressburg for well over 10 years. I consider him a friend and have a great deal of respect for him. Chuck is the real deal. From Rangers to AWG and then recently retired from the CAG. He made it his mission to be a warrior, and to do his best both to train and equip good guys. The story is vague, no one truly knows what happened least of all folks here. Maybe sit down and give the man who's devoted his life to this country the benifit of innocent until proven guilty. I only know him through P&S, but don't you think that's a bit shitty to throw his background out knowing the man enjoyed his PERSEC? |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 2:04:26 PM EDT
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While Asymmetric Warfare Group dudes (Delta type unit).......... Lol, no. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 2:09:28 PM EDT
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I only know him through P&S, but don't you think that's a bit shitty to throw his background out knowing the man enjoyed his PERSEC? Kevin is aware of what the guy desires with regards to PERSEC. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 2:12:30 PM EDT
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I like how he keeps an AR in the shitter.
He said if he ever gets taken out though a gun in every room won't matter because someone will probably blast him with a shotty through the windows while he's laid back in the recliner. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 2:34:39 PM EDT
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You'd think a guy with a high speed low drag background would know better than to handle a loaded firearm while drinking / getting intoxicated.
No matter that he doesn't care what anybody thinks of him, his podcasts and Facebook page will come up during the inevitable civil proceedings and will cost him a pretty penny. If his chief has any sense, "Roland Special" will be a former reserve officer once he's found guilty of the accidental/negligent assault. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 2:34:45 PM EDT
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AD in to some dudes leg drunk at a bar? Das it mane. Hopefully it's all some misunderstanding but there is little room for alternative interpretation of this in the article (And the charges fit this narrative as well ) Police say Pressburg was intoxicated when he unintentionally discharged a handgun and shot another man in the leg. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 3:19:52 PM EDT
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Maybe Kevin knows, but did "Chuck" used to post over at Lightfighter years ago?
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Posted: 2/17/2017 3:23:20 PM EDT
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Maybe Kevin knows, but did "Chuck" used to post over at Lightfighter years ago? Yes |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 3:24:38 PM EDT
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Maybe Kevin knows, but did "Chuck" used to post over at Lightfighter years ago? Yes Thought so. Thanks. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 3:46:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe Walther PPS comes equipped standard with that. Easy and intuitive to just place your thumb on the back of the slide. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 3:53:31 PM EDT
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The Walther PPS comes equipped standard with that. Easy and intuitive to just place your thumb on the back of the slide. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The Walther PPS comes equipped standard with that. Easy and intuitive to just place your thumb on the back of the slide. I don't think so. I believe that the PPS has an indicator, not a passive safety that one may use to override the striker's movement. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 4:04:39 PM EDT
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So he's just a reserve cop? After all the operator face shooter macho posturing going back months? A part time cop? Boozing and carrying a gun is never the right thing to do. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 4:12:58 PM EDT
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Rossmore Street in Oregon appears residential. Likely not a bar.
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Posted: 2/17/2017 4:20:36 PM EDT
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an "offensive" handgun, used in situations where the only weapon the soldier/agent has is a handgun, for whatever reason. Tubular assaults. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 4:25:36 PM EDT
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I don't think so. I believe that the PPS has an indicator, not a passive safety that one may use to override the striker's movement. Well it may not be a feature, but it works 
The striker moves back a little over 1/8" and you can physically feel it jabbing you. You can stop movement with your thumb. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 4:48:45 PM EDT
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HR218 is a reason some guys hold a reserve officer title. Seems evident on "why".
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Posted: 2/17/2017 4:56:01 PM EDT
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sounds like a complete clusterfuck
The overall "hey guys lets wait and see" vibe is interesting at best and completely fucking left wing-esqe hypocritical at worst when considering that he was combining alcohol/firearms and apparently did so regularly to excess when people get absolutely demolished on here regularly for the same or even less. YMMV though. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:26:07 PM EDT
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sounds like a complete clusterfuck
The overall "hey guys lets wait and see" vibe is interesting at best and completely fucking left wing-esqe hypocritical at worst when considering that he was combining alcohol/firearms and apparently did so regularly to excess when people get absolutely demolished on here regularly for the same or even less. YMMV though. To be fair, if you've ever dealt with a similar situation you know that up-front details can be extremely skewed. I've been in the orbit of similar habbenings, and some of the assumptions that were made by people were completely one-eighty from reality. "Combining" alcohol and firearms could compose very different ends of the spectrum. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:34:39 PM EDT
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How is sticking a reddot, light, and compensator on a gun being an Inventor |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:41:22 PM EDT
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HR218 is a reason some guys hold a reserve officer title. Seems evident on "why". That's what I figured. (and in this person's case, perhaps to better understand the cops that he's teaching. THough i question how much he's learning about be a cop as a reserve officer in a town in New Mexico with a population of 436.) Next question is if some BS reserve gig (Steven Seagal-style) also gives you HR218 privileges without going through a formal academy. Would be kinda shitty if guys are getting hooked up with "reserve officer" gigs in BFE just because the chief wants to rub shoulders with a former action guy. Maybe Pressburg is from there and goes back home to visit folks and pulls some shifts. But I'm guessing its something else. I'm guessing here, but wonder if he befriended that police chief online through his prolific postings and the chief hooked him up. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:47:17 PM EDT
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Maybe Kevin knows, but did "Chuck" used to post over at Lightfighter years ago? I assumed he was the guy that went by Basicload and left Lightfighter the same time the others left Lightfighter to start P&S. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:48:55 PM EDT
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To be fair, if you've ever dealt with a similar situation you know that up-front details can be extremely skewed. I've been in the orbit of similar habbenings, and some of the assumptions that were made by people were completely one-eighty from reality. "Combining" alcohol and firearms could compose very different ends of the spectrum. errr nvr mind. Screw Charles B., all I am gonna say! |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:53:28 PM EDT
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I assumed he was the guy that went by Basicload and left Lightfighter the same time the others left Lightfighter to start P&S. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe Kevin knows, but did "Chuck" used to post over at Lightfighter years ago? I assumed he was the guy that went by Basicload and left Lightfighter the same time the others left Lightfighter to start P&S. Yeah, he went by Basicload over at LF. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:11:22 PM EDT
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I only know him through P&S, but don't you think that's a bit shitty to throw his background out knowing the man enjoyed his PERSEC? You don't know Kevin and you don't know Chuck. I would take that as a clue that maybe you should refrain from commenting. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:24:55 PM EDT
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You don't know Kevin and you don't know Chuck. I would take that as a clue that maybe you should refrain from commenting. +1 |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:30:05 PM EDT
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You don't know Kevin and you don't know Chuck. I would take that as a clue that maybe you should refrain from commenting. +1 That goes for most of the people posting in this thread. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:31:45 PM EDT
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Bannnnnnned in NY! (I think) Alles est in New York gebanned. Alles. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:34:20 PM EDT
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You don't know Kevin and you don't know Chuck. I would take that as a clue that maybe you should refrain from commenting. Relax. Being concerned about PERSEC is never a bad thing. If he doesn't know Kevin or Chuck, then how could he know it was kosher for Kevin to talk about Chuck's background? (it was an open secret that Basicload was SFOD on LF) |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:53:36 PM EDT
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You don't know Kevin and you don't know Chuck. I would take that as a clue that maybe you should refrain from commenting. I can't speak about Chuck, but Lebowski and Kevin and I all know each other. We even did a drive by together after paying our final respects to a mutual friend. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 11:27:33 PM EDT
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http://www.usnews.com/news/oregon/articles/2017-02-17/officer-from-new-mexico-pleads-not-guilty-in-oregon-shooting
EUGENE, Ore. (AP) — A reserve police officer from southeastern New Mexico has pleaded not guilty to charges he shot his brother-in-law in the leg while in Oregon. The Register-Guard newspaper reports (http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/35292810-75/story.csp ) 44-year-old Charles Pressburg entered the pleas Friday in Eugene. He's charged with misdemeanor assault and negligently wounding another. Police wrote in court documents that Pressburg's blood-alcohol level was 0.25 percent about an hour after last week's shooting — more than three times the legal limit for a driver. According to investigators, the victim said the men were drinking when Pressburg pulled out the gun. He said he didn't know why he was shot. Pressburg and his wife allegedly told police the shooting was accidental. The court filing says the victim suffered broken bones in one of his legs. Pressburg has been released on bail. He's a reserve officer in Lake Arthur, New Mexico. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 11:47:16 PM EDT
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http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/35292810-75/story.csp#
Reserve police officer from New Mexico shoots and wounds relative in Eugene during bout of heavy late-night drinking, police say A man identified by Eugene police as a reserve police officer from New Mexico has pleaded not guilty to misdemeanor charges for shooting his brother-in-law in the leg last weekend. Charles Michael Pressburg, 44, entered the pleas Friday in Lane County Circuit Court. Lane County prosecutors have charged him with negligently wounding another and fourth-degree assault. Eugene police officer Neil Biallas wrote in a probable-cause affidavit filed in court that Pressburg’s blood-alcohol level was measured at 0.253 percent roughly one hour after the shooting. That’s more than three times the level at which a driver is automatically considered to be intoxicated, under state law. Biallas wrote that he arrived at the Rossmore Street home to find a 64-year-old man bleeding from a gunshot wound to one leg. Medics said the shot had broken bones in leg, Biallas wrote. The victim’s sister recently married Pressburg, the affidavit says. According to investigators, the victim said he and Pressburg had been drinking when Pressburg twice pulled out a gun. The victim said there was no confrontation between he and Pressburg and “he did not know why (Pressburg had) shot him,” according to the affidavit. Biallas wrote that Pressburg appeared “highly intoxicated” and had initially said he did not know what had happened. Pressburg then told Biallas that he had an “ND,” which prompted Biallas to ask “if by ‘ND’ he meant he shot (the victim) by accident, and he nodded his head up and down.” In law enforcement jargon, ND stands for “negligent discharge.” Biallas said Pressburg “appeared hesitant to respond to my questions and disoriented.” |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 11:57:53 PM EDT
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Maybe Kevin knows, but did "Chuck" used to post over at Lightfighter years ago? Yes. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 12:19:10 AM EDT
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Who hasn't had times where you want to shoot your in-laws?
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Posted: 2/18/2017 1:11:25 AM EDT
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http://www.usnews.com/news/oregon/articles/2017-02-17/officer-from-new-mexico-pleads-not-guilty-in-oregon-shooting EUGENE, Ore. (AP) — A reserve police officer from southeastern New Mexico has pleaded not guilty to charges he shot his brother-in-law in the leg while in Oregon. The Register-Guard newspaper reports (http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/35292810-75/story.csp ) 44-year-old Charles Pressburg entered the pleas Friday in Eugene. He's charged with misdemeanor assault and negligently wounding another. Police wrote in court documents that Pressburg's blood-alcohol level was 0.25 percent about an hour after last week's shooting — more than three times the legal limit for a driver. According to investigators, the victim said the men were drinking when Pressburg pulled out the gun. He said he didn't know why he was shot. Pressburg and his wife allegedly told police the shooting was accidental. The court filing says the victim suffered broken bones in one of his legs. Pressburg has been released on bail. He's a reserve officer in Lake Arthur, New Mexico. I feel for the the victim and Pressburg. The guns should have been put up long before a .25 I'm sure it was a ND. The guy has literally shot millions of rounds through a gun. Hopefully the victim and defendant can work something out with the prosecution. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 1:37:19 AM EDT
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How can a guy that has literally shot millions of rounds through a gun be so stupid
.25 is black out drunk territory and to still be doing that at his age, Jesus. The guy needs some jail time and to get some help. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 1:52:59 AM EDT
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.25 is black out drunk territory and to still be doing that at his age, Jesus. The guy needs to get some help. Fixed it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 1:55:41 AM EDT
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How can a guy that has literally shot millions of rounds through a gun be so stupid
.25 is black out drunk territory and to still be doing that at his age, Jesus. The guy needs some jail time and to get some help. Well, 99.9% of us have not been through what he has, nor have we accomplished what he did. More than likely there is some underlying issues. I have dealt with that quite a bit with friends/coworkers that have been deployed and seen a lot. Like I have said... hopefully everyone involved gets squared away and the help that they will need. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 1:57:15 AM EDT
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Fixed it. So, you get stupid drunk and play with guns..... got it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 2:01:34 AM EDT
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So, you get stupid drunk and play with guns..... got it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fixed it. So, you get stupid drunk and play with guns..... got it. Stop being a fucking douche. What's you're resume? |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 2:07:42 AM EDT
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Well, that could make for an awkward Thanksgiving this year.
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Posted: 2/18/2017 2:07:49 AM EDT
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Stop being a fucking douche. What's you're resume? What do you plan on accomplishing by attacking me? A resume means nothing if they end in got drunk and shot someone. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 2:24:42 AM EDT
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Well, 99.9% of us have not been through what he has, nor have we accomplished what he did. More than likely there is some underlying issues. I have dealt with that quite a bit with friends/coworkers that have been deployed and seen a lot. Like I have said... hopefully everyone involved gets squared away and the help that they will need. I understand what you're saying, but all of that means exactly fuck-all when a guy who didn't need to get shot is shot by some guy voluntarily intoxicated. Don't get me wrong, I'm not being holier-than-thou: I've done some stupid shit that still makes me cringe years later. I hope he learns something about himself gets himself together. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 2:34:41 AM EDT
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One of the charges was negligent wounding. I don't think that would be one of the charges if he intentionally shot someone in self defense. Sounds like AD or ND. Guns and Alcohol do not go together will see what the story is |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 2:54:04 AM EDT
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I understand what you're saying, but all of that means exactly fuck-all when a guy who didn't need to get shot is shot by some guy voluntarily intoxicated. Don't get me wrong, I'm not being holier-than-thou: I've done some stupid shit that still makes me cringe years later. I hope he learns something about himself gets himself together. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, 99.9% of us have not been through what he has, nor have we accomplished what he did. More than likely there is some underlying issues. I have dealt with that quite a bit with friends/coworkers that have been deployed and seen a lot. Like I have said... hopefully everyone involved gets squared away and the help that they will need. I understand what you're saying, but all of that means exactly fuck-all when a guy who didn't need to get shot is shot by some guy voluntarily intoxicated. Don't get me wrong, I'm not being holier-than-thou: I've done some stupid shit that still makes me cringe years later. I hope he learns something about himself gets himself together. Exactly... most of us have done stupid shit while having drinks with friends/relatives. It happens... showing off the latest gadget or sight etc that we have. I'm not excusing the behavior but it does happen frequently among the community. Does he need to accept the responsibility of his actions? Yes he does, like a man. Do any of of know the details of the situation? No we don't. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 3:33:09 AM EDT
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Comps on red dot guns help keep the gun recoiling flatter. Go shoot a G34 with a Red Dot, and then the G19 setup that way. Which one can you get faster shots on... That is why comped pistols are making a resurgence, and why they have migrated off the race track and into duty holsters. Comped pistols are making a resurgence because it's difficult to follow the dot on a slide mounted RDS. Having one helps if you're not in the mood to play "find the dot". |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 3:40:03 AM EDT
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What do you plan on accomplishing by attacking me? A resume means nothing if they end in got drunk and shot someone. So a guy that has done more than 99% of the basement dwellers in this thread doesn't deserve another shake? We don't know the totality of the circumstances. It could have been what many of us have done and it ended up in a big tragedy. Hell, the huge hero of ARFCOM GD, Michael Murphy (of Lone survivor and MOH winner) shot one of his own men in training. The Navy covered it in ribbons and a movie. He should have been removed from NSW the second that happened. Shit happens, and the mistakes have to be learned from. Hopefully the parties involved in this heed that. |
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