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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:43:39 PM EDT
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Are you now implying you are site staff and can give members access to the military forum? I am. I can identify retreads too. See you next time. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:34:05 PM EDT
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Any indication it was on purpose? An accident can have an element of negligence, or can simply be accidental. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This was an accident? Any indication it was on purpose? An accident can have an element of negligence, or can simply be accidental. He pulled the trigger after purposely pulling the gun out and pointing it at someone. While it may be a stretch to call it an accident, you do so only by choosing to use words that minimize the event. I know, we can just call it an event. That's technically correct and minimizes what happened even more. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:34:50 PM EDT
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Yeah don't leave us hanging Not mine to repeat. Oh great. So Bigfoot is a NM reserve cop too. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:48:06 PM EDT
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Yeah don't leave us hanging I have a fairly solid theory. Pressburg was victim of a long con by a succubus posing as his wife to lull him into a drunken stupor so the vampire posing as his BIL could kill him . Fortunately Pressburg is OAF and saw through it all even shit faced drunk and was able to stop the attack |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 2:44:59 PM EDT
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He talked about wanting to volunteer with the Police/fed police to chase down people with warrants and stuff in podcasts when he talked about retiring. I enjoy those podcasts even though some of the other guests can be odd. ETA I'm referencing some of the special guest episodes that I didn't like as much as I thought I would. I appreciate all the time the normal panelists put in to the show.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 4:07:34 PM EDT
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I think that part of it may be from when a majority clicque on a certain forum lambasted DocGKR for raising the bullshit flag and waiving it high over the LeMas ammunition fiasco. Of course, they went quiet when he was proven dead right and LeMas was proven not only to be a complete and utter fraud but also have bilked the taxpayers quite a bit. The rest of it, I don't know. Some people are just fucking nasty and bereft of certain moral codes many of us assume are common. The keyboard might have a lot to do with that. http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29466 https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?13421-LeMas-USG-Report US Govt Lemas report LeMas debarment letters, read the interviews |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 5:06:03 PM EDT
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Wasn't lamas that nonsense about the ammo "that sensed flesh" or "only expanded in flesh"
i remember a bunch of high speed guys pushing that stufd |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 5:25:30 PM EDT
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Wasn't lamas that nonsense about the ammo "that sensed flesh" or "only expanded in flesh" i remember a bunch of high speed guys pushing that stufd Yup. Leozinho reminded me of that. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 5:28:18 PM EDT
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Wasn't lamas that nonsense about the ammo "that sensed flesh" or "only expanded in flesh" i remember a bunch of high speed guys pushing that stufd Regardless of how one feels attacking Doc is a douchebag move it was on M4C and it is here The man has done a ton of good work |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 5:34:31 PM EDT
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I thought that was the DRT powdered metal ammo Regardless of how one feels attacking Doc is a douchebag move it was on M4C and it is here The man has done a ton of good work I don't know about DRT powdered metal but PRL powdered metal is real stuff and still used. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 5:36:33 PM EDT
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I thought that was the DRT powdered metal ammo Regardless of how one feels attacking Doc is a douchebag move it was on M4C and it is here The man has done a ton of good work Lemas definitely claimed that their stuff sensed things and that forum blasted Doc for uncovering the truth, called him all sorts of names, and went silent when the government confirmed everything. Right, Leozhino? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 5:40:00 PM EDT
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Stan Bulmer and his kid are fun to shoot pistol matches with.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 6:07:01 PM EDT
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Stan Bulmer and his kid are fun to shoot pistol matches with. DocGKR is fun to hang out with 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 6:29:49 PM EDT
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Pretty sure it's all a front for Monster Hunters International. Pressburg was victim of a long con by a succubus posing as his wife to lull him into a drunken stupor so the vampire posing as his BIL could kill him . Fortunately Pressburg is OAF and saw through it all even shit faced drunk and was able to stop the attack Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah don't leave us hanging I have a fairly solid theory. Pressburg was victim of a long con by a succubus posing as his wife to lull him into a drunken stupor so the vampire posing as his BIL could kill him . Fortunately Pressburg is OAF and saw through it all even shit faced drunk and was able to stop the attack But now Agent Franks wants to have a chat with him... |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 6:29:49 PM EDT
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DocGKR is fun to hang out with I'd guess yes 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 6:39:31 PM EDT
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I don't know about DRT powdered metal but PRL powdered metal is real stuff and still used. Same thing. Bubba B was both. PRL went defunct and DRT started loading their own ammo. Others loss it too. Don't mistake LeMas 'Blended HorseShit' tm with real ammo. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 6:46:26 PM EDT
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Same thing. Bubba B was both. PRL went defunct and DRT started loading their own ammo. Others loss it too. Don't mistake LeMas 'Blended HorseShit' tm with real ammo. Who is making the 87gr bullets Black Hills loads for DEVGRU? I thought they were PRL bullets? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 8:58:26 PM EDT
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Those ammo threads were great.. the good Ole days....sigh,,,
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:11:38 PM EDT
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Those ammo threads were great.. the good Ole days....sigh,,, They migrated to Pistol-Forum. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:53:48 PM EDT
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I am. I can identify retreads too. See you next time. 
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:48:29 PM EDT
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I've listened to a number of podcasts with "Roland" participating at some level. I found him to be:
1. Very smart, very perceptive and insightful. His discussions on the politics involving the Big Army, Rangers and unspecified SOF were very interesting. 2. Very experienced. He has done a lot, seen a lot and lived a lot of life. Something as simple as his way of keeping his feet warm in a bivvy is great but there is much, much more. 3. Very knowledgeable. He seems very curious and does what it takes to understand and figure it out. 4. Great storyteller. 5. Profound comments about human nature and himself. And none of the above has anything to do with guns. I was so taken with his story about Lt Col Stanley McChrystal's discussion with him that "always having to be right and getting his way" was not a path to success was so good, I saved the episode to replay it with my young adult son. I don't know him or have any connection with him but truly wish him the best. Like most of us, he is flawed and is probably struggling with demons. For anyone who knows, what was his rank at retirement? Sergeant Major? |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:53:06 PM EDT
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I've listened to a number of podcasts with "Roland" participating at some level. I found him to be: 1. Very smart, very perceptive and insightful. His discussions on the politics involving the Big Army, Rangers and unspecified SOF were very interesting. 2. Very experienced. He has done a lot, seen a lot and lived a lot of life. Something as simple as his way of keeping his feet warm in a bivvy is great but there is much, much more. 3. Very knowledgeable. He seems very curious and does what it takes to understand and figure it out. 4. Great storyteller. 5. Profound comments about human nature and himself. And none of the above has anything to do with guns. I was so taken with his story about Lt Col Stanley McChrystal's discussion with him that "always having to be right and getting his way" was not a path to success was so good, I saved the episode to replay it with my young adult son. I don't know him or have any connection with him but truly wish him the best. Like most of us, he is flawed and is probably struggling with demons. For anyone who knows, what was his rank at retirement? Sergeant Major? Great post, post whore 
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:57:16 PM EDT
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I've listened to a number of podcasts with "Roland" participating at some level. I found him to be: 1. Very smart, very perceptive and insightful. His discussions on the politics involving the Big Army, Rangers and unspecified SOF were very interesting. 2. Very experienced. He has done a lot, seen a lot and lived a lot of life. Something as simple as his way of keeping his feet warm in a bivvy is great but there is much, much more. 3. Very knowledgeable. He seems very curious and does what it takes to understand and figure it out. 4. Great storyteller. 5. Profound comments about human nature and himself. And none of the above has anything to do with guns. I was so taken with his story about Lt Col Stanley McChrystal's discussion with him that "always having to be right and getting his way" was not a path to success was so good, I saved the episode to replay it with my young adult son. I don't know him or have any connection with him but truly wish him the best. Like most of us, he is flawed and is probably struggling with demons. For anyone who knows, what was his rank at retirement? Sergeant Major? I must have missed a lot of that. The P&S Podcasts on stitcher only go back so far. I'd love to start listening at the beginning. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:57:22 PM EDT
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I've listened to a number of podcasts with "Roland" participating at some level. I found him to be: 1. Very smart, very perceptive and insightful. His discussions on the politics involving the Big Army, Rangers and unspecified SOF were very interesting. 2. Very experienced. He has done a lot, seen a lot and lived a lot of life. Something as simple as his way of keeping his feet warm in a bivvy is great but there is much, much more. 3. Very knowledgeable. He seems very curious and does what it takes to understand and figure it out. 4. Great storyteller. 5. Profound comments about human nature and himself. And none of the above has anything to do with guns. I was so taken with his story about Lt Col Stanley McChrystal's discussion with him that "always having to be right and getting his way" was not a path to success was so good, I saved the episode to replay it with my young adult son. I don't know him or have any connection with him but truly wish him the best. Like most of us, he is flawed and is probably struggling with demons. For anyone who knows, what was his rank at retirement? Sergeant Major? Any good podcast names. Sounds interesting |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:58:12 PM EDT
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Any good podcast names. Sounds interesting Its the Primary and Secondary Modcast. They're on youtube and stitcher |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:01:55 PM EDT
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Its the Primary and Secondary Modcast. They're on youtube and stitcher Thank ya |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 3:19:37 PM EDT
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One question that hasn't been answered yet.
What round for brother in law? |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 3:32:27 PM EDT
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I am. I can identify retreads too. See you next time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you now implying you are site staff and can give members access to the military forum? I am. I can identify retreads too. See you next time. 
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Posted: 2/25/2017 3:37:15 PM EDT
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Thank ya The P&S modcasts are great, the amount of knowledge they put out for free is stunning. I (selfishly) hope nothing happens to Roland because I've always wanted to train with him. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 5:35:35 PM EDT
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One question that hasn't been answered yet. What round for brother in law? Well, obviously it's not what Chuck was carrying, as it seems to have had little effect. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 8:00:39 PM EDT
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I am. I can identify retreads too. See you next time. 
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Posted: 2/25/2017 8:21:26 PM EDT
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The P&S modcasts are great, the amount of knowledge they put out for free is stunning. I (selfishly) hope nothing happens to Roland because I've always wanted to train with him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank ya The P&S modcasts are great, the amount of knowledge they put out for free is stunning. I (selfishly) hope nothing happens to Roland because I've always wanted to train with him. What is P&S?? |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 8:28:46 PM EDT
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Thank ya The P&S modcasts are great, the amount of knowledge they put out for free is stunning. I (selfishly) hope nothing happens to Roland because I've always wanted to train with him. What is P&S?? Primary & Secondary |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 12:14:12 AM EDT
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Other trainers manage to get around without reserve status (unless all these others got hooked up and are keeping it on the DL like Pressburg). I know Ernest Langdon is/was a reserve officer, but he strikes me as very earnest and didn't keep it a secret, so I have no reason to think he wasn't serious about it. Either way, that's not a "special mission" by any definition and not something that should concern the Lake Arthur Police Department. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Special missions" probably meaning teaching classes for ban state cops, you'd need a badge hook up if you were never a real cop to travel around with a pistol. Interesting that it sounds like he wasn't the only one who found a badge hook up in this small town. Wonder if the town was known on the training circuit. Other trainers manage to get around without reserve status (unless all these others got hooked up and are keeping it on the DL like Pressburg). I know Ernest Langdon is/was a reserve officer, but he strikes me as very earnest and didn't keep it a secret, so I have no reason to think he wasn't serious about it. Either way, that's not a "special mission" by any definition and not something that should concern the Lake Arthur Police Department. Langdon asked me to tell folks here that he has not been a part of the Lake Arthur reserve program for years. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 1:36:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/26/2017 4:59:52 AM EDT
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Again, I ask, why so personal? What did he do to you? 2 answers 1. From the facts as they are reported, accidentally shooting someone while having a BAC of .25 is especially bad--especially for the former member of an elite unit. 2. A lot of guys would give their right nut to be a true Spec Ops soldier like Roland/Chuck and to have led the heroic life he has and survived. But 99,999 percent of the people who aspire to it could never come close to making it into the units, developing his level of skill, fighting the fight that he fought. Soooo, when someone of his stature has a fuckup that they never had, it makes some people feel better about themselves and self righteous. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 9:23:55 AM EDT
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2 answers 1. From the facts as they are reported, accidentally shooting someone while having a BAC of .25 is especially bad--especially for the former member of an elite unit. 2. A lot of guys would give their right nut to be a true Spec Ops soldier like Roland/Chuck and to have led the heroic life he has and survived. But 99,999 percent of the people who aspire to it could never come close to making it into the units, developing his level of skill, fighting the fight that he fought. Soooo, when someone of his stature has a fuckup that they never had, it makes some people feel better about themselves and self righteous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Again, I ask, why so personal? What did he do to you? 2 answers 1. From the facts as they are reported, accidentally shooting someone while having a BAC of .25 is especially bad--especially for the former member of an elite unit. 2. A lot of guys would give their right nut to be a true Spec Ops soldier like Roland/Chuck and to have led the heroic life he has and survived. But 99,999 percent of the people who aspire to it could never come close to making it into the units, developing his level of skill, fighting the fight that he fought. Soooo, when someone of his stature has a fuckup that they never had, it makes some people feel better about themselves and self righteous. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 2:38:08 PM EDT
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2 answers 1. From the facts as they are reported, accidentally shooting someone while having a BAC of .25 is especially bad--especially for the former member of an elite unit. 2. A lot of guys would give their right nut to be a true Spec Ops soldier like Roland/Chuck and to have led the heroic life he has and survived. But 99,999 percent of the people who aspire to it could never come close to making it into the units, developing his level of skill, fighting the fight that he fought. Soooo, when someone of his stature has a fuckup that they never had, it makes some people feel better about themselves and self righteous. Spot on. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 3:46:24 PM EDT
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I've listened to a number of podcasts with "Roland" participating at some level. I found him to be: 1. Very smart, very perceptive and insightful. His discussions on the politics involving the Big Army, Rangers and unspecified SOF were very interesting. 2. Very experienced. He has done a lot, seen a lot and lived a lot of life. Something as simple as his way of keeping his feet warm in a bivvy is great but there is much, much more. 3. Very knowledgeable. He seems very curious and does what it takes to understand and figure it out. 4. Great storyteller. 5. Profound comments about human nature and himself. And none of the above has anything to do with guns. I was so taken with his story about Lt Col Stanley McChrystal's discussion with him that "always having to be right and getting his way" was not a path to success was so good, I saved the episode to replay it with my young adult son. I don't know him or have any connection with him but truly wish him the best. Like most of us, he is flawed and is probably struggling with demons. For anyone who knows, what was his rank at retirement? Sergeant Major? Totally agree. I've listened to a majority of those and the one you referenced as well. I also agree that he is having a rough time right now based on the more recent episodes and transitioning in general. I pray he makes it through. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 6:19:16 PM EDT
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2 answers 1. From the facts as they are reported, accidentally shooting someone while having a BAC of .25 is especially bad--especially for the former member of an elite unit. 2. A lot of guys would give their right nut to be a true Spec Ops soldier like Roland/Chuck and to have led the heroic life he has and survived. But 99,999 percent of the people who aspire to it could never come close to making it into the units, developing his level of skill, fighting the fight that he fought. Soooo, when someone of his stature has a fuckup that they never had, it makes some people feel better about themselves and self righteous. 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 8:00:49 PM EDT
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I have defended Arfcom on other boards, sometimes to my own detriment, because in general I think it's a good place to be a member, to learn, to laugh, to buy and sell, to meet interesting people.
And then there are times in which I am embarrassed by, and ashamed of, it. This thread is one of those times. I dont know this Chuck fella. I have had private conversations with him via PMs. That is the extent to my "knowing" him. I dont call him friend, I dont call him acquaintance. I dont call him anything really. My thoughts on this matter are simple; whatever the consequences of his actions, he should accept them. I havent read the entirety of this thread, but agree/disagree with Dr Roberts, minimizing him in anyway is a slap in the face and insult. Hopefully our Mods and Staff have the sense enough to handle that. Doc, on behalf of those of us that know, understand, and appreciate your contributions, I apologize. This board sometimes... |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:05:34 PM EDT
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I have defended Arfcom on other boards, sometimes to my own detriment, because in general I think it's a good place to be a member, to learn, to laugh, to buy and sell, to meet interesting people. And then there are times in which I am embarrassed by, and ashamed of, it. This thread is one of those times. I dont know this Chuck fella. I have had private conversations with him via PMs. That is the extent to my "knowing" him. I dont call him friend, I dont call him acquaintance. I dont call him anything really. My thoughts on this matter are simple; whatever the consequences of his actions, he should accept them. I havent read the entirety of this thread, but agree/disagree with Dr Roberts, minimizing him in anyway is a slap in the face and insult. Hopefully our Mods and Staff have the sense enough to handle that. Doc, on behalf of those of us that know, understand, and appreciate your contributions, I apologize. This board sometimes... I agree for the most part. I've watched so many knowledgeable people flee from here it's not even funny. I have no idea how to run a successful forum but I know that trying to make everyone happy. There are definitely times when members need to be trashed rather than protected in the name of freeish speech. I will most likely always be a member here. I try not to start shit and love the depth of knowledge here. I just wish we didn't have so many bouts of high school bullshit. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:17:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:47:16 PM EDT
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I have defended Arfcom on other boards, sometimes to my own detriment, because in general I think it's a good place to be a member, to learn, to laugh, to buy and sell, to meet interesting people. And then there are times in which I am embarrassed by, and ashamed of, it. This thread is one of those times. I dont know this Chuck fella. I have had private conversations with him via PMs. That is the extent to my "knowing" him. I dont call him friend, I dont call him acquaintance. I dont call him anything really. My thoughts on this matter are simple; whatever the consequences of his actions, he should accept them. I havent read the entirety of this thread, but agree/disagree with Dr Roberts, minimizing him in anyway is a slap in the face and insult. Hopefully our Mods and Staff have the sense enough to handle that. Doc, on behalf of those of us that know, understand, and appreciate your contributions, I apologize. This board sometimes... Well said. I had the privilege of hanging out w/ Dr Roberts in person a few months ago. A more passionate 2nd Amendment and Constitutional advocate, we do not have, not to mention that he can probably outshoot most of his detractors. I know folks will raise the bullshit flag on me saying this but oh well...he's doing more for our cause than most will ever know. This thread is an embarrassment to the community, to a few involved, and to this site. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:34:11 PM EDT
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Well said. I had the privilege of hanging out w/ Dr Roberts in person a few months ago. A more passionate 2nd Amendment and Constitutional advocate, we do not have, not to mention that he can probably outshoot most of his detractors. I know folks will raise the bullshit flag on me saying this but oh well...he's doing more for our cause than most will ever know. This thread is an embarrassment to the community, to a few involved, and to this site. Got a call from "someone in the training community" asking me to deep six the threads here exposing that, " for the good of the community". You can fill in the blanks about what was said about some people you know and knew, present and past tense; and I suspect probably respect and respected. So I don't know the doctor, I couldn't have picked your buddies I got an ear full about out of a line up, but none of those people caused a problem here so I said "sorry not my problem, don't have a problem with him, him or him" and went back to making dinner. So, sure it's douchey to call an oral surgeon "dentist" to be insulting, but you know plenty of similar insults here worse than that fly by, like cops who have called lawyers ( not me) ambulance chasers and incompetent. And some day if someone who can get my number calls and says what a terrible feeling hurter you have been to some big shot I'll go "mmmhmmm, well not much I can do about that" and go back to stirring my spaghetti sauce. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:02:09 AM EDT
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So the PD is some elaborate front which the Fed Gov uses to certify former secret squirrel types so that they can once again perform secret squirrel type things on behalf of the fed gov? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/19/d7/03/19d703df446b37acc5825a54f6c5615f.jpg It's like an episode of The Unit. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:03:47 AM EDT
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He talked about wanting to volunteer with the Police/fed police to chase down people with warrants and stuff in podcasts when he talked about retiring. I enjoy those podcasts even though some of the other guests can be odd. ETA I'm referencing some of the special guest episodes that I didn't like as much as I thought I would. I appreciate all the time the normal panelists put in to the show. They are long listens but Roland is always dropping some knowledge bombs in there. I agree. I love listening to Roland or Steve Fisher. I could pass on most others. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:06:14 AM EDT
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Right, so who was it who changed his board name to "dentist" and chased him off a "site where professionals are valued and happy to participate"? Stop right there. You mean TOS, the one where I very publicly ragequit over the exact incident you described? I'm pretty sure you meant that one, I'm pretty sure you didn't know that I cussed them up and down publicly over what they did to DocGKR. I'll dig up the actual post since they disappeared it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 11:33:40 AM EDT
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Stop right there. You mean TOS, the one where I very publicly ragequit over the exact incident you described? I'm pretty sure you meant that one, I'm pretty sure you didn't know that I cussed them up and down publicly over what they did to DocGKR. I'll dig up the actual post since they disappeared it. It kinda sounds like you want this site to be more like the "professional" site you "rage quit." I like it the way it is. You gotta have a thick skin to hang out here. Expect to be challenged even if you are a "SME", especially when you stray out of "your lane" to borrow terms from TOS. That's what makes this site great. if you want a site that is an echo chamber full of SME and nut huggers, Im sure you can find one. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 11:54:36 AM EDT
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How is the brother in law doing? News says the bullet broke bone. Does that always require surgery to correct? If the BIL is hostile to pressing charges this deal will be done. |
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