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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:42:46 AM EDT
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If you got everyone in California who is on welfare or social security disability to show up and drink a glass of water from the lake, I bet it would dry up.
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:42:50 AM EDT
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Good video where you can see the scale of the hole. It's enormous. To be clear, the erosion is going UP the spillway. http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article131579999.html wow that is crazy |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:43:28 AM EDT
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Hopefully they aren't just sitting on their thumbs watching this happen.
They need to call up a local quarry and have them deliver a few hundred tons of coarse rock and dump it in that hole and down the emergency spillway to reduce erosion. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:43:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:45:22 AM EDT
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They might as well have CNN tell everyone it's all going to be fine. Everything will be fine. The erosion is on the lower end of the spillway. Yes it will erode more but it won't put the dam at risk. I agree with the engineer open it up now, let it flow and get the lake down, then later rebuild the spillway and clean out the river. The only reason people are freaking out is because of the environmentalist claiming it is pollution and erosion making it sound as bad a global warming. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:45:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:46:04 AM EDT
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And we're supposed to know where the "biggest dam in the country" is located? I thought the OP meant maybe Grand Coulee or Hoover. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:47:06 AM EDT
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Hopefully it doesn't take out RCBS
Mailing Address RCBS 605 Oro Dam Boulevard East Oroville, CA 95965  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:48:18 AM EDT
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Glad to see California was busy repairing and expanding water storage infrastructure during the drought when water levels were low. 
Didn't have time/money for that. Too busy expending effort on "sky is falling" drought education and enforcement (with a healthy dose of global warming and probably some LGBT outreach). Yeah, but just think of the rainbow it's going to make!!! |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:48:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:49:53 AM EDT
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Hopefully they aren't just sitting on their thumbs watching this happen. They need to call up a local quarry and have them deliver a few hundred tons of coarse rock and dump it in that hole and down the emergency spillway to reduce erosion. I talked to my good friend yesterday about an unrelated issue and I asked how work was. He said the initial order was 60 trucks delivering 24 hours a day from their hard rock quarry. 2 hours later it was upped to 80 trucks. I have no idea were the rock is going and that was before the whole grew 500% in size. He said something about 7 ton rock hardface. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:50:55 AM EDT
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We have this happening but the State has not declared the drought over. At the state level there is still a drought and a surcharge on all water bills.
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:51:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:52:26 AM EDT
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They're going to open up the spillway again.
 Despite Hole In Spillway, Officials Will Release More Water From Oroville Dam If Necessary |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:53:28 AM EDT
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Everything will be fine. The erosion is on the lower end of the spillway. Yes it will erode more but it won't put the dam at risk. I agree with the engineer open it up now, let it flow and get the lake down, then later rebuild the spillway and clean out the river. The only reason people are freaking out is because of the environmentalist claiming it is pollution and erosion making it sound as bad a global warming. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They might as well have CNN tell everyone it's all going to be fine. Everything will be fine. The erosion is on the lower end of the spillway. Yes it will erode more but it won't put the dam at risk. I agree with the engineer open it up now, let it flow and get the lake down, then later rebuild the spillway and clean out the river. The only reason people are freaking out is because of the environmentalist claiming it is pollution and erosion making it sound as bad a global warming. Yep. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:53:39 AM EDT
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They just need to put a ramp above the crater, shouldn't take much to clear the hole.
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:54:39 AM EDT
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Good video where you can see the scale of the hole. It's enormous. To be clear, the erosion is going UP the spillway. http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article131579999.html Wow! At 19 seconds into the second video you can see rocks flying through the air.  Time to gtfo.
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:55:03 AM EDT
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And that was with the about an inch of rain we got yesterday, maybe less. It is just starting here again and I'm about 75 miles west and slightly south of the dam as the crow flies. We are forecasted to get about 4-5 inches here so that means about 6-8 there. LOL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When I went to sleep last night around midnight, lake was at 862 feet. right now 8 hours later it's at 875 feet. "emergency spillway" is at 901 feet. Shit's goin down for real. They might as well have CNN tell everyone it's all going to be fine. And that was with the about an inch of rain we got yesterday, maybe less. It is just starting here again and I'm about 75 miles west and slightly south of the dam as the crow flies. We are forecasted to get about 4-5 inches here so that means about 6-8 there. LOL |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:55:24 AM EDT
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The answer is treadmill.
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:56:49 AM EDT
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1 year ago, the reservoir had half the water in it than it currently has. Should would have been a good time to do some of that deferred maintenance
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:57:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat's the worst that could happen?
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:57:51 AM EDT
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1 year ago, the reservoir had half the water in it than it currently has. Should would have been a good time to do some of that deferred maintenance |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:58:38 AM EDT
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So it's been a while since I had to do flow calcs for a living but....isn't 150k CFS like....an entire fucking ass load of water? 8.4 x10^10 GPD kind of ass load? If that damn hits 100% and goes into uncontrolled discharge....well fuck your spillway...fuck your emergency spillway too...fuck that hillside and pray that the damn it set deep on good bedrock. Even pretty far away you could have toe erosion issues...no ski jump on the emergency spill way. The concern I would have about letting the main spillway erode is that it's closer to the dam, that hill side is going to be gone from the hole down to the river bed at least. To be clear, Once the emergency spillway is flowing, the water will be ABOVE the gates of the real spillway. So the real spillway is going to erode no matter what. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:59:22 AM EDT
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Surf's up dude's!
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:59:51 AM EDT
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Dam, dam it all to hell
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:59:54 AM EDT
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We have this happening but the State has not declared the drought over. At the state level there is still a drought and a surcharge on all water bills. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:00:22 PM EDT
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Just watched this on YouTube last night. Wonder if this is in its future.
 Auburn Upstream Cofferdam Failure, 02/18/1986 |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:01:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:03:32 PM EDT
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Sooner or later deferred maintenance bites you in the ass. Easily preventable problem that has long been ignored has know reared its ugly head. The university I work for has a deferred maintenance backlog in the tens of millions of dollars. Since we got a mid year hair cut from the legislature, guess what the first thing cut was? The same where I worked. 1. Defer maintenance. 2. Steal from the pension fund. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:03:55 PM EDT
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That entire state needs to get it's shit together.
They keep ignoring the signs. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:04:00 PM EDT
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What concerns me is the possible backlash against innocent Muslims this could create. Don't forget the gays as well 
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:04:16 PM EDT
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The old engineer had the correct answer. This should be interesting to watch. Why? because that is how California operates. How do I know? I was born and raised and lived there for 32 years and have seen the droughts, wild land fires, rains, floods, canyon homes sliding off their foundations, lake levels rise and fall, droughts, wild land fires, rains, floods, canyon homes sliding off their foundations, lake levels rise and fall, cycle so many times it's almost predictable. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:09:40 PM EDT
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To be clear, Once the emergency spillway is flowing, the water will be ABOVE the gates of the real spillway. So the real spillway is going to erode no matter what. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:11:50 PM EDT
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What's more is while they perform "inspections" and play at bureaucrat the water level is rising. It's inevitable that they'll have to open the spillway back up, but by waiting they're going to end up with a larger Q running, causing more problems than if they just opened the fucking thing now.
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:14:16 PM EDT
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So the top of the gates of the main spillway way aren't the same height as the dam itself...ok. I guess there is a logic to that. So yeah, that concrete spill way is toast. The question just becomes what is the safest way for it to fail. I'd clear the hillside of major debris and then wait for it to hit the emergency spill way...spread the flow out as much as possible to lessen the damage to the main spillway. They're kinda fucked either way Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be clear, Once the emergency spillway is flowing, the water will be ABOVE the gates of the real spillway. So the real spillway is going to erode no matter what. The main spillway will already be running by the time the Emergency spillway runs the first drop, no matter if it's closed. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:17:00 PM EDT
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Tomorrow's video from the Oroville Dam.
 Force 10 from Navarone On a positive note, apparently a lot of Nazis will be killed. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:19:26 PM EDT
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Just watched this on YouTube last night. Wonder if this is in its future.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDmwo5nsWfQThat's pretty cool. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:19:30 PM EDT
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Hopefully it doesn't take out RCBS
Mailing Address RCBS 605 Oro Dam Boulevard East Oroville, CA 95965 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/18550/image-143387.JPG 
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:20:34 PM EDT
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1 year ago, the reservoir had half the water in it than it currently has. Should would have been a good time to do some of that deferred maintenance Providing sanctuary social services for illegal aliens costs money YO. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:20:55 PM EDT
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The main spillway will already be running by the time the Emergency spillway runs the first drop, no matter if it's closed. Exactly. 
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:21:12 PM EDT
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Tomorrow's video from the Oroville Dam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJCghhCwmI
On a positive note, apparently a lot of Nazis will be killed. 
I hate Californian Nazis. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:23:14 PM EDT
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The main spillway will already be running by the time the Emergency spillway runs the first drop, no matter if it's closed. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:25:40 PM EDT
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Good video where you can see the scale of the hole. It's enormous. To be clear, the erosion is going UP the spillway. http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article131579999.html Now that's a fucking hole
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:26:07 PM EDT
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If that were true why is there a secondary spillway? Once your over the top of the gates doesn't outflow kinda equal inflow? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The main spillway will already be running by the time the Emergency spillway runs the first drop, no matter if it's closed. Not if your outflow is constricted only so much volume can get through x sized space. if the space only allows 100k cfs out due to constrictions a back up would be a good idea to ease some of that pressure off the main dam. Not a water engineer so thats my guess |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:26:23 PM EDT
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Exactly. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:30:33 PM EDT
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Not if your outflow is constricted only so much volume can get through x sized space. if the space only allows 100k cfs out due to constrictions a back up would be a good idea to ease some of that pressure off the main dam. Not a water engineer so thats my guess So it's either match inflow out the spillway and let it erode or wait for it to over top the spillway and then the excess can use the emergency spillway....yeah..big hole is going to get much bigger |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:30:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:33:45 PM EDT
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Surf's up.
Hope it holds though. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:34:46 PM EDT
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Then why the debate? If there is no real choice....let'r rip The fun part is a glance at a map shows three smaller dams downstream that could get washed out... |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:35:24 PM EDT
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It's like nature is trying to flush LOL |
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