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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:13:17 PM EDT
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This is the Sacramento river taken from an Amtrak yesterday. The river runs about 30 miles or so west of the dam. I'm not sure what part of the track/river area this was taken though. Just kind of showing how much rain that whole area has been getting through is if this dam gets fucked it could really start dicking up all sorts of other areas. http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173545/16586941-883954421746778-5252959300090985997-o-144735.jpg Wow. That would have been an interesting ride. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:13:45 PM EDT
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Kick ass video op !! #16erOftheyear I second this motion. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:14:10 PM EDT
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I don't think the emergency spillway is functioning like they thought it would. The washed out section of the primary spillway has created an alternate path for the emergency spillway outflow. Since the emergency spillway appears to be soil covered bedrock that slopes towards the primary spillway, the outflow will wash away the soil and follow the path of least resistance. I'm just spit balling here. Sounds logical to me. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:14:13 PM EDT
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OP needs a Honda EU1000 genny to keep his phone charged. You did bring a genny, sammiches and sunscreen yes?
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:14:24 PM EDT
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Has OP realized he is sitting right under the power lines that could potentially fall?
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:16:07 PM EDT
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Has OP realized he is sitting right under the power lines that could potentially fall? He said that the power is off the Generators are possibly under water. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:16:10 PM EDT
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Has OP realized he is sitting right under the power lines that could potentially fall? Just makes the stream that much more interesting. 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:17:28 PM EDT
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Did OP put in that live PIP news conference?
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:17:29 PM EDT
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Wow. That would have been an interesting ride. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is the Sacramento river taken from an Amtrak yesterday. The river runs about 30 miles or so west of the dam. I'm not sure what part of the track/river area this was taken though. Just kind of showing how much rain that whole area has been getting through is if this dam gets fucked it could really start dicking up all sorts of other areas. http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173545/16586941-883954421746778-5252959300090985997-o-144735.jpg Wow. That would have been an interesting ride. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:17:39 PM EDT
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ProFryan Live Feed
Periscope - https://www.periscope.tv/w/1gqxvqLdgbQJB YouTube - https://youtu.be/rdnip7onbtg Media Player - https://periscope-prod-us-west-1.global.ssl.fastly.net/vidmanlive/x0oxKTRFvPdjBV8TeAGGRK5ys3WqlIDsAJz6TR5W3oy5gThNGbvHN7CB3HimVeptlOHyHqBe89YUlYY-UjcbIw/playlist.m3u8 |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:17:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:17:50 PM EDT
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lake side view web cam of Emergency Spillway
http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=29411 |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:18:08 PM EDT
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I'll give the first power pole until 1:38 pm local.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:18:38 PM EDT
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Has OP realized he is sitting right under the power lines that could potentially fall? He said the lines have been cut in preparation. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:20:04 PM EDT
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Why have none of you acquired satellite assets in place to live aerial stream? Should be easy-peasy.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:20:19 PM EDT
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Periscope says bad connection.. will keep trying
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:20:42 PM EDT
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Anyone have a gold pan I can borrow?
Might be worth some prospecting. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:21:36 PM EDT
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he's dead, Jim
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:21:48 PM EDT
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Good luck OP
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:22:00 PM EDT
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And I haven't seen even one silt fence, no haybales, nada. EPA is gonna have a field day with these guys, if an inspector ever shows up. They will shut the whole site down. Uncontrolled water runoff - not on MY watch. Shut that water off, NOW. EPA are probably afraid to turn up in case they get blamed... The SWPPP comment was kind of funny though... |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:22:10 PM EDT
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Periscope says bad connection.. will keep trying Thanks for the feed man. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:22:20 PM EDT
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Ridge between e spillway and flume.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:23:14 PM EDT
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He said that the power is off the Generators are possibly under water. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has OP realized he is sitting right under the power lines that could potentially fall? He said that the power is off the Generators are possibly under water. If the turbines and generators are underwater, that place is going to have some UUUUGE expenses coming up and be offline for months and months. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:23:59 PM EDT
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Its just trickling over really still. Look at a topo map. There is a ridge between the e spillway and flume. For some reason, I don't think that topo is accurate anymore.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:23:59 PM EDT
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Periscope says bad connection.. will keep trying Bull. The power lines fell on you, you're dead, and you're too embarrassed to admit it. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:24:25 PM EDT
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OP's battery must have died
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:24:27 PM EDT
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Think of some image you'd like to have as an avatar and I'll whip it up over the weekend for you. So long as I can find an appropriate base image anyhow.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you! Think of some image you'd like to have as an avatar and I'll whip it up over the weekend for you. So long as I can find an appropriate base image anyhow. 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:24:54 PM EDT
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Periscope says bad connection.. will keep trying Cool thanks! Sounded like voices in the back ground then you dropped off, thought maybe you were getting kicked out of the area. Shit if my wasn't working this weekend I would brig you a pizza and beer. I'm only a couple hrs away. 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:25:54 PM EDT
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If the turbines and generators are underwater, that place is going to have some UUUUGE expenses coming up and be offline for months and months. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:26:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:26:19 PM EDT
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Might I suggest... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/78310/KG-oro-spillway-damage-10703-02-09-2017-1920x1282-144421.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Think of some image you'd like to have as an avatar and I'll whip it up over the weekend for you. So long as I can find an appropriate base image anyhow. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/78310/KG-oro-spillway-damage-10703-02-09-2017-1920x1282-144421.JPG
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:26:30 PM EDT
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Why is this so interesting and why have I read almost every page? Because it's fascinating. Nature vs man made structures, a potential disaster, and the potential for Governor Moonbeam to grovel at the feet of President Trump for emergency funding. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:26:47 PM EDT
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Did that guy just say they are going to blast the area below the main and emergency spillways to keep the channel clear?
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:27:10 PM EDT
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Lost the feed
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:27:22 PM EDT
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Requesting a jaunt down the right of way to get a better shot of the ES runoff in and around the power line.
Watch your cornhole! |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:28:03 PM EDT
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Updated Links
ProFryan Live Feed Periscope - https://www.periscope.tv/pseudojd/1OyKAomOpZDJb# YouTube - https://youtu.be/rdnip7onbtg Media Player - https://periscope-prod-us-west-1.global.ssl.fastly.net/vidmanlive/0fY10kmuocWHcR_xy5kofV9yhpy0V2e7pM4JWXMoGiijW3i9WBCgVARQRS4ZBJHZKdHpq8Tu42ESOGBSSUkVLw/playlist.m3u8 |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:28:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:28:50 PM EDT
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Ain't that the truth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the turbines and generators are underwater, that place is going to have some UUUUGE expenses coming up and be offline for months and months. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:28:57 PM EDT
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scroll up a few and see how the water is blowing out below the service road, it's the red muddy spot on the far right side..... not good That road is sacrificial. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:29:38 PM EDT
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Looks like the input is trending down.
But there's still one hell of a disparity between input and output. Link |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:30:33 PM EDT
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Useless information for geeks...
Potential Energy is a Bitch with this dam in particular. Potential energy = weight * height. 1 ft³ water ˜ 63.3 pounds With 900-230 = 670 ft, the potential energy is 63.3 • 670 = 42,411 foot pounds for each cubic foot of water. There are roughly 50,000 extra cubic feet of water per second at 900 ft, or 2.1 Giga Foot Pounds of potential energy turning into dynamic energy every second. For the water itself, There area roughly 3 million (3,165,000) pounds of it per second, at the top or bottom, that WILL move. The height only adds a shitload of velocity to that weight, and as we are shooters, we know that E=mv², so for every doubling of velocity, the energy that needs to be dissipated goes up by a factor of 4. This is why "This One" is so much more risky than something like a 200 ft dam flowing over. One extra butterfly flap and it's Catastrophe Weekend. Will be catastrophe spring for sure, due to their mis-management, there'll be a few documentaries due to downstream dam failures and damage. Since they can't shut off the flow now, all everybody can do is watch, and hope there's a lot of bedrock and a little dirt, instead of the other way around. Which I think there is, otherwise a different location to create a dam would have been chosen. If you've never been next to flow like this, the ground shakes, like a rocket launch. It's awe inspiring. That vibration can also cause unpredictable things (little butterflies). Let's all hope it just remains a pretty cool shit show to watch. They've chosen to damage the dam face, it'll need to be drawn down for a year or three and a ton of rebuilding done after this, not just the former ramp. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:30:42 PM EDT
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Has it been confirmed that the generators and/or the control rooms are under water? DWR live stream guy says no, the plant is just shut down. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:30:49 PM EDT
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Some of that water is a touch brown... Hrm... 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:30:56 PM EDT
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Not to doom and gloom this, but the last thing California needs right now is an earthquake to cause a liquefaction event with all that saturated land.
It will make the 1989 disaster look like child's play. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:31:51 PM EDT
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holy shit, I see OP  Quote History
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:32:06 PM EDT
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How high above the river is the city of Oroville? It does not look like too much buffer!
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:32:23 PM EDT
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Updated Links ProFryan Live Feed Periscope - https://www.periscope.tv/pseudojd/1OyKAomOpZDJb# YouTube - https://youtu.be/rdnip7onbtg Media Player - https://periscope-prod-us-west-1.global.ssl.fastly.net/vidmanlive/0fY10kmuocWHcR_xy5kofV9yhpy0V2e7pM4JWXMoGiijW3i9WBCgVARQRS4ZBJHZKdHpq8Tu42ESOGBSSUkVLw/playlist.m3u8 That's awesome you have OP's feed and the conference. That's some fine teamwork. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:33:14 PM EDT
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Not to doom and gloom this, but the last thing California needs right now is an earthquake to cause a liquefaction event with all that saturated land. It will make the 1989 disaster look like child's play. Maybe they'll finally be able to succeed, or whatever..... |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:33:57 PM EDT
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Useless information for geeks... Potential Energy is a Bitch with this dam in particular. Potential energy = weight * height. 1 ft³ water ˜ 63.3 pounds With 900-230 = 670 ft, the potential energy is 63.3 • 670 = 42,411 foot pounds for each cubic foot of water. There are roughly 50,000 extra cubic feet of water per second at 900 ft, or 2.1 Giga Foot Pounds of potential energy turning into dynamic energy every second. For the water itself, There area roughly 3 million (3,165,000) pounds of it per second, at the top or bottom, that WILL move. The height only adds a shitload of velocity to that weight, and as we are shooters, we know that E=mv², so for every doubling of velocity, the energy that needs to be dissipated goes up by a factor of 4. This is why "This One" is so much more risky than something like a 200 ft dam flowing over. One extra butterfly flap and it's Catastrophe Weekend. Will be catastrophe spring for sure, due to their mis-management, there'll be a few documentaries due to downstream dam failures and damage. Since they can't shut off the flow now, all everybody can do is watch, and hope there's a lot of bedrock and a little dirt, instead of the other way around. Which I think there is, otherwise a different location to create a dam would have been chosen. If you've never been next to flow like this, the ground shakes, like a rocket launch. It's awe inspiring. That vibration can also cause unpredictable things (little butterflies). Let's all hope it just remains a pretty cool shit show to watch. They've chosen to damage the dam face, it'll need to be drawn down for a year or three and a ton of rebuilding done after this, not just the former ramp. Isn't part of the reason that the emergen..excuse me, auxiliary spillway is so wide? To spread that force out and lower the velocity of the water going over the top? |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 4:34:11 PM EDT
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Did Old Dude just say the E-Spillway hasn't been used yet?
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