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Not only that.....he "renegotiated" international agreements (Versailles, etc) and invested heavily in infrastructure. hmmm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hitler deregulated the government? What in the hell are you smoking? You're an awful troll. Not only that.....he "renegotiated" international agreements (Versailles, etc) and invested heavily in infrastructure. hmmm Are you suggesting the federal government should not be involved in funding infrastructure? |
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Not only that.....he "renegotiated" international agreements (Versailles, etc) and invested heavily in infrastructure. hmmm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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You may be on to something..... https://pics.onsizzle.com/adolf-hitler-donald-trump-drank-water-drinks-water-1489634.png hmmm View Quote |
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Nationalism has nothing to do with fascism. Fascism is government forcing private business to do business with another business or consumer. Bake that cake. Communism is government owned business. Socialism is taxpayer funded programs, ie. medicare. Obamacare is a blend. View Quote you can make up definitions if you like, but you can't make them correct. |
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Sure,when it doesn't involve borrow and spend from China.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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At this point in time, I'll welcome a little bit more nationalism within the US, and likewise welcome a lot less socialism. Less racism would be great, but I figure without Obama (and his minions) promoting such, then most people will come to there senses.
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Not only that.....he "renegotiated" international agreements (Versailles, etc) and invested heavily in infrastructure. hmmm View Quote "Not only that" what? Please, prove at least one thing you say before moving on to the next. And renegotiating NAFTA = invading Poland? 0/10 Troll |
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This all stems back to the communists infiltrating the Democratic Party. Read rules for radicals, this is straight out of the playbook.
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Leibstande SS Adolf Hitler was created to protect Hitler from the Wehrmacht. View Quote And the SA was crippled to get the Wehrmact's allegiance in the night of the long knives. The Army was afraid of the SA becoming less of a paramilitary force and taking over national defense because they were almost as large as the Wehrmact and Rohm was ambitious towards that end. The SA was largely filled with former communists at that point. |
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If the left doesn't like someone, they are Fascist. If the right doesn't like someone, they are Communist. Where does Socialist fit in? Socialists are just Communist precursors, and Socialists and Fascists are only nominally different. Socialism and Fascism are essentially the same. |
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Take many things hitler said, say them as if you think it's something america should do today. Leftists would agree with you on your proposal. Facism is not a far cry from communism. In reality it's a leftist ideology. They branded it right wing to serve their agenda. View Quote Leftists realized they needed to distance themselves from Hitler after WW2, so they decided the defining characteristic of the Nazis was that they were Nationalists instead of them being Socialists. So under their new (false) paradigm, anyone who is a Nationalist = Nazi, meanwhile they completely deny the Nazis were Socialists at all. |
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Liberals think that Building a Wall is Fascist, but they seem to have forgotten that Hitler didn't Build a Wall.
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If you want
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By definition fascism is one form of a right-wing government. Communism is a leftist form. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nope although from the definition of Fascism those calling him that are the fascist not him. Also they are the bigots because they don't like his views. By definition fascism is one form of a right-wing government. Communism is a leftist form. False paradigm created by Leftists to obfuscate reality. |
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Not only that.....he "renegotiated" international agreements (Versailles, etc) and invested heavily in infrastructure. hmmm View Quote He renegotiated because they were trade agreements meant to punish Germany for WWI. As a socialist he also invented the unit of labor as a measure of currency. He didn't so much deregulate government as he centralized government and consolidated power away from the coalition he was elected to serve. |
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reading through this makes obama sound almost identical to mussolini.
ahem... Referring to the economics of John Maynard Keynes as “useful introduction to fascist economics,” Mussolini spent Italy into a structural deficit that grew exponentially. In Mussolini’s first year as Prime Minister in 1922, Italy’s national debt stood at 93 billion lire. By 1934, Italian historian Gaetano Salvemini, estimated Italy’s national debt had risen to 148,646,000,000 lire.[9] In 1943 the New York Times put Italy’s national debt as 405,823,000,000 lire.[10]
A former school teacher, Mussolini’s spending on the public sector, schools and infrastructure was considered extravagant. Mussolini “instituted a programme of public works hitherto unrivalled in modern Europe. Bridges, canals and roads were built, hospitals and schools, railway stations and orphanages; swamps were drained and land reclaimed, forests were planted and universities were endowed.”[11] As for the scope and spending on social welfare programs, Italian fascism “compared favorably with the more advanced European nations and in some respect was more progressive.”[12] When New York city politician Grover Aloysius Whalen asked Mussolini about the meaning behind Italian Fascism in 1939, the reply was: “It is like your New Deal!”[13] View Quote |
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Is there anything Trump has done besides saying "America first" that someone could interpret as fascist? I admit that I had to turn to Wikipedia to learn the definition of fascism, but national pride is the only thing that stands out to me that the Donald has talked about. National pride and wanting what's best for your country cannot possibly make someone a fascist, right? View Quote They're screaming fascism because accusing their opponents of doing what they themselves do is pretty much their thing. |
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Don't look for a definiton of fascism on Wikipedia. Try something with more economic accuracy like perhaps here.
Trump is probably the most anti-fascist President since.... Calvin Coolidge? |
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Nationalism is a sales pitch not a set of policies. It can be applied to many things. Liberals are just fucking stupid and don't understand what fascism is and like to call people they do t like fascists.
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Anyone who claims Trump is fascist just shows their own idiocy and ignorance.
If they actually knew what fascism was they'd be horrified by Hilary. |
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It wasn't written at national anthem, rather a song, with only parts of it becoming the German national anthem. Re-adopting things as slogans is nothing new. Trump "America First" has been used before, coincidentally by org that was sympathetic to nazi germany View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Duetchland uber alles" is the first line of the German national anthem written in 1841. 48 years before Hitler was born. It wasn't written at national anthem, rather a song, with only parts of it becoming the German national anthem. Re-adopting things as slogans is nothing new. Trump "America First" has been used before, coincidentally by org that was sympathetic to nazi germany There you have it folks, irrefutable evidence Trump is a fascist. Love your "kinda-sorta" defense after being confronted with facts. Weren't you chastising us earlier today about believeing Trump's "alternative facts"? And now here you are offering you very own? . |
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If it's part of nation-building initiative at any cost....that alone signals a problem. View Quote You know what dude, your right, that's a huge problem. We shouldn't be looking out for ourselves above all others, we should be looking out for everyone else first. I see it now, it's all become so clear, your alternative facts have convinced me, Trump is literally Hitler. LULZ |
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nationalism, protectionism both economic and social were all corner stones of fascist germany. Hitler motto was "Deutchland Umber Alles".....which translates as "Germany Above All" View Quote It's still their national anthem under one of their leaders you probably admire..............Angela Merkel. |
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Not only that.....he "renegotiated" international agreements (Versailles, etc) and invested heavily in infrastructure. hmmm View Quote Using your logic (snort-snort) they are alike! Hitler and Trump both use their hands to sign documents, both have(had) beating hearts and ate, wait for it......food! Damn, they are the same! Now I owe myself a new keyboard. I should not try typing sarcasm while eating jelly filled doughnuts. |
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Using your logic (snort-snort) they are alike! Hitler and Trump both use their hands to sign documents, both have(had) beating hearts and ate, wait for it......food! Damn, they are the same! Now I owe myself a new keyboard. I should not try typing sarcasm while eating jelly filled doughnuts. View Quote For example................. "Hitler and Trump are both right handed...........Trump is Hitler!!" |
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Using your logic (snort-snort) they are alike! Hitler and Trump both use their hands to sign documents, both have(had) beating hearts and ate, wait for it......food! Damn, they are the same! Now I owe myself a new keyboard. I should not try typing sarcasm while eating jelly filled doughnuts. View Quote I am surprised that PGABrainless' posts are not in crayon. He must have the DNC Publishing House "How to Compare Any Republican to Hitler" playbook in the colorful Pop-Up version. |
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Is there anything Trump has done besides saying "America first" that someone could interpret as fascist? I admit that I had to turn to Wikipedia to learn the definition of fascism, but national pride is the only thing that stands out to me that the Donald has talked about. National pride and wanting what's best for your country cannot possibly make someone a fascist, right? View Quote How is "America First" fascist? Nationalism is certainly a component of fascism, but the idea of "America First" or of national pride is not by itself nationalism. Donald Trump is certainly portraying himself as a nationalist, and may very well be one these days (hard to know for sure with him given how much he vacillates and the fact that he has no principles to ground him), but that would not make him a fascist. The Left and the media that is aligned with it loves to use the word to attack the Right even though Fascism is one the Left. It's a tactic meant to demonize others and turn people away from them by creating a perception of affiliation with what is generally accepted to be bad. The original association of Fascism, nationalism, national socialism, etc. with the Right during the interwar period is an example of this effort. The internationalist/progressive/communist Left started pronouncing such an association to both demonize their more nationalistic ideological competitors and to also demonize their enemies, those genuinely on the Right (conservatives, liberals, etc.). It was a matter of tainting both, and killing two birds with one stone, and it has stuck ever since the war. This is just an extension of that. The Left loves to lie or distort the truth (hence their love for euphemisms). Speaking of Fascism, I doubt that so much as 1 in 10 ARFCOMers could even describe what it is accurately. Certainly the bulk of those screaming that Trump is a Fascist cannot. Heck, the nationalism in Fascism is the wrong kind; it is not the type people claim as a trait of Donald Trump. Fascism created a then-new form of nationalism, which centred around the state and not the people, especially those of a particular culture or ethnicity (nationality). The nation was the state, and the state was the nation. This state-centric nationalism is also known as statism. It is broken down very simply by Mussolini's statement, "Everything through the state, everything for the state, nothing against the state." Fascism also adopts a derivation from socialism known as syndicalism (not corporatism in the sense that people like to claim). Fascism is, essentially, one of a number of forms of national syndicalism. It does, however, have traits that are very specific to the society of southern Europe and Italy especially, which is why it has rarely been replicated elsewhere. Most people are thinking of national socialism when they think of Fascism, which is socialism derived from Marxian principles combined with ethno-centric nationalism, but it is a different if related ideology, and actually predates Fascism by decades. |
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Nope although from the definition of Fascism those calling him that are the fascist not him. Also they are the bigots because they don't like his views. By definition fascism is one form of a right-wing government. Communism is a leftist form. The traits of Fascism make its proper classification as Leftist, not Rightist. It descends to a large extent from the ideas of Marx. After all, the original party split off from one that was part of the 2nd International, and its founder proclaimed himself to be a socialist until the day he died (Mussolini). The separate ideology of German National Socialism also came from a party split from one that was part of the 2nd International. The idea that such ideologies are suddenly Rightist despite being in opposition to Rightist ideas and in support of many Leftist ones is silly, if unfortunately too commonly accepted by those who don't know any better (and some who do or should). |
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I think the "I've got a pen" business is out of hand no matter which president is invoking it.
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Are you suggesting the federal government should not be involved in funding infrastructure? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hitler deregulated the government? What in the hell are you smoking? You're an awful troll. Not only that.....he "renegotiated" international agreements (Versailles, etc) and invested heavily in infrastructure. hmmm Are you suggesting the federal government should not be involved in funding infrastructure? No, it should not, and it was not granted the power to be involved outside of building post roads, i.e. roads to allow the transit of the mail, the delivery of which was granted as a Federal power. Infrastructure should largely be, and constitutionally is, a state matter. Certainly the government should not be involved in infrastructure anywhere near what is the case today, or in housing, or urban development, or any of that. |
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How is "America First" fascist? Nationalism is certainly a component of fascism, but the idea of "America First" or of national pride is not by itself nationalism. Donald Trump is certainly portraying himself as a nationalist, and may very well be one these days (hard to know for sure with him given how much he vacillates and the fact that he has no principles to ground him), but that would not make him a fascist. The Left and the media that is aligned with it loves to use the word to attack the Right even though Fascism is one the Left. It's a tactic meant to demonize others and turn people away from them by creating a perception of affiliation with what is generally accepted to be bad. The original association of Fascism, nationalism, national socialism, etc. with the Right during the interwar period is an example of this effort. The internationalist/progressive/communist Left started pronouncing such an association to both demonize their more nationalistic ideological competitors and to also demonize their enemies, those genuinely on the Right (conservatives, liberals, etc.). It was a matter of tainting both, and killing two birds with one stone, and it has stuck ever since the war. This is just an extension of that. The Left loves to lie or distort the truth (hence their love for euphemisms). [color=#ff0000]Speaking of Fascism, I doubt that so much as 1 in 10 ARFCOMers could even describe what it is accurately. Certainly the bulk of those screaming that Trump is a Fascist cannot. Heck, the nationalism in Fascism is the wrong kind; it is not the type people claim as a trait of Donald Trump. Fascism created a then-new form of nationalism, which centred around the state and not the people, especially those of a particular culture or ethnicity (nationality). The nation was the state, and the state was the nation. This state-centric nationalism is also known as statism. It is broken down very simply by Mussolini's statement, "Everything through the state, everything for the state, nothing against the state." Fascism also adopts a derivation from socialism known as syndicalism (not corporatism in the sense that people like to claim). Fascism is, essentially, one of a number of forms of national syndicalism. It does, however, have traits that are very specific to the society of southern Europe and Italy especially, which is why it has rarely been replicated elsewhere. Most people are thinking of national socialism when they think of Fascism, which is socialism derived from Marxian principles combined with ethno-centric nationalism, but it is a different if related ideology, and actually predates Fascism by decades. View Quote I was going to post something along these lines. |
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nationalism, protectionism both economic and social were all corner stones of fascist germany. Hitler motto was "Deutchland Umber Alles".....which translates as "Germany Above All" View Quote Yep and The Germans and the world praised him for it , it wasn't until he actually started being a fascist by going after the Jews and invading other countries then he was hated |
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What kind of stupid, useless cartoon is this? Or do I just not get how it's funny or clever? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Vice Presidential candidate Dan Quayle responded to alleged reporter Tom Brokaw's question about his experience. At the time, Quayle was a Congressman for 12 years; Kennedy had been one for 14 years. "I have as much experience in the Congress as Jack Kennedy did when he sought the presidency." Texas Senator/vice presidential candidate Lloyd Bentsen answered, "I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy." Quayle missed his opportunity to observe that Bentsen then compared to Lyndon Baines Johnson. ETA - fixt missing quote |
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