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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:50:35 PM EDT
Buddy of mine sent me video of his new HK91 with transferable sear.....Hard to believe 22k for a little piece of metal.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:54:22 PM EDT
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Buddy of mine sent me video of his new HK91 with transferable sear.....Hard to believe 22k for a little piece of metal. http://www.dndguns.com/images/hk_sear.jpg I guess if you got that much money to blow it might as well be on something that will probably hold its value. I think this thread is missing a video though. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:55:20 PM EDT
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At least with a DIAS you get a little more metal but at a higher price.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:55:54 PM EDT
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I guess if you got that much money to blow it might as well be on something that will probably hold its value. I think this thread is missing a video though. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:57:10 PM EDT
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Lessons in supply and demand....
If there were no Hughes Amendment, you could probably buy 220 of those for the same 22K. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:58:09 PM EDT
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Makes Cutthroat Kitchen auctions seem like a deal.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:58:22 PM EDT
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I guess if you got that much money to blow it might as well be on something that will probably hold its value. I think this thread is missing a video though. why wont it hold its value? |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:58:23 PM EDT
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So much freedom
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:59:15 PM EDT
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I guess if you got that much money to blow it might as well be on something that will probably hold its value. I think this thread is missing a video though. Trump president now. Automatic weapons will likely remain under the NFA but I wouldn't put $22,000 on that assumption. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:59:54 PM EDT
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why wont it hold its value? |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:00:05 PM EDT
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why wont it hold its value? He did imply that it would hold its value. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:02:38 PM EDT
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He didn't pay $22k for a sear, he paid for an interesting real world lesson in supply and demand coupled with false scarcity.
Absolutely fascinating and worth the lesson fee. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:03:20 PM EDT
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Its MIM poop!!!!
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:05:18 PM EDT
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He paid 22k for a piece of paper, the metal is cheap.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:05:56 PM EDT
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Isn't that about $10k under market right now?
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:06:51 PM EDT
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Total bullshit
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:07:51 PM EDT
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A good machinist would do it for LOTS LESS. But, the paper would still be expensive.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:08:28 PM EDT
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I came here expecting to see a wedding ring cut in half.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:08:51 PM EDT
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That's a good deal right now. The seller got anymore?
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:10:08 PM EDT
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Isn't that about $10k under market right now? +1 |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:10:47 PM EDT
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Eh, I have a little peice of titanium in my neck that cost 18.5k not including the install... Gonna make sure when I die the boy gets it so he can screw it to a gun or something...
 . Cool toy though OP....wish I could afford something like that someday..
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:10:59 PM EDT
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He's saying the sear will probably hold it's value. Yea I'm saying it will probably hold its value. But there's always that tiny chance that it wont. In 1 of 2 scenarios I can think of I'd rather have the sear than the cash. 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:11:46 PM EDT
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Isn't that about $10k under market right now? It is. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:12:50 PM EDT
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why wont it hold its value? Zero fucks given about reading comprehension |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:19:25 PM EDT
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Isn't that about $10k under market right now? |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:20:25 PM EDT
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Eh, I have a little peice of titanium in my neck that cost 18.5k not including the install... Gonna make sure when I die the boy gets it so he can screw it to a gun or something... . Cool toy though OP....wish I could afford something like that someday..I feel your pain! I've got three pieces of titanium and 52 screws that cost $250k (including installation of course). |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:20:43 PM EDT
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The real shame is bout 25 years ago, those were about $200.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:25:33 PM EDT
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Back when Volmer was doing such things
I have owned 3 30cal HK rifles full auto would probably not be a great deal of fun. Fired a full auto M-14 in basic at Ft Campbell back in 68 as I got issued one that was able to be fired full auto my DI had the switch with him one range session and let me have at it....shit went flying not many targets were hit. The M60 was far more fun...M79 with HE a step up from that...LAW rockets even more fun....Claymores,Frags,Concussion and WP grenades fun to. Engineer packs with C4 in them were the maximum amount of fun though.. Glad I got it all out my system when I was young. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:26:36 PM EDT
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Its pretty cheap for a sear in a host. Partly its a 91 not an mp5k/sp89. And it looks cast not stamped. Still a smoking deal. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:27:42 PM EDT
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Lessons in supply and demand.... If there were no Hughes Amendment, you could probably buy 220 of those for the same 22K. Full guns maybe. But just a sear? $500 or less |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:28:03 PM EDT
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As far as the "investment" goes, I'd say odds are nothing is going to change any time soon regarding the Hughes amendment.
I am curious to see what the popular perception is when the next mg price guide gets released, tho. Just going from a snapshot of subgun classifieds, M11s are breaching the 8k (without extras) level now. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:28:45 PM EDT
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The metal is cheap, I can turn out RDIAS for about $5.00 a piece on the mill, but as others have said, that damn piece of paper is expensive!
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:29:10 PM EDT
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Buddy of mine sent me video of his new HK91 with transferable sear.....Hard to believe 22k for a little piece of metal. http://www.dndguns.com/images/hk_sear.jpg He didn't pay 22K for that little $1.50 piece of metal. He's paying the king for the privelege to OWN that $1.50 piece of metal! |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:43:41 PM EDT
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He didn't pay 22K for that little $1.50 piece of metal. He's paying the king for the privelege to OWN that $1.50 piece of metal! No, he paid $200 for the privilege |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:47:23 PM EDT
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3d scan it for giggles.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:50:49 PM EDT
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3d scan it for giggles. You could draw that in a 3d modelling program in about 3 or 4 minutes. It's pretty dead nuts simple. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:52:16 PM EDT
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Just out of curiosity how perishable are mg parts?
I know some parts can be replaced as they wear out, but the registered part? That sear in OP doesn't look serialized. How is that tracked? Is it possible there are MGs on the registry today that are 100% a different gun than when first registered? That is, do they have the same conformation and the serial# was restamped on a replacement part, but the rest of the gun, in entirety is new or replacement as well? This has probably been covered ad nauseum in the tech forums. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:52:58 PM EDT
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Stupid laws distort common sense.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:00:54 PM EDT
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Just out of curiosity how perishable are mg parts? I know some parts can be replaced as they wear out, but the registered part? That sear in OP doesn't look serialized. How is that tracked? Is it possible there are MGs on the registry today that are 100% a different gun than when first registered? That is, do they have the same conformation and the serial# was restamped on a replacement part, but the rest of the gun, in entirety is new or replacement as well? This has probably been covered ad nauseum in the tech forums. Yes. Not the same thing, but there was a dustup back in the early 2000s? over several registered Macs that were used to sneak 1919 builds onto the registry via form 4 transfers and creative paperwork. As for guns or parts getting worn or broken? I'd just about guarantee it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:07:27 PM EDT
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Trump president now. Automatic weapons will likely remain under the NFA but I wouldn't put $22,000 on that assumption. You'd be surprised. Some guy that pays $22,000 for something like that has enough disposable income to fight any repeal of the Hughes amendment and will side with fear mongering leftists in their fights against "Muh-sheen guns" in order to protect his investment. Class III machine gun owners talk a good talk, but they'll stab every gun owner in the back to keep their investments expensive. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:07:33 PM EDT
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Just out of curiosity how perishable are mg parts? I know some parts can be replaced as they wear out, but the registered part? That sear in OP doesn't look serialized. How is that tracked? Is it possible there are MGs on the registry today that are 100% a different gun than when first registered? That is, do they have the same conformation and the serial# was restamped on a replacement part, but the rest of the gun, in entirety is new or replacement as well? This has probably been covered ad nauseum in the tech forums. The sear pictured will be electrostenciled on the underside or side facing away from the camera. Most machine guns consist of one registered component that is legally "the machine gun." That conversion sear, for example. My Sten's tube is the registered component. The body of an RDIAS, or the body of a Lightning Link. An M16 lower receiver is the machine gun (hole drilled for the sear + proper internal pocket). The remaining pieces required for full auto function, like an M16 autosear, are unregulated and can be replaced freely. Make sense? Some machine guns are actually a group of components to my understanding, like an M2 carbine or an M60, but I believe even those have one component that's serialized. This area is outside of my wheelhouse, but someone else can clarify. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:11:22 PM EDT
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Lessons in supply and demand.... If there were no Hughes Amendment, you could probably buy 220 of those for the same 22K. Shit, if you weren't going to be made a felon and throw in prison for it, you could make those for next to nothing with bar stock, a hack saw, a drill and a set of files. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:11:31 PM EDT
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The Government created a supply shortage.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:17:43 PM EDT
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I'll give him $25k tomorrow. Seriously
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:23:11 PM EDT
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I'll give him $25k tomorrow. Seriously Dollars lol |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:24:03 PM EDT
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someone explain something to me....
even though this is all a violation of the 2nd, just play along. I am trusted to buy a firearm with permision I am trusted to conceal said firearm. But I am NOT trusted with a new select fire firearm, or a can, or something else. This shit makes no sense to me, and it never has 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:25:32 PM EDT
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I bought several HK sears for $350-400ea. from 1989 to '93 from a fellow that had 60 of them.
Wish I would have bought them all, they've been paying off handsomely. 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:33:41 PM EDT
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He stole it at $22k!
It's crazy to think what this stuff goes for. I just got my new transferable Ramo 1919 side plate. I brought it into work and showed my boss, he says that's about a $150 part. He about shit when I told him I gave almost $14k for it.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:36:53 PM EDT
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Friend of mine had a literal BOAT LOAD of DIAS made ,somewhere in Europe,prior to '86.He was SELLING them for $200 ........
Yes,he made a veritable fortune........ 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:44:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2017 7:00:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat is that around your neck? |
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