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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:47:34 PM EDT
Am i looking too deep into this, can someone explain to me how this is not the same bullshit doublespeak we have been dealing with all along? This man is calculative in his actions and words.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:53:06 PM EDT
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Their name is isil. Why would that bother you? They're called isil isis and dash.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:53:54 PM EDT
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I've heard a couple explanations. The actual phrase that ISIS/ISIL comes from doesn't translate well into English, so it's debated on whether the Levant or Syria is more appropriate. Using levant instead of syria could also be a way to present the group as a larger threat to the area, rather than just Iraq and Syria.
And Mattis is probably one of the most educated on the subject, I highly doubt he would be using the term as some sort of "doublespeak" as you say. What's your problem with ISIL? |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:54:09 PM EDT
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What's the problem, exactly?
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:54:29 PM EDT
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Um.....it is ISIL
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:55:12 PM EDT
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Their name is isil. Why would that bother you? They're called isil isis and dash. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:55:32 PM EDT
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What's the problem, exactly? OP, calm your tits. This is Mattis. If he wants to put ISIL on their tombstone, he'll put ISIL on their tombstone. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:57:08 PM EDT
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I forget how but ISIL is symbolic of something, so i dont like to use it, but it is one of their official names.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:57:17 PM EDT
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The way explained to me on these very pages is calling ISIS - ISIL was a slight developed under the Obama administration at the land of Israel and the jews. I'm certain I am not imagining things.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:57:22 PM EDT
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Using ISIL and the Levant form is supposed to be a slight to Israel. I haven't researched it that much but it has to do with how much land area is assumed to be theirs?? A lot of people felt Barry used ISIL to slight Israel.
I have no idea what the truth is. I have always said ISIS. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:58:14 PM EDT
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Yeah, they're called ISIL.
The term "Da'esh" is stupid to me, but it makes them slightly upset, so that's funny, too. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:58:15 PM EDT
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You can bet Mattis doesn't tweet. An aid did that.
To answer the question what does it mattter, it matters because the Levant includes Israel. It gives them credit for more than they are. I think it won't be long until they arent a problem anymore, if Trump turns him loose on them. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:58:42 PM EDT
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She lost OP get over it. Trump!!!
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:59:06 PM EDT
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It really doesn't matter but ISIL is the accurate term based on the Arabic to English translation. Think of it this way. You could say, America, or United States or US etc... they all mean the same thing and nobody would really be wrong using any of them
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:59:27 PM EDT
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He can call them Susan for all I care. It's what he does to them that matters.
all this safe space speech is dumb and a waste of fucking time. I don't care if you call them Islamic terrorists either. I care that they are no longer a threat |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:59:44 PM EDT
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Why is the tweet dated Jan. 8?
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:00:37 PM EDT
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She lost OP get over it. Trump!!! |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:00:53 PM EDT
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What's the problem, exactly? |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:01:12 PM EDT
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Toast is their new name.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:01:15 PM EDT
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She lost OP get over it. Trump!!! What ever the fuck that means. 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:01:40 PM EDT
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Shut up already. Well if it isn't the biggest Nevertrumper chiming in. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:02:11 PM EDT
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Using ISIL and the Levant form is supposed to be a slight to Israel. I haven't researched it that much but it has to do with how much land area is assumed to be theirs?? A lot of people felt Barry used ISIL to slight Israel. I have no idea what the truth is. I have always said ISIS. When Barry used it, he was being provocative. Now I don't know what to believe. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:02:37 PM EDT
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OP, do you know who he is talking about? Then he got his point across right?
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:02:51 PM EDT
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Why is the tweet dated Jan. 8? Good point. I was just perusing that account and ran across that and didn't even consider or notice the date. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:03:01 PM EDT
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LOOK AT THE DATE ON THE TWEET!!!
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:03:32 PM EDT
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Toast is their new name. This. I don't care what people call them as long as they get deaded with the quickness. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:03:58 PM EDT
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Obama and co refused to use the term ISIS, therefore, ISIS is my standard term.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:04:51 PM EDT
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Toast is their new name. 
WINNAH! |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:05:23 PM EDT
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Obama and co refused to use the term ISIS, therefore, ISIS is my standard term. This right here. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:05:29 PM EDT
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I propose we refer to them as ISGF, the Islamic State of Goat Fuckers.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:06:17 PM EDT
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Using ISIL implies that you recognize their claims extend to the territory on which Israel sits.
Obama used ISIL as well, but his doublespeak implied he was ok with that claim. Mattis is exactly the opposite. Obama was almost a dove on ISIL. Mattis is not. That's the difference, not the "L" vs. "S". |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:06:30 PM EDT
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Use whichever term the goat fuckers hate the most.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:08:38 PM EDT
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Islamic State of Iraq and Syria or Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Pick one.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:08:51 PM EDT
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When is this "Meet the press"?
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:10:53 PM EDT
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Dude, its Mattis we're talking about. He can call them "The Smurfs" for all I care, I have no doubt he's intending to send them straight to the cook pot. Or Hell.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:15:43 PM EDT
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What's the problem, exactly? Seconded |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:20:07 PM EDT
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When O said it, it was a sneering slight to Israel. When Mattis uses it, seems to me that he is indicating Israel is under threat and he is giving a supporting nod to Israel. That is my two cents worth anyhow.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:21:11 PM EDT
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What's the problem, exactly? Seconded Obama used a word or term. We dont like Obama, therefore we have to hate that term and question the integrity of anyone that uses a word or term he did. This is to maintain our identity as hardcore conservatives. Dude is living rent free in so many heads. And its just sad. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:22:39 PM EDT
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UBL or OBL, what difference does it make as their all going to go die.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:24:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, they're called ISIL. The term "Da'esh" is stupid to me, but it makes them slightly upset, so that's funny, too. When I used to be on Facebook, I noticed liberals going out of their way to call them "Da'esh", so I kept calling them "ISIS". |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:24:53 PM EDT
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Am i looking too deep into this, can someone explain to me how this is not the same bullshit doublespeak we have been dealing with all along? This man is calculative in his actions and words.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58080/Screenshot-2017-01-22-13-40-28-1-131363.JPG
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:26:08 PM EDT
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What's the problem, exactly? It was roundly bashed in GD as Obamaspeak. OP's not crazy; a little high strung, maybe. But, Pepperidge Farms remembers. If Obama had said the sky was blue, all of GD would have become sudden experts in optical refraction just to prove otherwise. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:26:38 PM EDT
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Obama used a word or term. We dont like Obama, therefore we have to hate that term and question the integrity of anyone that uses a word or term he did. This is to maintain our identity as hardcore conservatives. Dude is living rent free in so many heads. And its just sad. Because; words don't matter |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:29:23 PM EDT
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ISIL and ISIL are both the same exact thing, just two different translations. The Islamic State is involved in more areas than just Iraq and Syria, so "The Levant" translation reflects this better.
ISIS was the term generally adopted by the media at first, and as a result most people are more familiar with the term "ISIS" ISIL is the State Department term. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:30:07 PM EDT
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I'm not real concerned what they're called as long as we start referring to them in the past tense as soon as possible.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:32:12 PM EDT
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didnt gd flip out at zero for saying the same thing?
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:32:29 PM EDT
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They're all muslim terrorist shit heads. Who give a fuck what we call them?
They're all after the same thing: killing anyone who disagrees with their sick, twisted ideology. In 2001 they were called the Taliban. Tomorrow, they could be called anything. They're not welcome. They need to be eliminated. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:32:59 PM EDT
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This right here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obama and co refused to use the term ISIS, therefore, ISIS is my standard term. This right here. Obama and co also used U.S. Constitution. Can we not use that now? Or are you going to explain that we can use that because he was using USC in a twisted way to push an agenda? Kinda like ISIS vs ISIL. Defining your words and values as the opposite of your enemy is how you end up with the bad kind of blind demagoguery extremism. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:38:25 PM EDT
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Because; words don't matter Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obama used a word or term. We dont like Obama, therefore we have to hate that term and question the integrity of anyone that uses a word or term he did. This is to maintain our identity as hardcore conservatives. Dude is living rent free in so many heads. And its just sad. Because; words don't matter Nice use of the semicolon there. Of course words matter; not nearly as much as the intent of the speaker though. Most everyone here should be familiar with the concept. Endless posts about the Federalist Papers and the intent of the writers of those words. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:38:36 PM EDT
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You can bet Mattis doesn't tweet. An aid did that. To answer the question what does it mattter, it matters because the Levant includes Israel. It gives them credit for more than they are. I think it won't be long until they arent a problem anymore, if Trump turns him loose on them. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:39:11 PM EDT
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Mattis can use any term he damn well pleases. I actually believe his term for his reasons over Obama. I know it seems hypocritical but don't care.
MAGA |
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