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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:52:31 PM EDT
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Chuck Todd was 100% correct. Conway looked slimy. Not an encouraging first couple of days. Were we watching the same clip? |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:53:46 PM EDT
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The media has gotten used to either a passive (Bushes) or an outright friendly/partner/fellow traveller (Clinton and Obama) media interaction.
There is a new sheriff in town and he and his people are not pulling any punches. Since very few of the current crop are old enough to have worked during the Reagan administration, this is just utterly baffling to them. They don't know what to do with this. This will be a war. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:00:17 PM EDT
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I'm excited for the new relationship with the press. Having said that, this interview wasn't good for our cause.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:02:28 PM EDT
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why they go on those shows is beyond me, shun MSNBC CNN
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:04:26 PM EDT
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Chuck Todd was 100% correct. Conway looked slimy. Not an encouraging first couple of days. Were we watching the same clip? I was watching the one where he tried to get an answer out of her as to why Spicer stood up and made a jackass of himself by saying things that obviously aren't true. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:04:35 PM EDT
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Yes, she ripped into the press. But she also dodged the questions that were asked. fuck them, she doesn't have to answer their stupid ass question designed to trap |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:09:36 PM EDT
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I loved how he laughed at her and then said he didn't.
As to the crowd size, here's an article from NBC: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Trump-Inauguration-Crowd-Estimates-410559995.html The photo used in the 2009/2017 comparison shows the white mats they put on the grass to protect it. There are large, white areas. Compare it to the photo taken from the reverse perspective, later in the day. You can see one white area. The rest is covered with people. They picked the image they wanted and it's been addressed. Entry was restricted when they took the Trump picture. The improper use of photographs that distort the appearance of an event is an issue that goes back to at least the 1970s in this country. I was taught it in a journalism class. I can't remember which primary it was, but one of the democrat candidates gave an impromptu speech to a crowd. I think it was in New Hampshire. Someone took a picture of the candidate. The photo was shot from within the crowd and the people weren't standing close together. The photo showed a dozen people listening to the candidate; what a loser. Other photos showed that there were several hundred people at the speech, but the one that was used nationally made it seem like no one cared. That picture pretty much destroyed his campaign. It was taught in the college because it showed how an honest photograph can distort what happened and how it can wrongly affect public perception. Now they do it on purpose. Then they laugh when they insult people and lie when they get called on it. The press is the most useless group of people in this country. Donald Trump should hire Dave to manage crowd control. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:11:57 PM EDT
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I'm surprised someone hasn't set off a vbied outside of one of these "news" service's buildings. A lot of people are feeling like they are being railroaded by people with a pulpit. The "media", Hollywood, entertainers, etc. are attempting to marginalize people that don't think the way they do. Something is eventually going to happen.
There was that guy a few years ago that sent some white powder in the mail to some news people. He didn't get anyone though. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:18:01 PM EDT
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Fucking guy got owned!
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:20:54 PM EDT
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I'm really starting to like her.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:21:23 PM EDT
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I was watching the one where he tried to get an answer out of her as to why Spicer stood up and made a jackass of himself by saying things that obviously aren't true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chuck Todd was 100% correct. Conway looked slimy. Not an encouraging first couple of days. Were we watching the same clip? I was watching the one where he tried to get an answer out of her as to why Spicer stood up and made a jackass of himself by saying things that obviously aren't true. METT-T? More like Low-T. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:22:30 PM EDT
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I'm really starting to like her.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:22:50 PM EDT
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Chuck Todd was 100% correct. Conway looked slimy. Not an encouraging first couple of days. Disagree. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:25:15 PM EDT
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I think it helps to remember the rich tradition of honest Press Secretaries ....
 Ed Henry and Jay Carney Battle Over Eric Holder''s Lies |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:27:08 PM EDT
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Were we watching the same clip? |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:28:42 PM EDT
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Chuck Todd was 100% correct. Conway looked slimy. Not an encouraging first couple of days. Conway??? Get atta town |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:30:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:31:29 PM EDT
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In eight years, was Zippy or any one his surrogates questioned that sharply? Never. That's all you need to know.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:32:02 PM EDT
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I'm really starting to like her. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:32:06 PM EDT
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I still think Milo should sub in some days for press secretary just for massive liberal outrage. And yes, refer to Trump as Daddy. The LBGTQAIWTFBBQ would have a meltdown as he uses their own culture against them.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:32:37 PM EDT
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She's hot
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:37:15 PM EDT
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The photo used in the 2009/2017 comparison shows the white mats they put on the grass to protect it. There are large, white areas. Compare it to the photo taken from the reverse perspective, later in the day. You can see one white area. The rest is covered with people. They picked the image they wanted and it's been addressed. Entry was restricted when they took the Trump picture. Your "reverse perspective, later in the day." invalidates your argument. The 2009/2017 comparison was a picture from the same camera (mounted on the Washington Monument) at the exact same time of day (and both inaugurations started at the same time). Apples-to-Apples. Why the concern that 2009 had a bigger crowd? That was the inauguration of the first minority President. That's big. That's new. Big and new draws a larger crowd than the normal event. Trump is a rich white guy (true even if you don't like the connotation). Nothing new there. That gets a normal sized crowd. 2009 was an outlier, not a new normal. Also, the DC area (DC-Northern Virginia-Southern Maryland) voted Democrat more than it had for the prior 3 Republican Presidents. That means that there were fewer supporters living within there-and-back driving distance (and DC traffic sucks) to attend which also drives down the numbers. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:37:54 PM EDT
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As long as Trump keeps the media focused on themselves, and it's laughable how easy it's been for him to do, they're not reporting on anything else he does.
Maybe I'm misreading the whole thing, but I think misdirection, much as magician's do, is one of his main goals with the media. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:39:19 PM EDT
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METT-T? More like Low-T. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chuck Todd was 100% correct. Conway looked slimy. Not an encouraging first couple of days. Were we watching the same clip? I was watching the one where he tried to get an answer out of her as to why Spicer stood up and made a jackass of himself by saying things that obviously aren't true. METT-T? More like Low-T. Meh, attacking a mans masculinity over what he thought of a tv interview speaks volumes. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:39:45 PM EDT
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Chuck Todd is a little weasel. His tactic of grasping one tiny thing while ignoring everything else (including the MLK bust story, which he poo-poo'd off) proved the press sec's, and KAC's point, which is that the media is both partisan and hostile towards Trump.
The longer I watched, the more evident it became. MAGA! |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:40:26 PM EDT
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DAMN, she'd look good on the end of my dick!
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:41:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:43:21 PM EDT
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Chuck Todd was 100% correct. Conway looked slimy. Not an encouraging first couple of days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your "reverse perspective, later in the day." invalidates your argument. The 2009/2017 comparison was a picture from the same camera (mounted on the Washington Monument) at the exact same time of day (and both inaugurations started at the same time). Apples-to-Apples. Why the concern that 2009 had a bigger crowd? That was the inauguration of the first minority President. That's big. That's new. Big and new draws a larger crowd than the normal event. Trump is a rich white guy (true even if you don't like the connotation). Nothing new there. That gets a normal sized crowd. 2009 was an outlier, not a new normal. Also, the DC area (DC-Northern Virginia-Southern Maryland) voted Democrat more than it had for the prior 3 Republican Presidents. That means that there were fewer supporters living within there-and-back driving distance (and DC traffic sucks) to attend which also drives down the numbers. I thought CTR was shut down. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:43:45 PM EDT
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You missed the part where security was tighter getting everyone through the metal detectors took much longer than previous years.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:45:07 PM EDT
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Chuck Todd's wife is/was a DNC operative. That should tell you everything you need to know.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:47:45 PM EDT
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Unfortunately she said "Alternative facts," so we'll be hearing that for the next eight years. Although that inauguration director guy came on later and explained that perfectly, they'll forget about him Alt Right, Alt Facts, Alt Government. I'm good with that. Vive la alternative! |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:48:39 PM EDT
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Tomorrows first WH briefing should be interesting.  Has anyone started an official thread about it yet? If not, someone should. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:52:24 PM EDT
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Has anyone started an official thread about it yet? If not, someone should. Bali Bali! |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:53:44 PM EDT
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I was watching the one where he tried to get an answer out of her as to why Spicer stood up and made a jackass of himself by saying things that obviously aren't true. Did you see the part when Todd laughed at her and then said he didn't? |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:02:21 PM EDT
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The photo used in the 2009/2017 comparison shows the white mats they put on the grass to protect it. There are large, white areas. Compare it to the photo taken from the reverse perspective, later in the day. You can see one white area. The rest is covered with people. They picked the image they wanted and it's been addressed. Entry was restricted when they took the Trump picture. Your "reverse perspective, later in the day." invalidates your argument. The 2009/2017 comparison was a picture from the same camera (mounted on the Washington Monument) at the exact same time of day (and both inaugurations started at the same time). Apples-to-Apples. Why the concern that 2009 had a bigger crowd? That was the inauguration of the first minority President. That's big. That's new. Big and new draws a larger crowd than the normal event. Trump is a rich white guy (true even if you don't like the connotation). Nothing new there. That gets a normal sized crowd. 2009 was an outlier, not a new normal. Also, the DC area (DC-Northern Virginia-Southern Maryland) voted Democrat more than it had for the prior 3 Republican Presidents. That means that there were fewer supporters living within there-and-back driving distance (and DC traffic sucks) to attend which also drives down the numbers. Look at the photos again. The pic from 2009 was time stamped 11:30. The one from 2017 was time stamped 11:04. If all the entrances weren't open at the time, and witness accounts say that was true, then those twenty six minutes make a big difference. I'm also not sure if it's a valid comparison whether people showed up earlier for the 2009 inauguration than the 2017 one. Are we counting the crowd or watching the clock and telling them that they can't have desert because they were late? ETA - (added quote) I also don't care who had a bigger crowd. Crowd estimates at the 2009 inauguration varied by over 1,000,000 people. Spicer's comment included the tv audience, perhaps even the 14 people who watched it on CNN. The issue is press manipulation of what happened and I posted an NBC article about the inaccuracy inherent in crowd estimates. That article also mentioned the tv audience. Read it; it was surprisingly fair given that it was from NBC. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:03:59 PM EDT
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You missed the part where security was tighter getting everyone through the metal detectors took much longer than previous years. A USSS spokesperson tells us no magnetometers were used on the National Mall for Trump's inauguration. — Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 22, 2017 According to two senior law enforcement officials, magnetometers WERE NOT USED in the areas Spicer said they were on the Mall. — Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) January 22, 2017 |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:04:52 PM EDT
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THEY STILL DON'T "GET IT". They're still reading that old, tattered playbook that has made them one of the most despised institutions in the country. Exactly right. After she bitch slapped him verbally he goes to a segment showing how many miles from DC the last few Presidents won counties. Made out like it was catastrophic that Trump went to like 40 miles vs 21 previously. Well no shit genius. The guy runs and is elected on "draining the swamp" and the inhabitants of the swamp didn't vote for him. That's a real head scratcher. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:05:02 PM EDT
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Yes, she ripped into the press. But she also dodged the questions that were asked. She didn't dodge anything, we know why the PS did what he did and she explained it by saying fuck you without being crass. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:06:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:07:37 PM EDT
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I was watching the one where he tried to get an answer out of her as to why Spicer stood up and made a jackass of himself by saying things that obviously aren't true. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:08:40 PM EDT
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i think trump and cruz were the only two in the field of republicans who won't take any shit from the msm. trump much more so.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:11:08 PM EDT
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I still think Milo should sub in some days for press secretary just for massive liberal outrage. And yes, refer to Trump as Daddy. The LBGTQAIWTFBBQ would have a meltdown as he uses their own culture against them.
It would be epic! |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:14:44 PM EDT
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I agree the crowd size shouldn't be that big a deal (2009 first black president, DC full of dems, etc.), but I'm wondering if the Trump team deliberately chose to make an issue of it: send Spicer out with an unequivocal challenge regarding the reported crowd size, knowing for certain that this would be grabbed by tools like Chuck Todd on the Sunday shows. I'm sure KAC already knew what was coming long before the cameras started rolling.
Not the first time Trump has played the media - he's playing chess. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:17:44 PM EDT
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The comparison photos circulating are bullshit and amount to fake news - by the time Trump was speaking the place was packed and there was none of those "exposed white spaces" on the turf. That was the point of the press conference who really cares who had more people.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:24:55 PM EDT
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Is it wrong if Kelly Anne gives me a boner? Nope. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:25:22 PM EDT
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Has any CIA cone out and say they were upset? Cuz that's all that matters. F Chunk Tard is a disgrace. I think he needs to look up what "litigating" means. What it does NOT mean is "refusing to let the left have the final word on what a fact is." Tim Russert is rolling over in his grave. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:27:21 PM EDT
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DAMN, she'd look good on the end of my dick! |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:32:35 PM EDT
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The fake reporting on the MLK bust is what started it all. @2:55.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcBblq-QOo4 |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:33:05 PM EDT
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Someone needs to photoshop chuck todds head into one of those pussy costumes at twit the fuck out of it.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:33:10 PM EDT
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I was watching the one where he tried to get an answer out of her as to why Spicer stood up and made a jackass of himself by saying things that obviously aren't true. Spicer laid it all out. Nobody... NOBODY... even tries to keep a count of how many people are actually on the lawn vs. on the surrounding streets, vs. being at home having a margarita. If you just look at verifiable FACTS, one fact is that public transit ridership was way up the day of Trump's inauguration vs. Obama's. Another fact relies on TV ratings. And that's about it for FACTS. If you're claiming that those facts "obviously aren't true", then I challenge you to back up your claim and prove it. |
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