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Posted: 1/16/2017 5:58:24 PM EDT
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False.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 5:58:56 PM EDT
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You can pick up a couple Valentine ONE's for a round 500 bucks each.
Thousand dollars per plane: BOOM. Fixed. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 5:59:17 PM EDT
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How many Su-35 are fly worthy today? Not combat ready. Just flight worthy?
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Posted: 1/16/2017 5:59:51 PM EDT
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Wonder if the F-22 can be retrofitted with DAS
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:10:13 PM EDT
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Why can't we do this?
 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileDo we REALLY need dogfighters any more? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:13:21 PM EDT
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Lol. The man in the drivers seat plays a big part as well, and Russia has had IRST forever. If it was a capability we needed, it would be there.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:19:48 PM EDT
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Absolute BS
Vince |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:29:47 PM EDT
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my kayak has side scan imaging...
ergo - my kayak is better than raptor |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:30:24 PM EDT
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Does the US even still stock any non-fire and forget radar AAMs?
I know the old AIM-7 Sparrows had to be guided, but IIRC isn't AAMRAM self guiding? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:31:28 PM EDT
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Sounds like fake news.
However, as always, we will have our next gen aircraft combat ready by the time the russians and chicoms get their stolen plan copies of our previous gen planes in the air. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:38:12 PM EDT
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Well I heard that it doesn't bleed energy below 300 knots like the MiG-28. However, the MiG-28 does have a problem with its inverted flight tanks. It won't do a negative G push over.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:41:50 PM EDT
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Well I heard that it doesn't bleed energy below 300 knots like the MiG-28. However, the MiG-28 does have a problem with its inverted flight tanks. It won't do a negative G push over. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:43:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI hate it when it does that... |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:45:06 PM EDT
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Does the US even still stock any non-fire and forget radar AAMs? I know the old AIM-7 Sparrows had to be guided, but IIRC isn't AAMRAM self guiding? I believe the AAMRAM is only F&F inside a certain range, but its range can be extended if it is homing using the jet's radar. Also, I think it is less susceptible to countermeasures if the mother ship keeps radar lock until the AAMRAM intercepts. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:45:26 PM EDT
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False. Pretty much that entire article is bullshit. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:52:29 PM EDT
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Why can't we do this? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/Awacs3-onw-127201.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/635920764844302418-B21-hires-127202.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/AIM-120C-5-127203.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/92-127204.JPG Do we REALLY need dogfighters any more? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 6:59:03 PM EDT
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Does the US even still stock any non-fire and forget radar AAMs? I know the old AIM-7 Sparrows had to be guided, but IIRC isn't AAMRAM self guiding? depending on the mode it's fired in, AMRAAM gets mid-course guidance from the aircraft until it gets close enough to turn on its own seeker |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:02:03 PM EDT
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Our biggest strength in addition to the quality of personnel is the level of battlefield integration particularly in tracking airborne targets.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:36:13 PM EDT
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Wow. How can someone gather that much program minutia ... and then bone the really easy stuff like the F-18 E/F target/nav pod stations, and Su-35 SAR?
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:44:11 PM EDT
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How many Su-35 are fly worthy today? Not combat ready. Just flight worthy? They only built about 60 of them. Russia relies heavily on old Soviet era SU-27's. Their entire nation's GDP is less than California's... |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:52:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:58:40 PM EDT
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They only built about 60 of them. Russia relies heavily on old Soviet era SU-27's. Their entire nation's GDP is less than California's... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many Su-35 are fly worthy today? Not combat ready. Just flight worthy? They only built about 60 of them. Russia relies heavily on old Soviet era SU-27's. Their entire nation's GDP is less than California's... The SU-27 is still a fairly capable front line fighter, but it wasn't designed to compete with the F35, it was intended to counter the F15, and in the 80s and early 90s it did that pretty good. I would consider the SU-27 superior to the Mirage, Eurofighter, and GDs favorite Gripen, however I'm just a GenAv pilot, so take that FWIW. SU35M does put on a helluva flight demo, and IMHO, they have us beat in thrust vectoring(and its not a bad looking piece either, would fly anywhere)  Paris Air Show 2013 - Su-35 vertical take-off + Air Show (HD) |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:59:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:06:00 PM EDT
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What's y'alls honest, no bs opinion of the SU27s they have now? Did you get a chance to fly against them at Red Flag? Here's a Russian(dubbed in English) documentary on the SU 27 I saw recently  Building the SU 27 - The Best Fighter Jet in the World |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:10:49 PM EDT
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Does the US even still stock any non-fire and forget radar AAMs? I know the old AIM-7 Sparrows had to be guided, but IIRC isn't AAMRAM self guiding? Only for the last few seconds of flight. Until then, the launching aircraft's radar provides target position and motion updates to the missile via datalink. In general, the longer that the fighter provides datalink, the smaller the uncertainty volume that the missile has to search and the higher the Pk. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:12:18 PM EDT
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Wow. How can someone gather that much program minutia ... and then bone the really easy stuff like the F-18 E/F target/nav pod stations, and Su-35 SAR? Super Hornet was supposed to have those fancy cheek radars, but PMA 265 had to trade performance for cost and schedule. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:17:38 PM EDT
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The SU-27 is still a fairly capable front line fighter, but it wasn't designed to compete with the F35, it was intended to counter the F15, and in the 80s and early 90s it did that pretty good. I would consider the SU-27 superior to the Mirage, Eurofighter, and GDs favorite Gripen, however I'm just a GenAv pilot, so take that FWIW. SU35M does put on a helluva flight demo, and IMHO, they have us beat in thrust vectoring(and its not a bad looking piece either, would flry anywhere)  ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlmoNtcyhYThey aren't better at thrust vector tech. In point if fact, the F22 doesn't employ 3D vectoring because it offers no advantage in ACM, & was dumped for this reason. On the contrary, lateral pivoting is great for doing aerial demos, but effectively bleeds off energy, which is death in ACM, as I'm sure you are probably aware. Additionally, the 22’s FCS is designed to modulate engine output to sufficiently accomod lateral vector manuevering, if needed. They got it figured. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:18:00 PM EDT
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For those asking how many Su-35's are operational. How many F-22's are. Hint: Not many.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:22:01 PM EDT
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Su-35s seen via an F-18's ATFLIR pod over Syria.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:28:32 PM EDT
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Why can't we do this? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/Awacs3-onw-127201.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/635920764844302418-B21-hires-127202.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/AIM-120C-5-127203.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/92-127204.JPG Do we REALLY need dogfighters any more? Do you even TOP GUN bro |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:34:25 PM EDT
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Only for the last few seconds of flight. Until then, the launching aircraft's radar provides target position and motion updates to the missile via datalink. In general, the longer that the fighter provides datalink, the smaller the uncertainty volume that the missile has to search and the higher the Pk. IIRC, the Brits didn't initially fit their Tornado ADV's with the datalink, and were shocked that the AMRAAMs weren't as good as the Skyflashes they replaced. That datalink is important. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:34:38 PM EDT
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The SU-27 is still a fairly capable front line fighter, but it wasn't designed to compete with the F35, it was intended to counter the F15, and in the 80s and early 90s it did that pretty good. I would consider the SU-27 superior to the Mirage, Eurofighter, and GDs favorite Gripen, however I'm just a GenAv pilot, so take that FWIW. SU35M does put on a helluva flight demo, and IMHO, they have us beat in thrust vectoring(and its not a bad looking piece either, would fly anywhere) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlmoNtcyhYThe good news if a Rusky pulls that flat crap spinning stuff low enough we can take them out with a bolt action rifle. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:36:23 PM EDT
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Do they have the fuel and spare parts and the maintainers to keep them flying?
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:36:24 PM EDT
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Doesn't the Su-35 also require 4x the maintenance hours?
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:40:20 PM EDT
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LINK 16 or go home.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:47:30 PM EDT
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Lol. SU-35 is badass tho.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:48:47 PM EDT
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Why do US aircraft shy away from IRST capability? It seems so simple and logical...even if it is redundant. Its passive...so why not?
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:49:01 PM EDT
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Go home Ivan, you're drunk.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:53:12 PM EDT
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SU35? .....
I didn't see it....did you see it....No? ...Me neither. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:00:55 PM EDT
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Well the F-22 holds a key edge over the Su-35.
American pilots 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:02:22 PM EDT
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Why do US aircraft shy away from IRST capability? It seems so simple and logical...even if it is redundant. Its passive...so why not? They had it in the early 60s,that's what the bumps are in front of the windscreens on F-101Bs and F-8Es. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:07:37 PM EDT
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No edge anywhere when ground based missile platforms make jets obsolete.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:13:17 PM EDT
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How do Su-35 pilots use a HOTAS setup when they have to keep a hand on the ejection handle?
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:13:40 PM EDT
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Why do US aircraft shy away from IRST capability? It seems so simple and logical...even if it is redundant. Its passive...so why not? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:15:17 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:19:12 PM EDT
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No edge anywhere when ground based missile platforms make jets obsolete. They do? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:20:56 PM EDT
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Why do US aircraft shy away from IRST capability? It seems so simple and logical...even if it is redundant. Its passive...so why not? Because it's shit. It doesn't give a firing solution, because you get only bearing, no velocity or direction. It's range is highly dependent on atmospheric conditions. It fucks up your RCS unless you spend a shitload making it "stealth". It's blocked by the airframe because only an idiot would replace your radar with it entirely. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:23:11 PM EDT
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Why can't we do this? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/Awacs3-onw-127201.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/635920764844302418-B21-hires-127202.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/AIM-120C-5-127203.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50575/92-127204.JPG Do we REALLY need dogfighters any more? Google "B-1R" |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:24:08 PM EDT
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The SU-27 is still a fairly capable front line fighter, but it wasn't designed to compete with the F35, it was intended to counter the F15, and in the 80s and early 90s it did that pretty good. I would consider the SU-27 superior to the Mirage, Eurofighter, and GDs favorite Gripen, however I'm just a GenAv pilot, so take that FWIW. SU35M does put on a helluva flight demo, and IMHO, they have us beat in thrust vectoring(and its not a bad looking piece either, would fly anywhere) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlmoNtcyhY
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Posted: 1/16/2017 9:24:45 PM EDT
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The SU-27 is still a fairly capable front line fighter, but it wasn't designed to compete with the F35, it was intended to counter the F15, and in the 80s and early 90s it did that pretty good. I would consider the SU-27 superior to the Mirage, Eurofighter, and GDs favorite Gripen, however I'm just a GenAv pilot, so take that FWIW. SU35M does put on a helluva flight demo, and IMHO, they have us beat in thrust vectoring(and its not a bad looking piece either, would fly anywhere) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlmoNtcyhY |
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