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Posted: 1/16/2017 2:40:04 PM EDT
Just saw this on Facebook.

22 nosler

It should be interesting to see how the ballistics will look.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 2:48:10 PM EDT
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That's pretty neat...just a mag and barrel swap from a standard AR.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 2:49:16 PM EDT
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Good luck buying ammo
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 2:50:36 PM EDT
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great just what i need, another wildcat
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This

Probably a great varmint bolt cartridge. Especially for reloaders.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 2:58:39 PM EDT
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Meh. If I'm getting new mags I'm just going 6.5G.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:05:16 PM EDT
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Hmmm, i wonder what the case capacity is.
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They say 25% more than .223.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:07:15 PM EDT
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Great, another free hat coming up at the NRA show.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:11:13 PM EDT
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awesome...if it works out should be a snappy little varmint round.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:20:51 PM EDT
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what if you already have 6.8SPC mags?


edit:  are people really only getting 2500fps with 77grain bullets out of  5.56?  i thought people were already getting around 2900fps?  and i can already do 3300 with 50 grain vmax out of a .223 bolt gun.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:23:00 PM EDT
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I am intrigued.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:36:54 PM EDT
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what if you already have 6.8SPC mags?


edit:  are people really only getting 2500fps with 77grain bullets out of  5.56?  i thought people were already getting around 2900fps?  and i can already do 3300 with 50 grain vmax out of a .223 bolt gun.
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I haven't done much shooting with 75/77gr projectiles but I think I was around that 2500 mark. Not enough powder to get shit moving.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:48:06 PM EDT
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How underwhelming!
Needs to be more like the 22ar. A short fat case that lets you shoot a 80g bullet out of a mag at over 3000 fps.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:53:42 PM EDT
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22 Beast

You can move 77-82 grains @ 2800-3000 fps
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:56:09 PM EDT
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I have a 22-250, what the hell do I need this for?
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:57:26 PM EDT
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As badass as that is, that's gotta be a barrel burner
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:59:25 PM EDT
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That's what I'm wondering
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 4:01:46 PM EDT
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As badass as that is, that's gotta be a barrel burner
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You can move 77-82 grains @ 2800-3000 fps



As badass as that is, that's gotta be a barrel burner


thats the $24 question
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 4:02:18 PM EDT
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I have a 22-250, what the hell do I need this for?


That's what I'm wondering


Probably for those who do not have a 22-250 AR upper?
and a boat load of 6.8 PRI mags
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 4:29:19 PM EDT
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Neat. Basically a 6mm Hagar (a wildcat derived from the .30 Rem., like 6.8 SPC) necked down to .22cal and given a rebated case rim.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 4:32:38 PM EDT
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Probably for those who do not have a 22-250 AR upper?
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That's what I'm wondering


Probably for those who do not have a 22-250 AR upper?


I think it's an answer to a question very few people are asking. Most people who want .22-250 performance are just going to get a bolt action .22-250 because they can get more accuracy for the buck with the bolt gun.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 4:52:17 PM EDT
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I'll stick with my Swift     
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 5:01:55 PM EDT
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Looks to be a 6.8 SPC case necked down to .22.    There have been wildcats already using this setup.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 6:48:32 PM EDT
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This.  GTFO with more wildcats.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 6:58:11 PM EDT
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.300 blackout started as a wildcat...
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 7:18:22 PM EDT
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what if you already have 6.8SPC mags?


edit:  are people really only getting 2500fps with 77grain bullets out of  5.56?  i thought people were already getting around 2900fps?  and i can already do 3300 with 50 grain vmax out of a .223 bolt gun.
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My load for 223/5.56 is a 75 grain bullet running at 2850FPS.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 7:21:21 PM EDT
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If this works out, I'd consider it for the next Highpower Match Rifle I build.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 7:24:25 PM EDT
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What case are they using for this since it says you can use your existing 5.56/223 BCG?
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A derivative of the .30 Rem./6.8 SPC/6mm Hagar case, with a rebated rim. Nosler did buy SSA, which was one of the primary producers of 6.8SPC brass.

Mike.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 8:31:37 PM EDT
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what if you already have 6.8SPC mags?


edit:  are people really only getting 2500fps with 77grain bullets out of  5.56?  i thought people were already getting around 2900fps?  and i can already do 3300 with 50 grain vmax out of a .223 bolt gun.
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I get 2800, but to be able to do better than that, stay inside a traditional AR platform rifle,  and get more than a couple firings out of brass is mildly tempting.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 8:32:41 PM EDT
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id rather see a 6.5 PPC with a 223 sized rim.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 8:33:50 PM EDT
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A derivative of the .30 Rem./6.8 SPC/6mm Hagar case, with a rebated rim. Nosler did buy SSA, which was one of the primary producers of 6.8SPC brass.

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So if they are using the 556 rim on it and it's the 6.8 case - could they make a 6.8/6.5 (rename it obviously) to take 556 bolts and give the same performance?
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 8:45:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2017 8:56:09 PM EDT
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Midway has 22 Nosler barrels on sale at this moment.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 9:02:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2017 9:02:35 PM EDT
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I have a bolt gun in 22-6mm.  77gr bullets to 3,450 fps and 70gr TSX to 3,650.  Neat gun BUT LLLOOOUUUUDDD!!!!

Makes a coyote pop like a prarie dog

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Link Posted: 1/16/2017 9:11:24 PM EDT
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I have a bolt gun in 22-6mm.  77gr bullets to 3,450 fps and 70gr TSX to 3,650.  Neat gun BUT LLLOOOUUUUDDD!!!!

Makes a coyote pop like a prarie dog

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6mm ?   as in a 7x57 based cartridge ?
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 9:12:31 PM EDT
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Yea 22 pdk is pretty much that and has been around for a while.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 4:27:30 AM EDT
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Yep.

The new Hornady reloading manual has data on the 22-6mm...80 grain ELD at 3400 fps will shoot really flat, and eat barrels pretty quickly too.

I want one, naturally.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 6:17:37 AM EDT
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Same reason you need a Grendel..or not. Fits a standard AR "frame".


With the added case capacity it means I can get 2750fps with a 90gr smk out of my 18" instead of 2600fps. That gives me an extra 100yds of supersonic range and 11" fewer inches of wind drift @1k.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 6:24:38 AM EDT
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Yep.

The new Hornady reloading manual has data on the 22-6mm...80 grain ELD at 3400 fps will shoot really flat, and eat barrels pretty quickly too.

I want one, naturally.
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That has about 20% more case capacity than my Swift.    F_K yea I am interested
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 10:47:40 AM EDT
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That has about 20% more case capacity than my Swift.    F_K yea I am interested
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...and you still have MOAR case capacity if you go the Ackley Improved route.

And I would, because why the hell not?
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 12:30:33 PM EDT
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This.  GTFO with more wildcats.


Some wildcats that became popular and are still widely available in factory loads:

.22 Hornet
.22-250 Rem
.25-06 Rem
.257 Roberts
.35 Whelen

One might even make the argument that most cartridges available today were at one time wildcats.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 12:40:56 PM EDT
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It's always good to see ballistic experimentation and progress.

But even Nosler doesn't say what the role for this cartridge is... is it a varmint hunting thing?  Do you need 70gr+ bullets to do that sort of thing?  Serious question, I have no idea.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 12:48:55 PM EDT
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It started as .300 Fireball, then .300 Whisper.

It's been around for awhile.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 12:53:23 PM EDT
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It started as .300 Fireball, then .300 Whisper.

It's been around for awhile.
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Around?  Like on the shelves at Walmart and Cabelas?
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Around?  Like on the shelves at Walmart and Cabelas?
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It started as .300 Fireball, then .300 Whisper.

It's been around for awhile.

Around?  Like on the shelves at Walmart and Cabelas?


No, as a wildcat.

The very point he was making.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 1:14:43 PM EDT
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Just saw this on Facebook.

22 nosler

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I don't see this doing anything for me a .223 wont do for likely 50% cheaper.  if I needed something small and peppy id buy a .17hmr or a .204 ruger. or maybe a 22-250. all of which are likely cheaper due to components being out for at least a decade ( .204), or many decades.. ( 22-250/.223)
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I don't see this doing anything for me a .223 wont do for likely 50% cheaper.  if I needed something small and peppy id buy a .17hmr or a .204 ruger.
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For some reason I cannot shake the idea of a .17Rem AR from my mind.... one of these days.
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