Those front pouches look familiar.

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something like this would be awesome!
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For us old guys.

WOW

My first one was just a cheap china girl kit I got off ebay that I bolted to an old Diamond Back mountain bike.  So I used the OEM crank set and the standard "rag joint" sprocket mount on the left rear.  I don't know what type of crank set those dedicated frames use.  If you're going to run gears, you should look at the shifter kit from Sick Bike Parts.


I also built one using a 50cc Huasheng 4-stroke and rear friction drive from That's Dax that worked surprisingly well.  Basically it's like having a little weed whacker motor sitting on your rear rack, and when you want to go you just lower the bracket so the roller contacts the rear tire and you're off!  (Note about Dax - His web page looks funky.  That's because the entire business is just one guy named Duane who does all the work.  The phone number he lists on the page is his personal number, which he answers.  You can call him up and ask him questions.  I've bought hundreds of dollars of stuff from him and never had a problem.  Duane is a good guy.)

My next project is a Manhattan Adult Trike with a Sick Bike shifter kit and Huasheng motor.




The standard metal bicycle fenders are the killers.  It wasn't me, but I've read other stories on the MB boards about fender failures.  Here's one -

Another Fender Crash Story  An excerpt:



So mount fenders at your own risk!

OK. Card board and rubber bands may be safer than buying fenders. I already am wearing a brace on my right knee for a torn PCL that cant be repaired. I dont want any more braces.


Transfer money for fenders and the Shimano crankset to buy the shifter kit that has the bottom crank kit in it.

Just joined MBcom

Misspelled my login name

The pictures of the damage was pretty interesting to look at.



Even a bike dealer wont sell or install on a MB.

I rode one around for an entire summer, just because.  Groceries, trips to the hardware store, range, etc.



Was a hoot.

Just when I thought I was bad.

I had a gallon of OJ and milk, two 24 pack water on the front of the bike, Both saddle bags with eggs bacon, top of the rear rack had assorted groceries with bread. Steering was down right dangerous. The bike wanted to tip over.

But really. Lumber. Thats just nuts.

Just been looking at a new helmet with a shield. Lots to choose from. This may take a while.

Amazon.  Search for cloth saddle bags.  I think they were $20.

This would be nice for my mountain bike. It would make it easier to store in the garage or park at the store bike rack.
It would most likely be dangerous with a motorize bicycle of any kind.

Folding handle bar. $48

Been looking at the prices of the shifter kits.

WOW!! While they do have parts needed to nuild a standard unit without the shifter it does get pricey. But it allows the bike to have more control over the engine and is better in the long run. Will have to wait to get that and the engine when I get my refund.

On the other hand. Since I have a frame and a front fork on the way I have ordered Shimano MF-TZ3 Tourney Freewheel (15-34 Mega 7 ) and a Shimano Rear Derailleur RD-TX55. From the looks of it The shifter kit prevents you from having the front derailleur therefore only having a 7 speed rather than a 21 speed bike.

Also I could not find a real adult banana seat set. Meaning old style BMX banana set made for kids. I would hate to be going down the road a have cheap mounts break on me. I was going o use a motor cycle seat and bracket but that got expensive real quick and that is before making a support bracket. Cost got well over $100. I was looking for the seat here. But its a moped seat with a fabricated mounting system. I dont want spend lots of time and money on a seat. Besides. The width on the front of that seat would make it very hard to pedal.
BTW. Those are 26x3 inch fat tires.


So I found I found this under cruiser bikes on Ebay. The seat, seat pouch, post and saddle bags cost less than $100 on Ebay, The seat on Amazon goes for $120 and the little seat pouch is $26. Didnt find the saddle bags.

So. Would you buy the following?

Sorry. Did not include pictures of optional motorcycle seat .
If I do go all the way and buy this seat I would have a rear mounting bracket mounted to the upper brake mounts on the frame.
I may still go this way but I need the frame to figure this out. I have a temporary bicycle seat and post until everything is running ok mechanically.

Motorcycle Solo seat base plate with 3 inch spring. The front would be anchored to the seat post then the rear o the brake post on the frame.


Large Harley Davidson Chopper Solo Brown Vinyl 17 wide 16 long this seat is narrow in the front . this will make it easier to pedal with less friction to my thighs. Cant be any worst than those banana seats.

The motor cycle bags that I was looking at


6 deep 11 high 18 long (on the bottom) I wont order any until the drive train is all mounted along with a rear rack/


Optional slightly smaller found by a friend. He also recommend a trailer. Jolly Joker.

Found this video of a Shyjawk with a shufter kit.

Holy crap!!  55 MPH.

Right off the bat you're going to need better brakes than just the rear coaster brake. Take a good look at original Whizzers to get ideas.

I have built a few choppers back in the 70's and early 80's...

I have watched quite a few videos in the paste 3 days. I found that these guys. Sinister Custom Cycle, Bike Berry,  and Houstan Motorized have lots of info, and how to in their videos.

I am starting to lean towards the 4 stroke motors.

Yes. The are bigger, heavier, and not as fast. But the ideas a cleaner fuel and having a oil reservoir for the motor is better for the motor. Also. You cant get special colors for the 4 stroke covers.

While the 2 strokes do power the lights, I cant find any info if the 4 stroke also do generate a 12 volt output.
I have looked at motors that are internally (Huasheng )belt drive. Motors that have a single chain on the inside are made cheaply. The Flying Horse has a double chain.

I dont know what the Petrol has for a drive in the transmission, But the flying horse a about the same in price.

Anyway. What ever engine that I get it is to dangerous to use the drive sprocket in the kits since you can destroy your spokes using it. There fore you need to buy another drive sprocket and a special clamp hub mount to not damage the sprocket. cost for the two $90 to 100. Its a better and safer investment.

Time to hit the sack. I have been sick all weekend with the flu. I need to work tomorrow.

Holy fucking shit.  If you are going to go through all these gyrations to get a motor, "shifter kit", gear set, huge saddlebags, heavy seat, more bags, special bars, lights, handlebar streamers, a little dinging bell, etc, just get a fucking REAL motorcycle for fucks sake.

Only thing missing in all these motorized bicycle bullshit photos is a skinny jeans wearing bearded hipster with a Starbucks in his manicured fingers.

I hate Starbucks.

I'm the dirty jean type slob.

Some people say that I invented the plumbers cleavage but I'm not that old.

I was asked why I was building this. I responded by saying that this is to be my emergency transportation when I need to get parts for my truck. I figure on keeping it next to the spare tire.

OK. I broke down and ordered the Wheel set on Amazon. I wont give the location on Amazon since there are only 6 sets left and others that are I know that are interested a chance to buy. They started to sell fast. With spring just around the corner these could disappear fast. Other sites are selling the same wheels without tires for up to $250 a set.

Oh. BTW. They take 7 to 10 speed hub sets. If I cant have a front derailleur I can at least have some rear gears to ride with. So I ordered a 10 speed cassette and rear derailleur.There is a possibility that I can still have the front derailleur with a 3 sprocket set with the 4 stroke set up. Two stoke without the shifter set is a definite yes possibility. Bottom bracket set shafts can be order up to 10 inches long for the 2 or 4 stroke engine shifter setups that I saw in the videos. If so. That would give it a 30 speed bike with a gas engine. I going to flip the 7 Speed set that I bought to someone else at cost.

Sifters for the derailleurs are on hold until I decide which of the three candidates that I choose for the handler bars. Height and arm length is the issue here. I maybe only 5 ft 8 inch in height but I have long arms. Example. I have a re-curve Bow. I draw 32 inch arrows. I bought it from a former Mr. NH body builder he could only draw 28" arrows with his arms. He is 6 ft 2 inch.

OK. I have ape arms and frog type flippers for feet, and Canadian born. Neanderthals off have it better than me.

My BCA Mountain bike handle bars feel too close to me. I can purchase longer stems to move it further away. Ordering a longer stem for my BCA could be in the future.


Some want to build one with the Dummy tank ones for $69 but with no motor as a cruiser bike. These guys really do a great job painting there noisy cars. It will become a show bike or canvas piece that they can flip at flea markets. Even if its just the frame.
There are plenty of donor bikes for them out there to build one cheap.  

You can find them if you look.  I have a Huasheng 144F (53cc) with a lighting coil that I found on ebay a few years ago.  Basically it's just a coil and you get AC out, so you need a rectifier/regulator off a moped to get 12VDC.  That's the motor I'm planning on mounting in the trike.

I built and rode an E-Bike all throughout grad school and my first year of work.

9-C hub motor, custom built motor controller, Cycle Analyst heads up display and LiPo batteries.

It was/is a hoot. 45 MPH top speed with almost zero noise. It really freaked people out.

I'd look here if you're really interested in E-Bikes.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/#start_here

Thanks

The rectifier looks like the one on my tractors Kohler 25 HP motor

Also for those winter crazy people
I;ll keep this one out of the snow. Already wiped out with the BCA on ice.
Convert your bike into a half track

My friend wants to convert his Cannondale to have a front e-bike wheel.
Its the next best thing to two wheel drive in the woods.

A tweeker is gonna steal it,they love those things.

The hub motor is fun. I have even seen dual hub motor setups. The issue with two is syncing them up to deliver equal amounts of power.

Just got an email from Bike Berry/

There 4 stroke does put out 12 volts but it has a limited output when it come to lights by itself/ I only want it for charging sing I will have a battery on board somewhere on the bike. LED lighting should help for a lower draw on the system.

I dont plan to ride all night. Just running lights during the daytime.

I want a Motoped. It uses a 49cc pit bike motor.

I have a friend who built an electric bike.  It is stupid fast, ~35+ mph, and he is a BFF.  He has these big fatass tires on it, lots of rolling resistance.  It's an impressive build.

I kinda would like a Ruckus. Esp for winter.

I like the Motoped drive system. The bike is a bit on the high side.
I like the Rotopax gas can. They are pricey and the mounts are separate.

ETA

Found out that these are starting at $2999. Bike Berrie was selling some at $3999 and are sold out.

Must be ARFCOMERS buying them out.

Read and question before you buy. Otherwise you get what you paid for. Lower price could mean an older model.

Just got the frame today. Silver. Real solid lite frame. Meaning not polished but sanded aluminum only. OK. Thats what I expected. Clean and ready for paint. That should hold on to the paint. I was thinking of painting it blue and white or red and white. I like to know how that guy made a wood grain look on his.

Before painting I need to test for leaks in the tank. It would be a waste of time to paint it now until I am sure.

Seems to be more than one model/style and manufacturers with the 2.4L and 3.7L's.

This one does not have a bracket for the disk caliper. You have to buy an adapter for since it is a bike for a single bracket brake rim. You know pedal backwards. But it does have the mounts for Cruiser and MTB style brakes. Should have read the description on the one. Other models have the caliper mounts. I ordered the rear brake conversion bracket for $20

Even though the description the wheel clearance on most of these being sold 5 1/2 inches. They neglected to state whether that is at the axle or tire clearance, some are saying wheel rather than axle only leaving it open on tire width. . This one did not have it. Looks like it is made for no bigger than 26x2.15 max. The 26x3 wheels set tires that I ordered wont get past the tabs the brake mounts. Again. Loos like different manufacturer. It could be why Bike Berrie sell only the 26x1.95 on there complete bikes.
So far
Frame $130 cheap deal
Brake caliper conversion mount $20

Looks like the $159 Fat Tires wont fit this frame. But they will fit the triple tree fork.  They should both be in tomorrow or Saturday .
The description of the 26x3 Duro tires say they can mount on a 1.75 wide rim. This rim is designed for fat tire. It has no description of the actual rim width. If it does squeeze through the brake mounts it will only have an 1/8 leeway on both sides f the tire. Some of these fat tires are actually metric in size and under in SAE width description. I may just need to put the 2.5 inch wide tires and call it a day.

Its like my MTB tires. My new aggressive tires are more wider than my old hybrid threads.

Some of these cost as much as a used dual sport.   I want to get my hands on one though.

IIRC: those size motors don't produce great trq and would be better served as a hybrid charger system for electric drive.

Generally motorized bikes don't use a rear disk brake because by far the most common configuration is with the engine drive sprocket on the left.  So unless you pop for an expensive Sick Bike Parts shifter kit, you pretty much have to use clinchers on the rear.

I'm worried that the OP's project is getting overly complicated.  I've seen lots of these that get bogged down with details and expense and never get finished.  I've seen new people get so tied up trying to change the spark timing on the motor or swapping carbs and pipes that they never get around to actually riding it.

Personally my advice for anyone who wants to try out motorized bicycles is pick up a cheap 2-stroke motor kit like this, drag that old, unused bicycle out of the garage and bolt it on.  You'll learn a whole lot about motorized bikes  - what works, what doesn't, what to do, what not to do, how to fix them, keep them running, set up, etc.   And if you decide that maybe it's not for you, then you're only out $100 and you can turn your junk pile project back into a regular bicycle.

Seriously, throwing something together cheap and riding it is the best education in motorized bicycles you'll ever get.  Don't over think it.

Came here to post this.

If it came with a 100+cc motor and was 1K cheaper I would be in.   6K for that is a bit much.