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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:40:09 PM EDT
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I can only imagine how you'd feel if Max got upset with Vettel and decided to give him a "love tap." It doesn't matter how hard it was, it was obviously intentional and done while there was a safety car when drivers are supposed to slow down and watch for potential dangers on the track, not create more danger. I already said I think Hamilton should've been penalized. I wouldn't mind seeing both of them suspended for a race for fucking around behind the safety car. They were at 40kmh for fuck sake, and there was nothing on that straight... Not even the safety car anymore... Yes it was stupid but it wasn't dangerous at all. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 4:33:35 PM EDT
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Seb is on the shit list for the previous infraction and telling Charlie to fuck off on the radio.
IIRC, he also has the most points on his license this year. A one race suspension is in the cards and would be in line with previous sanctions over the years, unfortunately. Only thing that saves him (or seals his fate) is political pressure from Liberty wanting a good show (championship) in their first year. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 5:17:57 PM EDT
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Seb is on the shit list for the previous infraction and telling Charlie to fuck off on the radio. IIRC, he also has the most points on his license this year. A one race suspension is in the cards and would be in line with previous sanctions over the years, unfortunately. Only thing that saves him (or seals his fate) is political pressure from Liberty wanting a good show (championship) in their first year. Well except for insulting that asshat of Charlie whiting... but hey, when you are allowed everything, why would you... 
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Posted: 6/28/2017 6:10:52 PM EDT
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"Let's just see what's going on in the F1 thread today. Oh, Shung is still going on about Vettel hitting Hamilton..."
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Posted: 6/28/2017 6:19:06 PM EDT
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"Let's just see what's going on in the F1 thread today. Oh, Shung is still going on about Vettel hitting Hamilton..." http://i.imgur.com/XujHL.gif |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 7:16:31 PM EDT
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Really guys, with the 'Maxipad' shit still? This is the Formula 1 thread, can you not keep it even remotely professional? It's for fans to discuss Formula 1, not for representing all Formula 1 fans as douche bags.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 7:30:30 PM EDT
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"Let's just see what's going on in the F1 thread today. Oh, Shung is still going on about Vettel hitting Hamilton..." [url] Or. Did you know that McLaren has completed more race laps this year than Red Bull has? |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 9:30:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/28/2017 11:42:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryEmbed, and wait for talk of a HAM conspiracy.
 Hamilton And Vettel''s Clash Examined | 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 11:46:18 PM EDT
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Read this about the Honda engines instead Or. Did you know that McLaren has completed more race laps this year than Red Bull has? I did know about the laps, but hadn't seen the article. Good read, but I think it's silly that it hints McLaren is to blame at the end. 3 years uncompetitive is not McLaren's fault. They have the chassis and probably the best driver, it's Honda that's not delivering. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 1:09:34 AM EDT
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"Let's just see what's going on in the F1 thread today. Oh, Shung is still going on about Vettel hitting Hamilton..." http://i.imgur.com/XujHL.gif |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 1:11:00 AM EDT
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Really guys, with the 'Maxipad' shit still? This is the Formula 1 thread, can you not keep it even remotely professional? It's for fans to discuss Formula 1, not for representing all Formula 1 fans as douche bags. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 8:44:51 AM EDT
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Really guys, with the 'Maxipad' shit still? This is the Formula 1 thread, can you not keep it even remotely professional? It's for fans to discuss Formula 1, not for representing all Formula 1 fans as douche bags. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 8:46:48 AM EDT
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Ooooo, McLaren Distraction! I did know about the laps, but hadn't seen the article. Good read, but I think it's silly that it hints McLaren is to blame at the end. 3 years uncompetitive is not McLaren's fault. They have the chassis and probably the best driver, it's Honda that's not delivering. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 9:14:44 AM EDT
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I like Alonso. But your drum beating of him being the best driver is pointless and completely subjective. He must be happy now, he is not anymore ;) |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 9:49:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryAnything MERC, HAM and BOT is fake news. The Brits even joke about it.
https://youtu.be/-1k2rOgOIOk F1 is ISIS. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:09:38 AM EDT
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Hey, he left Ferrari cause he was bored being 2nd ! He must be happy now, he is not anymore ;) 
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:24:10 AM EDT
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You guys make it really hard for me to root for Vettel.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 1:23:51 PM EDT
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You guys make it really hard for me to root for Vettel. IMHO, both drivers should have been given a 10-20 second drive through penalty and license points. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 2:20:01 PM EDT
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I'm not really even a Vettel fan. I'm just sick of the FIA gargling Mercedes/Hamilton semen. IMHO, both drivers should have been given a 10-20 second drive through penalty and license points. As discussed already the gargling of Hamilton has been happening since 2007. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 4:12:20 PM EDT
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I like Alonso. But your drum beating of him being the best driver is pointless and completely subjective. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ooooo, McLaren Distraction! I did know about the laps, but hadn't seen the article. Good read, but I think it's silly that it hints McLaren is to blame at the end. 3 years uncompetitive is not McLaren's fault. They have the chassis and probably the best driver, it's Honda that's not delivering. I didn't think it was disputed that with all things being equal Alonso is considered one of the best drivers. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 5:24:43 PM EDT
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My drum beating? I hardly mention it at all. I didn't think it was disputed that with all things being equal Alonso is considered one of the best drivers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ooooo, McLaren Distraction! I did know about the laps, but hadn't seen the article. Good read, but I think it's silly that it hints McLaren is to blame at the end. 3 years uncompetitive is not McLaren's fault. They have the chassis and probably the best driver, it's Honda that's not delivering. I didn't think it was disputed that with all things being equal Alonso is considered one of the best drivers. I hate Alonso, but I respect him. And I'm not a fucking child, so I won't make some retarded nickname for him. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 5:35:43 PM EDT
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Honestly Alonso has done really anything retarded enough to deserve a nickname, except be the ultimate Honda troll.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 5:37:20 PM EDT
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Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, and Ricciardo are undisputed greats. Verstappen is great, although disputed. I hate Alonso, but I respect him. And I'm not a fucking child, so I won't make some retarded nickname for him.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 5:38:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:21:49 PM EDT
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My drum beating? I hardly mention it at all. I didn't think it was disputed that with all things being equal Alonso is considered one of the best drivers. Alonso is a bit of a diva at times... ok, most of the time, but he is a hell of a driver. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 8:01:28 AM EDT
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Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, and Ricciardo are undisputed greats. Verstappen is great, although disputed. I hate Alonso, but I respect him. And I'm not a fucking child, so I won't make some retarded nickname for him. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 8:24:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2017 9:50:08 AM EDT
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My drum beating? I hardly mention it at all. I didn't think it was disputed that with all things being equal Alonso is considered one of the best drivers. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:10:32 AM EDT
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You didn't say "ONE of the best drivers". You said "probably THE best driver". (Caps added for emphasis.) There's a YUGE difference between those statements. Had you said "one of the best drivers" I would have never even said anything about it... because I would have completely agreed. Alonso certainly is one of the best drivers on the paddock. But THE best driver? Very disputable.
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:18:45 AM EDT
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Every time I've clicked on this thread since Baku I've thought "hmm, I wonder what is new in the world of F1"
Only to see that y'all are still arguing
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:36:46 AM EDT
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You guys sure are wound up tight. He probably is the best driver, but that's not even what his point was.
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Posted: 6/30/2017 11:31:50 AM EDT
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I'm not wound up about it. But considering his lack of production for the past decade ("bad" cars/teams or not)... it raised an eyebrow to see him anointed as "the best driver". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You guys sure are wound up tight. He probably is the best driver, but that's not even what his point was. I should go ahead and add that while I respect Alonso's driving abilities and I'm a McLaren fan he's never been my favorite driver and I almost went as far as completely disliking him in his Ferrari days. I'm sure you could find previous threads from seasons past where I called him names. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 12:51:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote History"Perhaps my greatest satisfaction is the Formula 1 team’s outstanding racing safety record... |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 12:56:40 PM EDT
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Kinda missing the point of running a Formula 1 team, there, Ronnie. Quote HistoryQuoted:
"Perhaps my greatest satisfaction is the Formula 1 team’s outstanding racing safety record...
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:13:27 PM EDT
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Vettel is the darker colored line. FIA's conclusion is correct and Shung should see an anger management specialist. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:16:44 PM EDT
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Velocity trace wouldn't show Hamilton's sudden speed reduction because the moment HAM downshifted, hit the brakes or whatever, HAM's car was instantly accelerated to the speed of the Ferrari...hence the collision.
HAM still sucks and the trace proves nothing. Next. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 3:42:31 PM EDT
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 Time Machine: Driving the 1969 McLaren M9A Came across this on SpeedHunters this morning and thought it was pretty damn cool - doubly so given Ron Dennis' recent exit/removal/divorce from McLaren. Derek Bell driving a 1969 McLaren 4wd prototype at Silverstone. Crank your volume, that Cosworth is GLORIOUS! |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:13:55 PM EDT
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"Let's just see what's going on in the F1 thread today. Oh, Shung is still going on about Vettel hitting Hamilton..." http://i.imgur.com/XujHL.gif |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:21:31 PM EDT
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F1 as a series and a business - cannot buy such excellent controversy-generated publicity.
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:31:48 PM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDgVSGWV0AAFzAF.jpg Vettel is the darker colored line. FIA's conclusion is correct and Shung should see an anger management specialist. there is nothing 'steady' in hamilton deceleration. Everybody saw what happened.... even your BS chart shows hamilton decelerrating instead of acceleration after passiing the apex... for fuck sake if you zoom in it even shows hamilton slightly pushing the throttle (stop in deceleration) and releasing it just before the impact ! 
btw, can you source this awfully low resolution telemetry chart ? |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:52:12 PM EDT
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I found a clearer view
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:53:40 PM EDT
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I don't have the power to anoint anybody as anything. I'm sorry if there was confusion in the way I typed it. In saying "probably" I wasn't trying to declare him as such, just put him in there as a possible candidate. If this is going to lead to confusion from here on out I can just edit the post. I should go ahead and add that while I respect Alonso's driving abilities and I'm a McLaren fan he's never been my favorite driver and I almost went as far as completely disliking him in his Ferrari days. I'm sure you could find previous threads from seasons past where I called him names. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 7:13:36 PM EDT
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There is a Williams documentary coming out soon.
It does, however, look suspiciously like a puff piece for Claire. We shall see. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 9:35:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2017 1:04:30 AM EDT
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Roger. I like Alonso and think that he's tried to do more with less than just about anybody. I truly feel for the guy wasting away at shitty teams. The closest that I would come to an opinion on the best driver(s) would be to list the top three. Alonso, Seb, and Ham would be those three in my worthless opinion. There are a few guys who are right under there, but who either haven't fully proven themselves yet or who just peaked slightly below those guys. Kimi, Ricciardo, Bottas, Massa, Button (when he was around) and a few others would be in that group. Max may end-up being this generation's Schumacher, but he's got a LOT of maturing to do before I'm ready to declare him to be the next king. Vettel and Hamilton have proven themselves -- dominant teams or not. We're left to wonder what could have been with Alonso, Kimi and Button... but I don't doubt that had they been in the right car at the right time, they could have racked up a few more championships each. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't have the power to anoint anybody as anything. I'm sorry if there was confusion in the way I typed it. In saying "probably" I wasn't trying to declare him as such, just put him in there as a possible candidate. If this is going to lead to confusion from here on out I can just edit the post. I should go ahead and add that while I respect Alonso's driving abilities and I'm a McLaren fan he's never been my favorite driver and I almost went as far as completely disliking him in his Ferrari days. I'm sure you could find previous threads from seasons past where I called him names. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 1:36:17 AM EDT
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Hamilton: "If I had had any ill intent in terms of my driving towards him, brake testing, whatever it may be, I still think it's not deserving of that kind of reaction from someone - that person you do have respect for and always showed it on the track."
Source Fuuuuuuuuuuuck you. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 5:33:48 AM EDT
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He is an hypocrite
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:19:24 AM EDT
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There is a Williams documentary coming out soon. It does, however, look suspiciously like a puff piece for Claire. We shall see. 
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:44:28 AM EDT
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Hamilton: "If I had had any ill intent in terms of my driving towards him, brake testing, whatever it may be, I still think it's not deserving of that kind of reaction from someone - that person you do have respect for and always showed it on the track." Source Fuuuuuuuuuuuck you. He's such a worm. |
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