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Posted: 2/25/2017 10:54:34 AM EDT
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Just a heads up... AIM has Wolf 6.5 grendel for $4.79 a box right now I just got a case from SG for less than 250 shipped. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 10:55:42 AM EDT
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What's the sweet spot for Grendel SBR barrel length? Seems like around 12 is the most popular. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:05:04 PM EDT
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Seems like around 12 is the most popular. what is the differences in common loads between 12" and 16" |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:22:53 PM EDT
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what is the differences in common loads between 12" and 16" 4" |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:29:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:34:06 PM EDT
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But that's not important right now. What is important is that i thought I saw a barrel chop test for the Grendel, but can't seem to find it. There's a 6.5CM test out there. I think LRRPB&J52 has some of those comparisons, but he's out freezing his nuts off with the scouts I guess. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 8:08:57 PM EDT
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what is the differences in common loads between 12" and 16" I don't know that, but I know I've seen a guy post pics from his 2 Grendel's on the same day with the same ammo and the velocity difference. I think a 16 and a 10, but I don't remember the details. LRRPF has the picture too I think. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 1:53:30 AM EDT
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Here are some numbers for a 20 and 10.5. They are both 264lbc but still shooting 6.5grendel ammo. 123amax and 123 sst
..............20".....................................10.5" Amax.................SST...........AMAX..............SST 2456.................2470............2127...............2118 2466.................2484............2078..............2125 2465.................2473.............2099..............2158 2475.................2479.............2123...............2142 2477.................2488.............2121...............2131 2466.................2486.............2110 2476.................2490.............2119 2474.................2470.............2089 2481.................2471..............2111 2467.................2503.............2117 |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 2:06:08 AM EDT
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Seems like around 12 is the most popular. what is the differences in common loads between 12" and 16" I was the guy who came up with the 12.5 inch length being the best. Bill did a 10.5, which works well, but I thought a 12.5 inch might make a better "all around" gun. I think it is hard to beat unless you are looking to go really short. I am a bit lazy tonight but here is a quick comparison between 12.5 and 16 inches with Wolf's 100 grain steel case load 12.5 inch...........2,341 16 inch..............2,496 20 inch..............2,600 please keep in mind Wolf's 100 grain steel case load is on the sedate side. Heavy handloads run considerably faster through my 12.5 inch gun. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:09:13 AM EDT
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I was the guy who came up with the 12.5 inch length being the best. Bill did a 10.5, which works well, but I thought a 12.5 inch might make a better "all around" gun. I think it is hard to beat unless you are looking to go really short. I am a bit lazy tonight but here is a quick comparison between 12.5 and 16 inches with Wolf's 100 grain steel case load 12.5 inch...........2,341 16 inch..............2,496 20 inch..............2,600 please keep in mind Wolf's 100 grain steel case load is on the sedate side. Heavy handloads run considerably faster through my 12.5 inch gun. Thank you. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 2:00:36 PM EDT
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Just a friendly reminder, we've got a group buy going on right now
$185 w/shipping 16" mid length 4150cmv(qpq finish) 1:8 5R |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 2:50:38 PM EDT
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Just a friendly reminder, we've got a group buy going on right now $185 w/shipping 16" mid length 4150cmv(qpq finish) 1:8 5R 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 2:58:22 PM EDT
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Had the 16" Grendel out yesterday. A very handy and capable rifle, one of my favorites.
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Posted: 2/26/2017 5:26:41 PM EDT
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Had the 16" Grendel out yesterday. A very handy and capable rifle, one of my favorites. Personally I think an ideal Grendel set would be: 20" SS for really reaching out there 16" hunting, longer range shooting, SD if necessary. A very nice middle ground, If you can only have one get a 16 12.5" eastern hunting, still handy with a can,SD etc. 18 & 22-24 don't do much for me, you can't go wrong with Grendel anything but I feel the above are the best all around lengths. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 5:35:15 PM EDT
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Personally I think an ideal Grendel set would be: 20" SS for really reaching out there 16" hunting, longer range shooting, SD if necessary. A very nice middle ground, If you can only have one get a 16 12.5" eastern hunting, still handy with a can,SD etc. 18 & 22-24 don't do much for me, you can't go wrong with Grendel anything but I feel the above are the best all around lengths. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had the 16" Grendel out yesterday. A very handy and capable rifle, one of my favorites. Personally I think an ideal Grendel set would be: 20" SS for really reaching out there 16" hunting, longer range shooting, SD if necessary. A very nice middle ground, If you can only have one get a 16 12.5" eastern hunting, still handy with a can,SD etc. 18 & 22-24 don't do much for me, you can't go wrong with Grendel anything but I feel the above are the best all around lengths. 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 5:44:48 PM EDT
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Just a friendly reminder, we've got a group buy going on right now $185 w/shipping 16" mid length 4150cmv(qpq finish) 1:8 5R I'm going to have to get in on this one. I've been putting off a Grendel for too long. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 5:48:31 PM EDT
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I'm going to have to get in on this one. I've been putting off a Grendel for too long. Perfect opportunity. Some more inspiration if you need it. 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 5:54:30 PM EDT
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Why isn't 6.5 Grendel popular? natural selection 6.8 SPC is a better hunting choice here... 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 6:00:20 PM EDT
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You're gonna love my SBR build then. Got one of the group buy barrels? |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 6:15:34 PM EDT
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You're gonna love my SBR build then. Got one of the group buy barrels? Yep. Gonna do a cost effective clone of this. 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 6:28:03 PM EDT
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Perfect opportunity. Some more inspiration if you need it. http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww232/Kyle_OA/ModHCAR_zpsmjyk26ho.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm going to have to get in on this one. I've been putting off a Grendel for too long. Perfect opportunity. Some more inspiration if you need it. http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww232/Kyle_OA/ModHCAR_zpsmjyk26ho.jpg Well done! 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 7:11:41 PM EDT
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I'm going to have to get in on this one. I've been putting off a Grendel for too long. Perfect opportunity. Some more inspiration if you need it. http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww232/Kyle_OA/ModHCAR_zpsmjyk26ho.jpg Well done! Thanks! I had aspirations of building a 6.5G Mk12 clone for a long time. I found a great deal on a Lilja 18" with the 319 light under the hand guard profile and had it cut to 16" and profiled for the ops suppressor. It's getting a new stock then it's basically done and on to load development. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 7:18:47 PM EDT
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natural selection 6.8 SPC is a better hunting choice here... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why isn't 6.5 Grendel popular? natural selection 6.8 SPC is a better hunting choice here... The 2nd amendment isn't about hunting 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 7:56:13 PM EDT
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natural selection 6.8 SPC is a better hunting choice here... For hunting I would say the difference is almost non existent. I don't see the purpose of longer than 20 inches with grendal, maybe even longer than 16". Might as well go CM at that point. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 9:11:09 PM EDT
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All this SBR talk, making my head swim
12 inch shooting 129s, good expansion past 400 Yards? Heads explode(mine anyways) my 12.5 6.8 shoots 110 AB to 2250 FPS (handloads) Good barrier load, but that 129 Nosler in game from a 12 inch barrel, Holy S### At some point I'd like a 20 inch Lightweight barrel, and to build a 14.5 inch with a pinned brake just for wolf ammo. My first 18 inch SS barrel burned down at ~8k rounds(shoots 4 MOA plus now) Always aware of heat, P-dogs mainly Melonite from here on out. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 9:19:42 PM EDT
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Just a friendly reminder, we've got a group buy going on right now $185 w/shipping 16" mid length 4150cmv(qpq finish) 1:8 5R This is calling to me. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 9:55:02 PM EDT
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Just a friendly reminder, we've got a group buy going on right now $185 w/shipping 16" mid length 4150cmv(qpq finish) 1:8 5R No bolt, I'm guessing? How long is the buy going to last? BTW, I went 18 based on the advice of a couple of guys who lugged both 14.5 and 20 inch rifles in the sandbox. They told me that the 20's were just a pain in the ass when dealing with vehicle transport. They claimed that they hung up on everything, but just barely caught all the door frames and such. So I got the longest barrel short of that. No idea how accurate their claims were, since I'm an old Cold Warrior, and they didn't give us regular fuckers XM173's, so all I ever got to play with were the full length M16's. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 9:57:43 PM EDT
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No bolt, I'm guessing? How long is the buy going to last? BTW, I went 18 based on the advice of a couple of guys who lugged both 14.5 and 20 inch rifles in the sandbox. They told me that the 20's were just a pain in the ass when dealing with vehicle transport. They claimed that they hung up on everything, but just barely caught all the door frames and such. So I got the longest barrel short of that. No idea how accurate their claims were, since I'm an old Cold Warrior, and they didn't give us regular fuckers XM173's, so all I ever got to play with were the full length M16's. There is also a group buy for a bolt. $55 I think? |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:02:20 PM EDT
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Will 6.5 G function out of a 12.5 inch mid length?
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:22:56 PM EDT
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There is also a group buy for a bolt. $55 I think? huh?!!!!!! Link please!!!!! EDIT: NVM,, found it.....jumped on it! |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:28:20 PM EDT
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The 2nd amendment isn't about hunting Bullshit. You guys who want to throw hunting arms from the sleigh to feed the wolves are simply a different side of the coin from the FUDDs. Please read a Constitution Book and the Heller decision. 
What part of "shall not infringe" is confusing????? |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:40:53 PM EDT
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You're gonna love my SBR build then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had the 16" Grendel out yesterday. A very handy and capable rifle, one of my favorites. Personally I think an ideal Grendel set would be: 20" SS for really reaching out there 16" hunting, longer range shooting, SD if necessary. A very nice middle ground, If you can only have one get a 16 12.5" eastern hunting, still handy with a can,SD etc. 18 & 22-24 don't do much for me, you can't go wrong with Grendel anything but I feel the above are the best all around lengths.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:44:43 PM EDT
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huh?!!!!!! Link please!!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is also a group buy for a bolt. $55 I think? huh?!!!!!! Link please!!!!! Ask and ye shall receive, join up and order away. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:47:23 PM EDT
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No bolt, I'm guessing? How long is the buy going to last? BTW, I went 18 based on the advice of a couple of guys who lugged both 14.5 and 20 inch rifles in the sandbox. They told me that the 20's were just a pain in the ass when dealing with vehicle transport. They claimed that they hung up on everything, but just barely caught all the door frames and such. So I got the longest barrel short of that. No idea how accurate their claims were, since I'm an old Cold Warrior, and they didn't give us regular fuckers XM173's, so all I ever got to play with were the full length M16's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just a friendly reminder, we've got a group buy going on right now $185 w/shipping 16" mid length 4150cmv(qpq finish) 1:8 5R No bolt, I'm guessing? How long is the buy going to last? BTW, I went 18 based on the advice of a couple of guys who lugged both 14.5 and 20 inch rifles in the sandbox. They told me that the 20's were just a pain in the ass when dealing with vehicle transport. They claimed that they hung up on everything, but just barely caught all the door frames and such. So I got the longest barrel short of that. No idea how accurate their claims were, since I'm an old Cold Warrior, and they didn't give us regular fuckers XM173's, so all I ever got to play with were the full length M16's. Whole different kettle of fish ballistics wise. The 20" is somewhat cumbersome, the 18" is nice but not entirely necessary with the Grendel cartridge, the way it is with .223. See my other post for a $55 bolt, retail for comparable is nearly double. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:09:30 PM EDT
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huh?!!!!!! Link please!!!!! EDIT: NVM,, found it.....jumped on it! Okay, and you didn't post the link why now? ETA: NM, somebody else did it. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:11:53 PM EDT
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Bullshit. You guys who want to throw hunting arms from the sleigh to feed the wolves are simply a different side of the coin from the FUDDs. Please read a Constitution Book and the Heller decision.
What part of "shall not infringe" is confusing????? Who's throwing hunting arms from the sleigh? Countering the goofy notion that hunting weapons are the only ones protected doesn't mean that anybody thinks they shouldn't be protected. Put some salve on that butthurt and have a beer. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:12:58 PM EDT
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Well, I finally pulled the trigger to do a Grendel build. I got an Odin Works 18" intermediate length barrel, billet upper receiver, and the Odin Works 02 Lite rail, and Odin Works adjustable gas block. Not put together yet.
I wanted 18" as I would have a Griffin Arm. Recce 7 on the end. Odin Works 18" Intermediate kit. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:16:37 PM EDT
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Who's throwing hunting arms from the sleigh? Countering the goofy notion that hunting weapons are the only ones protected doesn't mean that anybody thinks they shouldn't be protected. Put some salve on that butthurt and have a beer. LOL. Your the guy who thinks the 2nd Amend does not protect hunting arms. What part of "not infringed" is confusing??????? |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:21:05 PM EDT
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LOL. Your the guy who thinks the 2nd Amend does not protect hunting arms. What part of "not infringed" is confusing??????? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who's throwing hunting arms from the sleigh? Countering the goofy notion that hunting weapons are the only ones protected doesn't mean that anybody thinks they shouldn't be protected. Put some salve on that butthurt and have a beer. LOL. Your the guy who thinks the 2nd Amend does not protect hunting arms. What part of "not infringed" is confusing??????? Cmon guys plenty of other places to hash this debate out... |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:25:40 PM EDT
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Yep. Gonna do a cost effective clone of this. What rail is that? |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:33:06 PM EDT
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LOL. Your the guy who thinks the 2nd Amend does not protect hunting arms. What part of "not infringed" is confusing??????? Uhm... what? I just affirmed that I do think they're protected. Are you sure you're replying to the correct post? If not, disregard my suggestion to have a beer. You've already had enough. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:36:00 PM EDT
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Just a friendly reminder, we've got a group buy going on right now $185 w/shipping 16" mid length 4150cmv(qpq finish) 1:8 5R Get thee behind me, Satan! |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:36:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:48:29 PM EDT
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Yep. Gonna do a cost effective clone of this. What rail is that? |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:58:57 PM EDT
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Yep. Gonna do a cost effective clone of this. I have a similar plan too, I'd like the mk13 rail and plan on a ta33 though. I got my wolf ammo, looks like nice stuff. And for the price of steel case 223 ammo, it's gonna be tough to beat. Might start stocking up on it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:33:58 AM EDT
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Bullshit. You guys who want to throw hunting arms from the sleigh to feed the wolves are simply a different side of the coin from the FUDDs. Please read a Constitution Book and the Heller decision.
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The 2nd amendment isn't about hunting Bullshit. You guys who want to throw hunting arms from the sleigh to feed the wolves are simply a different side of the coin from the FUDDs. Please read a Constitution Book and the Heller decision.
What part of "shall not infringe" is confusing????? LOL, thong wound a bit tight? The 2nd isn't about hunting. I love all guns and will fight for them all. Notice that eagle in my profile, do you have one? My beloved Grendel is my favorite deer rifle. I'm looking forward to a dead deer using my soon to be built Grendel SBR, thanks to this thread. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 2:42:41 AM EDT
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LOL, thong wound a bit tight? The 2nd isn't about hunting. I love all guns and will fight for them all. Notice that eagle in my profile, do you have one? My beloved Grendel is my favorite deer rifle. I'm looking forward to a dead deer using my soon to be built Grendel SBR, thanks to this thread. He doesn't need an Eagle on on his profile, he's got a trident tramp stamp. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 3:05:16 AM EDT
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Get thee behind me, Satan! That's the same way I feel, I have a feeling I'll be joining another gun board and building another rifle  .
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Posted: 2/27/2017 4:18:48 PM EDT
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Personally I think an ideal Grendel set would be: 20" SS for really reaching out there 16" hunting, longer range shooting, SD if necessary. A very nice middle ground, If you can only have one get a 16 12.5" eastern hunting, still handy with a can,SD etc. 18 & 22-24 don't do much for me, you can't go wrong with Grendel anything but I feel the above are the best all around lengths. I'm intending on going with an 18 and a 12.5" because I can't afford a 16 and 20 so I'm splitting the difference with the 18 and I really want a 12.5" for things and reasons and brush hunting. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 4:31:53 PM EDT
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Confession...I'm a 6.8 guy, but I have a good friend that would benefit from owning a 6.5. He's not on this board and I'm not very knowledgeable about the who/what and how much of the Grendel world. So, what is currently the best option (in terms of cost and quality) for a fully assembled 6.5 upper with bolt?
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