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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:07:54 PM EDT
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I can't believe it! In on 1. neither can I! In on 3 Had to edit mine to an in on the first 3% of this thread! Still can't believe it. Not a hung jury but a not guilty. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:08:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep; didn't see that coming Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wow. No shit. Now to see how the Feds find a way to screw all involved. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:08:09 PM EDT
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Jury nullification. I expect they'll all start to have mysterious accidents, because we live in a banana republic, and the Feds don't like to be told no.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:09:47 PM EDT
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So can Lavoys family sue for wrongful death? I fucking well would. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:09:54 PM EDT
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Let that be a lesson to everyone. If you care about freedom but duck jury duty you are part of the problem. You should be down at the courthouse knocking down the doors to get onto jury duty.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:11:01 PM EDT
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In before the jury's IRS audits. This |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:11:08 PM EDT
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Liberal heads are exploding and the tears are flowing in all the local media outlet posts. Makes my heart warm
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:11:11 PM EDT
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outstanding
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:11:43 PM EDT
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:12:36 PM EDT
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All defendants found not guilty. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/judge_welcomes_new_juror_direc.html Awesome!! 
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:13:01 PM EDT
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I'm absolutely certain he felt that way. If you choose to go that way, understand the other guy doesn't want to die either. I'll note that a Jury just acquitted the other occupiers, setting them up to use the legal system to sue the Fed over civil rights violations. If you choose to go outside the legal system, be prepared to accept the results. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Shame the one guy got killed. Yep, would be nice if there was at least some accountability on the .gov side.  He'd be alive if he didn't go for the gun in his pocket I bet. You don't think him having his civil rights violated under color of law might have been a factor in his decision to defend himself? I'm absolutely certain he felt that way. If you choose to go that way, understand the other guy doesn't want to die either. I'll note that a Jury just acquitted the other occupiers, setting them up to use the legal system to sue the Fed over civil rights violations. If you choose to go outside the legal system, be prepared to accept the results. Regardless which side of the badge you stand on.. 
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:13:33 PM EDT
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I thought the Feds killed one of the innocent protesters . Are we going to riot ? If so we need to start early I'm going to start by looting the hell out of Cabela's 
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have a link for that event? My google foo is proving insufficient  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The cops attacked the defense attorney, in court, for defending his clients. Where the fuck do I live? What country has this become? Those scumbags have shamed us all. I am horrified that they are my countrymen. Do you have a link for that event? My google foo is proving insufficient An attorney for the leader of the occupation at an Oregon wildlife refuge has been hit by a stun gun multiple times and tackled by federal authorities in a courtroom after his client was acquitted. Ammon Bundy's defense lawyer Marcus Mumford demanded his client be released immediately after Bundy and six others were found not guilty Thursday. Mumford kept yelling at the judge and wouldn't calm down, so U.S. marshals used their stun guns on the attorney and then wrestled him to the floor. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-oregon-standoff-jury-agree-charge-43118933 |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:15:09 PM EDT
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Ha ha, sweet!
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:15:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. I'm weirded out by you posting this. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:15:43 PM EDT
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Well this is interesting. The post analysis will be ...
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:16:47 PM EDT
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He'd be alive if he didn't go for the gun in his pocket I bet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Shame the one guy got killed. Yep, would be nice if there was at least some accountability on the .gov side. He'd be alive if he didn't go for the gun in his pocket I bet. He had several shots fired at him with his hands in the air. That ain't no Michael Brown shit. There is video evidence. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:17:36 PM EDT
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You are right that he got what he wanted You are wrong there about how it turned out. It went better than he could have hoped. Guy is a martyr now. Video proof they were trying to kill him before he made his play.. Killed for doing nothing in particular when you consider the bigger circumstances... He got exactly what he fantasized about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Shame the one guy got killed. Finicum got what he wanted: a shootout with the cops. It just didn't turn out like he'd fantasized. Oh well. You are right that he got what he wanted You are wrong there about how it turned out. It went better than he could have hoped. Guy is a martyr now. Video proof they were trying to kill him before he made his play.. Killed for doing nothing in particular when you consider the bigger circumstances... He got exactly what he fantasized about. All true |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:17:37 PM EDT
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There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. WTF??? Someone had to have hijacked this account. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:17:45 PM EDT
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That dead dudes family is going to go for the bank. I hope they use the money to do great things... maybe work out the whole logistics piece BEFORE their next operation.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:18:12 PM EDT
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Where's all the arfcom shit talkers? I bet the washed up old cop in Austin is passed out by now. He was hitting it pretty early today. 
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:18:19 PM EDT
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No shit. Now to see how the Feds find a way to screw all involved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow. No shit. Now to see how the Feds find a way to screw all involved. spontaneously appearing kiddie porn, shotgun 16th of an inch too short, didn't pay taxes etc, unregistered full autos, child abuse.....I'm sure theyll find something |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:19:48 PM EDT
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There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Wait, wha? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:21:53 PM EDT
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You are right that he got what he wanted You are wrong there about how it turned out. It went better than he could have hoped. Guy is a martyr now. Video proof they were trying to kill him before he made his play.. Killed for doing nothing in particular when you consider the bigger circumstances... He got exactly what he fantasized about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Shame the one guy got killed. Finicum got what he wanted: a shootout with the cops. It just didn't turn out like he'd fantasized. Oh well. You are right that he got what he wanted You are wrong there about how it turned out. It went better than he could have hoped. Guy is a martyr now. Video proof they were trying to kill him before he made his play.. Killed for doing nothing in particular when you consider the bigger circumstances... He got exactly what he fantasized about. Funny, I don't see thousands of people up in arms and protesting about it. Nobody gives a shit except for the useful idiots that the clan conned into rooting for them. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:22:00 PM EDT
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There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. What have you done with the real FedDC? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:22:52 PM EDT
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I am honestly pretty surprised. DU is going nuts
It's a shame Lavoy (sp) had to die, but he would be alive and a free man if he had done what everyone else in the car did. Not try to get into it with the FBI. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:23:11 PM EDT
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I need to read the full story but... to borrow a phrase from TV detective shows, they got off on a technicality? If so, then fine. You still don't barge in and occupy some place that isn't yours. Not a whole lot different from BLM protesters taking over a public university building. Well, if the law isn't going to be enforced equally, I'll take it being unenforced equally as a win. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:23:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Regardless which side of the badge you stand on.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep, would be nice if there was at least some accountability on the .gov side. He'd be alive if he didn't go for the gun in his pocket I bet. You don't think him having his civil rights violated under color of law might have been a factor in his decision to defend himself? I'm absolutely certain he felt that way. If you choose to go that way, understand the other guy doesn't want to die either. I'll note that a Jury just acquitted the other occupiers, setting them up to use the legal system to sue the Fed over civil rights violations. If you choose to go outside the legal system, be prepared to accept the results. Regardless which side of the badge you stand on.. Shouldn't matter if there is no rush to impose tyrannical bullshit on the populous. Had they not been intent on violating his rights...there wouldn't have been an opportunity for the situation to go sideways. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:24:15 PM EDT
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Surprising.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:25:12 PM EDT
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Good. Shame the one guy got killed. Finicum got what he wanted: a shootout with the cops. It just didn't turn out like he'd fantasized. Oh well. You are right that he got what he wanted You are wrong there about how it turned out. It went better than he could have hoped. Guy is a martyr now. Video proof they were trying to kill him before he made his play.. Killed for doing nothing in particular when you consider the bigger circumstances... He got exactly what he fantasized about. All true And all very bad. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:25:58 PM EDT
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too bad only LaVoy Finicum got what he deserved.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:26:15 PM EDT
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Glad to hear
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:26:39 PM EDT
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The herpy derpy comments are awesome.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:26:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What have you done with the real FedDC? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. What have you done with the real FedDC? That's what I was thinking. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:26:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let that be a lesson to everyone. If you care about freedom but duck jury duty you are part of the problem. You should be down at the courthouse knocking down the doors to get onto jury duty. The Sixth Amendment, Jury Nullification, And Why You Need to Take Jury Duty Seriously. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:27:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What have you done with the real FedDC? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. What have you done with the real FedDC? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:28:03 PM EDT
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LOL.
I think if you are going to risk federal imprisonment for as long as they may have faced I'd prefer a different target to start with. That being said I'm happy for them the jury practiced nullification, fuck the Feds. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:28:53 PM EDT
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I can't not tag this for later.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:29:08 PM EDT
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. What have you done with the real FedDC? It doesn't look like an endorsement towards either side. It's an intelligent assessment of what is going on. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:29:39 PM EDT
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So, was the trial in Portlandia?
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:29:41 PM EDT
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I guess the jury felt they were punished enough with all those dildos that were sent to them disguised as care packages.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:30:47 PM EDT
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There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. That was an absolutely awesome articulation. I never thought you were incapable, I have just never seen you do this before. Very impressive and I am saving your words for possible use later if that is permissible.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:30:49 PM EDT
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Funny, I don't see thousands of people up in arms and protesting about it. Nobody gives a shit except for the useful idiots that the clan conned into rooting for them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Shame the one guy got killed. Finicum got what he wanted: a shootout with the cops. It just didn't turn out like he'd fantasized. Oh well. You are right that he got what he wanted You are wrong there about how it turned out. It went better than he could have hoped. Guy is a martyr now. Video proof they were trying to kill him before he made his play.. Killed for doing nothing in particular when you consider the bigger circumstances... He got exactly what he fantasized about. Funny, I don't see thousands of people up in arms and protesting about it. Nobody gives a shit except for the useful idiots that the clan conned into rooting for them. That is awful short sighted. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:31:57 PM EDT
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Don't see too many good examples of jury nullification. The government was way out of line on this one.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:32:18 PM EDT
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. I'm weirded out by you posting this. You and me both...but he's correct. 
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:32:29 PM EDT
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 how's they fuck that up?
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:34:05 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: how's they fuck that up? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:34:09 PM EDT
[#48]
Outstanding!!
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:34:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what I was thinking. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. What have you done with the real FedDC? That's what I was thinking. I'm glad it wasn't just me |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:34:46 PM EDT
[#50]
Surprising outcome
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