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Posted: 10/26/2016 1:14:54 PM EDT
Growing up hunting deer, I was always told that selling Venison was illegal.  Is it a state by state thing?





Arby's Now Selling Venison Burgers!


http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2016/10/25/arbys-takes-stab-venison-burgers-select-locations/92727506/



 
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:15:29 PM EDT
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Pen raised.

Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:16:10 PM EDT
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Must vary by state.

It is illegal here.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:17:08 PM EDT
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Nothing local?  Bastards!
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:18:54 PM EDT
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FPNI. If it's raised commercially, for consumption. Just the same as restaurants that sell Elk, bear, ect ect. The Cabelas here has a wild game cafe, but none of the meat was ever wild.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:19:05 PM EDT
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Good for Arby's.






Not sure about the onion rings though.








 
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:19:57 PM EDT
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What is the logic of selling venison being illegal?  

Legitimately curious as to why.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:20:51 PM EDT
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The article says free range farm....well hell, my deer are free range on my farm.   In Arkansas, pen raising deer is also Illegal.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:21:54 PM EDT
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Maybe the wild aspect of it and the nasty critters they can carry.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:22:21 PM EDT
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I've always assumed it was the poaching angle.

Here, selling hunted game is illegal (venison, moose, etc), but sale of farm raised is OK.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:24:33 PM EDT
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Yeah, I think the caveat is that it needs to be farm raised, not wild.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:24:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:25:02 PM EDT
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Its probably those frm raised red stags
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:25:07 PM EDT
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hmm that sounds tasty

Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:25:36 PM EDT
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Just depends on the state, we can sell venison here in Montana, lots of restaurants sell venison and elk as specials during the fall.  That said, they are not wild animals in most cases, they are farm raised specifically for the retail business.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:27:20 PM EDT
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it is illegal to sell deer meat or parts up here............. regarding white tails..............

there are a few red deer farms that sell venison/jerky.......... they are farmed and enclosed...........and are not the native species that is hunted in the fall.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:30:58 PM EDT
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Market hunting can quickly wipe out wild game populations.
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Market hunting can quickly wipe out wild game populations.


While true, I think it has more to do with the lack of USDA inspection on hunted wild game.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:32:38 PM EDT
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The venison yer eating at restaurants supplied by restaurant supply co. are pen raised and probably legal in all states.  Same with frog legs.  The legal issues are from lack of .GOV certifying agencies.  Very few places serve goat for lack of .GOV certification.  Public food is regulated........it's for the children.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:35:33 PM EDT
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Your State's EPA & FDA have it covered...

The King shall be compensated for the consumption of his deer(s).
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:37:10 PM EDT
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Might be imported from NZ too...they raise a lot of elk which they also call venison and Stag deer. Pen raised, their idea of a pen is 12' chain link fence around 100 acres.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:37:31 PM EDT
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yep.

there's a guy by me who rotates whitetails, elk, and bison on his property.

he has quite a fence.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:40:54 PM EDT
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Growing up hunting deer, I was always told that selling Venison was illegal. Is it a state by state thing?

Arby's Now Selling Venison Burgers!
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Yep, deer harvest is regulated by the states, any venison being sold is almost certainly pen raised.  By permit only in LA.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:42:36 PM EDT
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Pretty sure that is just deer harvested by hunters.  There are many upscale restaurants in TX that offer version and many other game dishes.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:43:58 PM EDT
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yep.

there's a guy by me who rotates whitetails, elk, and bison on his property.

he has quite a fence.
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yep.

there's a guy by me who rotates whitetails, elk, and bison on his property.

he has quite a fence.


Bison will fuck a fence uuuuuuuuuup!

Dude I knew that farmed them had telephone pole uprights with concrete filled four inch pipe horizontal.  It'd catch 'em but the dent in the pipe and the concrete powder blowing out the ends afterward was something to behold.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:45:02 PM EDT
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The venison yer eating at restaurants supplied by restaurant supply co. are pen raised and probably legal in all states. Same with frog legs. The legal issues are from lack of .GOV certifying agencies.  Very few places serve goat for lack of .GOV certification.  Public food is regulated........it's for the children.
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Not in La, I make a fair amount of money selling wild caught frog legs, though I doubt much of what I sell makes it out of the parish, much less the state.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:45:48 PM EDT
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Your state has shitty laws, get over it.  Farm raised 'wild animals' all over the place in these parts.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:47:53 PM EDT
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Cool, all the Arby's around me are selling them.

 
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Bison will fuck a fence uuuuuuuuuup!

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yep.

there's a guy by me who rotates whitetails, elk, and bison on his property.

he has quite a fence.


Bison will fuck a fence uuuuuuuuuup!

Dude I knew that farmed them had telephone pole uprights with concrete filled four inch pipe horizontal.  It'd catch 'em but the dent in the pipe and the concrete powder blowing out the ends afterward was something to behold.

To a bison a fence is only a suggestion. If they want to, they'll get through.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:52:36 PM EDT
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this is pen raised and I'd like to add that a lot of time these meats are not whitetail deer but other species of deer.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:53:39 PM EDT
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market hunting decimated our wildlife.
selling wild game is verboten and carries very stiff fines.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:53:47 PM EDT
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Might be imported from NZ too...they raise a lot of elk which they also call venison and Stag deer. Pen raised, their idea of a pen is 12' chain link fence around 100 acres.
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thats european red deer, not elk (wapiti)


anyways the arby's in plainwell has these.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:55:13 PM EDT
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Nearly the entire state of Texas is a farm/ranch.


Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:55:32 PM EDT
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WTF?!?!?  



Columbus OH is Food Test Fast Food central.  We get everything first!

I guess Arby's didn't get the memo.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 1:59:40 PM EDT
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Encourages market hunting and poaching.

Sport hunting is generally good for game, but market hunting has lead to massive reductions or even extinction of some species.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 2:00:40 PM EDT
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Supposed to prevent poaching.

Like how market hunting nearly killed off the entire US duck population.

If you make it legal to sell wild venison steaks, plenty of shit birds will be out taking them illegally for profit.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 2:02:27 PM EDT
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We have a butcher shop here that sells it....I get a pound or two and make chili with it.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 2:04:00 PM EDT
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To a bison a fence is only a suggestion. If they want to, they'll get through.
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yep.

there's a guy by me who rotates whitetails, elk, and bison on his property.

he has quite a fence.


Bison will fuck a fence uuuuuuuuuup!

Dude I knew that farmed them had telephone pole uprights with concrete filled four inch pipe horizontal.  It'd catch 'em but the dent in the pipe and the concrete powder blowing out the ends afterward was something to behold.

To a bison a fence is only a suggestion. If they want to, they'll get through.


or, even more surprising, they'll go over.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 2:04:23 PM EDT
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Selling wild game is generally illegal.

Selling farm raised venison is just fine.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:26:33 PM EDT
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I googled wild game meats a few years ago and found things that surprised me, like lion meat.  Bison, elk, deer, buffalo, kudu, boar, antelope and all sorts of other meats were available delivered to your door, just like Omaha meats sells steaks, burgers, and similar stuff.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:29:59 PM EDT
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Kind of takes away the fun of savoring the memories of your harvest with every bite.

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Maybe the wild aspect of it and the nasty critters they can carry.
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Maybe the wild aspect of it and the nasty critters they can carry.




 
That and there is no .gov inspection, just like the pricks try and stop people from private sales of milk and eggs.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:32:02 PM EDT
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I'll try it.


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Venison'susuallyharvestedassport.Heymyspacebardoesn'twork.Weird.

 
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:35:01 PM EDT
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Licensed and FDA approved. NOT wild dear.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:41:16 PM EDT
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Me to.  It's be available close enough to me that I'll give it a shot.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:41:26 PM EDT
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Poaching.
One of the hillbilly family members that lives over the hill from me used to be a big time poacher.
Guy had maybe half acre and some chickens.   Owned a butchers bandsaw, but he never did any butchering for other people.
It was not unusual to hear rifle shots down that way late at night, pretty much all year around.
He took 28 deer hides into the Westomoreland Fur Post one season, many years ago.
I was told he was selling the meat to restaurants in Pittsburgh.  

The guy is a thief all around (stealing firewood, fruit) and so was half the family, a bunch of thieves.
He is quite old now.   He will not be missed by any decent person.
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We're one of the 6 test states.  

http://www.tmj4.com/news/national/arbys-testing-deer-meat-sandwiches-through-november
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:42:31 PM EDT
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While true, I think it has more to do with the lack of USDA inspection on hunted wild game.
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What is the logic of selling venison being illegal?  

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Market hunting can quickly wipe out wild game populations.


While true, I think it has more to do with the lack of USDA inspection on hunted wild game.


And like USDA inspectors aren't being paid off at Tyson and other factory farms.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:45:03 PM EDT
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According to the company, the locations were chosen in heavy deer
hunting areas in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Tennessee
and Georgia.



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4415 Roswell Rd. NE, Atlanta



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Uhhhh....





 
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