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good thing there isn't a growing % of American women who think that they should be 300 pounds, have a CEO job, and date a super model millionaire stud who spends every moment fawning over her. MGTOW is a response to the new feminist ideal. https://i.imgflip.com/152b3f.jpg View Quote What I'll never understand though is that nobody forces you into a relationship with someone like that. It's not like you're minding your own business and next thing you know you're in a hostage situation. There are sects of men out there I'd avoid like the plague but I wouldn't write them all off just because those other ones exist. It's not that hard to deal with individuals as......well, individuals. |
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Men do not need to swear off women. Men do need to realize how much power many of them give up just to get a woman to have sex with them. Once men realize how they give up power, they can stop playing the games that cost them their power, autonomy, and freedom.
Women are not stupid and learn early on how to use sex to manipulate men, just as many men use money to manipulate women. Realizing where the power comes from, then deciding how much power you want to give up for sex seems much better than just swearing off women. |
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Half of us are divorced!
There's a point here. Some people don't need to be out there fucking up other people's lives. You can't give up drugs, drinking, sex with random people, you don't need to get married or be in a long term relationship. This is the lifestyle you need. How many people do you know that have only been divorced once? Think about it. If you could cull out that portion of the population, divorce lawyers would weep. But us guys, we're all suckers for a little pussy and some girl who we think loves us. |
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It sounds like a club of people who can't get women and have given up. Oh well, it's a self correcting problem.
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What I'll never understand though is that nobody forces you into a relationship with someone like that. It's not like you're minding your own business and next thing you know you're in a hostage situation. There are sects of men out there I'd avoid like the plague but I wouldn't write them all off just because those other ones exist. It's not that hard to deal with individuals as......well, individuals. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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good thing there isn't a growing % of American women who think that they should be 300 pounds, have a CEO job, and date a super model millionaire stud who spends every moment fawning over her. MGTOW is a response to the new feminist ideal. https://i.imgflip.com/152b3f.jpg What I'll never understand though is that nobody forces you into a relationship with someone like that. It's not like you're minding your own business and next thing you know you're in a hostage situation. There are sects of men out there I'd avoid like the plague but I wouldn't write them all off just because those other ones exist. It's not that hard to deal with individuals as......well, individuals. Your risk factors for a failed relationship are different than for a man. |
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If that's the case, then maybe we'll get lucky and the population will decrease over a generation or two. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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good thing there isn't a growing % of American women who think that they should be 300 pounds, have a CEO job, and date a super model millionaire stud who spends every moment fawning over her. MGTOW is a response to the new feminist ideal. https://i.imgflip.com/152b3f.jpg If that's the case, then maybe we'll get lucky and the population will decrease over a generation or two. lol, it won't. Population growth is explicitly subsidized. Having children you can't afford is explicitly subsidized. We'd better hope irresponsibility isn't genetic. Because we're intentionally sorting for it. |
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Half of us are divorced! There's a point here. Some people don't need to be out there fucking up other people's lives. You can't give up drugs, drinking, sex with random people, you don't need to get married or be in a long term relationship. This is the lifestyle you need. How many people do you know that have only been divorced once? Think about it. If you could cull out that portion of the population, divorce lawyers would weep. But us guys, we're all suckers for a little pussy and some girl who we think loves us. View Quote It just doesn't have that feel, though. It doesn't have the vibe of divorcees. It's more like guys who've never interacted with a normal, stable, fun, cute woman. It reeks of men who feel "rejection" that is only a reflection of their insecurity. |
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good thing there isn't a growing % of American women who think that they should be 300 pounds, have a CEO job, and date a super model millionaire stud who spends every moment fawning over her. MGTOW is a response to the new feminist ideal. https://i.imgflip.com/152b3f.jpg What I'll never understand though is that nobody forces you into a relationship with someone like that. It's not like you're minding your own business and next thing you know you're in a hostage situation. There are sects of men out there I'd avoid like the plague but I wouldn't write them all off just because those other ones exist. It's not that hard to deal with individuals as......well, individuals. Your risk factors for a failed relationship are different than for a man. Yeah, we're seeing the other side of the pendulum swing on that equation. Like someone said----self-correcting problem. Nothing in life is linear. This won't be the downfall of male/female pair-bonding. |
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Quoted: I have a buddy who is sort of in that mind-set. He is older but funny and fit and way younger women still hit on him all the time. He is just done with anything other than casual sex though. He was married (wife died of cancer), has a kid, grandchildren. We were talking about it and in his way of thinking he just pissed away too much time thinking about chasing tail. View Quote I have a buddy like that. Relly shitty divorce and is just done. I asked if he was going to get a girl friend, his response was something along the lines of "Hell no, they just screw with my ability to go fishing, hunting, shooting, scuba diving or motorcycle riding. I'm good." |
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I have neither the time nor the patience to deal with relationships any more. Do I miss sex? Duh. Do I miss the hassle & drama involved with getting laid? Not one bit.
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Sounds like a bunch of unhealthy, socially awkward neckbearded gamers who've decided porn and video games are better than dealing with rejection child support, alimony, and losing half your shit No one wants them but by vowing to "not try", they can tell everyone that they're actually in control of the situation. View Quote |
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Why would you swear off sex, and especially why if you require a support group to do it?
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Why would you swear off sex, and especially why if you require a support group to do it? (Religion aside) View Quote They haven't. Just relationships. Save up some money, rail the shit out of a hooker every month or two (which is more sex than some married men are getting) and do what the fuck you want. |
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I think it's just an issue with modern women. They tend to HIGHLY overrate themselves to the point they only want an attractive, rich professional who knows what he wants in life and likes to travel the world. Meanwhile, the woman is 200 pounds and works part time at mcdonalds while living with her parents. The standards have gotten so ridiculous it's easy to understand why some men give up hope. It's no longer enough to be 'as good as' the girl you're trying to court. You need to be better. Then she ends up sleeping with other people because 'she's a strong independent woman and can't be tied down so early in life'.
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So they get hurt by careless women, so they become careless men and hurt more women, who become careless, etc. They're just trying to contribute to the circle of dystopia. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Didn't we just to used to call them gay? Its also inaccurate. MGTOWs will still fuck women, they just want nothing to do with them socially or in any long term relationship. Overseas sex junkets, prostitutes, occasional easy lay. So they get hurt by careless women, so they become careless men and hurt more women, who become careless, etc. They're just trying to contribute to the circle of dystopia. They want something as unrealistic as the women they rail against. They all want to marry a virgin who has a master's degree and 6 figure income who will also be a stay at home mom while at the same time they just get to play video games and watch internet porn. It's a social failure on both sides.Younger women have bought into a bunch of sheer bullshit in regards to neo-feminism while younger men have little idea how to be an actual man. |
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They haven't. Just relationships. Save up some money, rail the shit out of a hooker every month or two (which is more sex than some married men are getting) and do what the fuck you want. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why would you swear off sex, and especially why if you require a support group to do it? (Religion aside) They haven't. Just relationships. Save up some money, rail the shit out of a hooker every month or two (which is more sex than some married men are getting) and do what the fuck you want. Ah. Makes more sense. Still don't get the group thing though. |
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I'm actually OK with this movement. Truth be told these aren't the kind of men that I'd want out there passing on their genetic material to the gene pool. They're self bleaching and they should be commended for it.
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They want something as unrealistic as the women they rail against. They all want to marry a virgin who has a master's degree and 6 figure income who will also be a stay at home mom while at the same time they just get to play video games and watch internet porn. It's a social failure on both sides.Younger women have bought into a bunch of sheer bullshit in regards to neo-feminism while younger men have little idea how to be an actual man. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Didn't we just to used to call them gay? Its also inaccurate. MGTOWs will still fuck women, they just want nothing to do with them socially or in any long term relationship. Overseas sex junkets, prostitutes, occasional easy lay. So they get hurt by careless women, so they become careless men and hurt more women, who become careless, etc. They're just trying to contribute to the circle of dystopia. They want something as unrealistic as the women they rail against. They all want to marry a virgin who has a master's degree and 6 figure income who will also be a stay at home mom while at the same time they just get to play video games and watch internet porn. It's a social failure on both sides.Younger women have bought into a bunch of sheer bullshit in regards to neo-feminism while younger men have little idea how to be an actual man. Not really. They just want to have a relationship without the risk of a random, lose all your life earnings because she "isn't happy" You should spend some quality time over here. Our women generally aren't like your little sis (seriously, she's ridiculously cute) |
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I'm actually OK with this movement. Truth be told these aren't the kind of men that I'd want out there passing on their genetic material to the gene pool. They're self bleaching and they should be commended for it. View Quote You shouldn't be ok with it lol. The kinds of men who ARE passing on their genetics are the lower class of society. Tony G who has 10 babies with 3 different baby mamas. |
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Ah. Makes more sense. Still don't get the group thing though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why would you swear off sex, and especially why if you require a support group to do it? (Religion aside) They haven't. Just relationships. Save up some money, rail the shit out of a hooker every month or two (which is more sex than some married men are getting) and do what the fuck you want. Ah. Makes more sense. Still don't get the group thing though. Me either. If I wasn't happily married with kids and ended up alone somehow, I'd prefer to stay that way most of the time; alone. |
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Me either. If I wasn't happily married with kids and ended up alone somehow, I'd prefer to stay that way most of the time; alone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why would you swear off sex, and especially why if you require a support group to do it? (Religion aside) They haven't. Just relationships. Save up some money, rail the shit out of a hooker every month or two (which is more sex than some married men are getting) and do what the fuck you want. Ah. Makes more sense. Still don't get the group thing though. Me either. If I wasn't happily married with kids and ended up alone somehow, I'd prefer to stay that way most of the time; alone. I think that's part of peoples' issues with it. If you're truly happy and comfortable with yourself and your life----you just live it----not make it a *cause.* |
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Look, they're not gay. They're just men who have sworn off women and prefer the company of other men... um.
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I think that's part of peoples' issues with it. If you're truly happy and comfortable with yourself and your life----you just live it----not make it a *cause.* View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why would you swear off sex, and especially why if you require a support group to do it? (Religion aside) They haven't. Just relationships. Save up some money, rail the shit out of a hooker every month or two (which is more sex than some married men are getting) and do what the fuck you want. Ah. Makes more sense. Still don't get the group thing though. Me either. If I wasn't happily married with kids and ended up alone somehow, I'd prefer to stay that way most of the time; alone. I think that's part of peoples' issues with it. If you're truly happy and comfortable with yourself and your life----you just live it----not make it a *cause.* However, culturally there is still an attitude that unless a man is paying for a woman in some way or manner, he is wrong. good thing feminism isn't "a cause" |
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I have neither the time nor the patience to deal with relationships any more. Do I miss sex? Duh. Do I miss the hassle & drama involved with getting laid? Not one bit. View Quote This actually makes sense when you think about it. I can see that. If I lost Mrs. Pic I would NOT want to get involved with another serious relationship. (Unless I could pull off a Piccolo Nicole Smith.) I can see where these guys are coming from. Drama free lives seems like a pretty good thing to me. The whole thing just seems like a mental, emotional and financial drain and the system is set up against men to begin with. If you run the numbers, it is a LOT cheaper to buy it or find a relationship with an independent woman my own age that likes her life the way it is and does not want to change it. |
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However, culturally there is still an attitude that unless a man is paying for a woman in some way or manner, he is wrong. good thing feminism isn't "a cause" View Quote I don't care what *cultural* beliefs are. I live by my own beliefs. Good thing I've never once defended feminism. |
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good thing there isn't a growing % of American women who think that they should be 300 pounds, have a CEO job, and date a super model millionaire stud who spends every moment fawning over her. MGTOW is a response to the new feminist ideal. https://i.imgflip.com/152b3f.jpg What I'll never understand though is that nobody forces you into a relationship with someone like that. It's not like you're minding your own business and next thing you know you're in a hostage situation. There are sects of men out there I'd avoid like the plague but I wouldn't write them all off just because those other ones exist. It's not that hard to deal with individuals as......well, individuals. Amen, this man speaks the truth. The "go your own" way movement or whatever it is called is in reaction to the lopsided court system that always portrays woman as victims and men as perpetrators. Europe has had a similar social change in that men will cohabitate with women for years and then just leave. Many European men simply refuse to marry and the court system in many countries don't honor "girlfriend rights". There is simply no incentive to get married at all. This isn't a new phenomenon, trying to convince a man to marry a woman usually involved a hefty bribe known as a dowry. A large dowry or land holding ensured that your daughter would receive some level of fair treatment as opposed to outright abuse and was an insurance policy against divorce. If someone left your daughter high and dry then they would have to pay back the dowry or give up the land holdings. Today, nothing like that exist and in fact it is the direct opposite. Your risk factors for a failed relationship are different than for a man. |
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Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl ‘Will you marry me?’
The girl said, ‘NO!’ And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and went fishing and hunting and played golf a lot and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted. The End Happily married by the way. |
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Quoted: This actually makes sense when you think about it. I can see that. If I lost Mrs. Pic I would NOT want to get involved with another serious relationship. (Unless I could pull off a Piccolo Nicole Smith.) I can see where these guys are coming from. Drama free lives seems like a pretty good thing to me. The whole thing just seems like a mental, emotional and financial drain and the system is set up against men to begin with. If you run the numbers, it is a LOT cheaper to buy it or find a relationship with an independent woman my own age that likes her life the way it is and does not want to change it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I have neither the time nor the patience to deal with relationships any more. Do I miss sex? Duh. Do I miss the hassle & drama involved with getting laid? Not one bit. This actually makes sense when you think about it. I can see that. If I lost Mrs. Pic I would NOT want to get involved with another serious relationship. (Unless I could pull off a Piccolo Nicole Smith.) I can see where these guys are coming from. Drama free lives seems like a pretty good thing to me. The whole thing just seems like a mental, emotional and financial drain and the system is set up against men to begin with. If you run the numbers, it is a LOT cheaper to buy it or find a relationship with an independent woman my own age that likes her life the way it is and does not want to change it. |
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Sounds like a bunch of unhealthy, socially awkward neckbearded gamers who've decided porn and video games are better than dealing with rejection. No one wants them but by vowing to "not try", they can tell everyone that they're actually in control of the situation. View Quote Well said. |
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There is a difference between a man preferring the independence that comes with being single and a man thinking all women are out to hurt men because he's made one poor relationship decision after another or is the kind who can't get laid unless there is a financial transaction involved. This sounds like the latter rather than just wanting to be independent.
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They haven't. Just relationships. Save up some money, rail the shit out of a hooker every month or two (which is more sex than some married men are getting) and do what the fuck you want. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why would you swear off sex, and especially why if you require a support group to do it? (Religion aside) They haven't. Just relationships. Save up some money, rail the shit out of a hooker every month or two (which is more sex than some married men are getting) and do what the fuck you want. Level one sees a man rejecting long-term relationships but engaging in sexual encounters, which he will reject in level two. |
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This reminds me of a friend of my wife. She was worried her live in boyfriend was not getting enough sex from her, so she bought him a Fleshlight. A month later he dumped her. That was about 8 years ago, hasn't dated a woman since. If you distill it to that point the choice is easy. View Quote That was stupid... I'd have kept her just to clean the Fleshlight and fix sammiches |
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I want to get a good look at these motherfuckers. I have my suspicions (you do too) and I'll bet we're not wrong. SUPREME https://67.media.tumblr.com/547642b3beff0d364c55f490cdc0d257/tumblr_inline_nmuwwrA31e1ts9ad2_400.png GENTLEMAN https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/1985993.main_image.jpg I doff my trilby to you, Supreme Gentleman |
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I have a buddy who is sort of in that mind-set. He is older but funny and fit and way younger women still hit on him all the time. He is just done with anything other than casual sex though. He was married (wife died of cancer), has a kid, grandchildren. We were talking about it and in his way of thinking he just pissed away too much time thinking about chasing tail. View Quote That's exactly how men think when their testosterone gets low... |
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