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Posted: 9/26/2016 10:56:32 PM EDT
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Normally how it goes.
My dad questioned the fuck out of why I wanted suppressors. "Guns are fun loud" He, himself, owning a MG and a Short barrels shotgun. Man did he love shooting the shit out of my SiCo Sparrow. Even picked himself up a SiCo Omega 9k. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:02:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: i heard it would drop it a bit, but holy shit.. just finished up the 338 LM can for my dad. test fired it tonight. with clipped cones very little to no POI shift. recoils like a .243 now, its crazy on how much it calmed it down. Funny part is I paid for the materials (inconel,Ti and 17-4), the form 1 and listened to him bitch about it teh whole way. I dont need that, I dont want that. BLAH Blah blah.. After he shot it tonight, changed his mind completely. Oh thats staying on that gun.. no no dont take it off. Ill take it this week when we go over for deer.. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:06:40 PM EDT
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It truly is impressive. I shot a fellow Arfcommers .338 LM that was suppressed and it was incredibly tame. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i heard it would drop it a bit, but holy shit.. just finished up the 338 LM can for my dad. test fired it tonight. with clipped cones very little to no POI shift. recoils like a .243 now, its crazy on how much it calmed it down. Funny part is I paid for the materials (inconel,Ti and 17-4), the form 1 and listened to him bitch about it teh whole way. I dont need that, I dont want that. BLAH Blah blah.. After he shot it tonight, changed his mind completely. Oh thats staying on that gun.. no no dont take it off. Ill take it this week when we go over for deer.. ya it was actually FUN to shoot.. it was nice, since this was the first time he shot it with out the lead sled. hes been worried about using it this year, thinking too much recoil. Built both the rifle and suppressor for the old man.. I just hope my kids do something like that for me when i get old.. 
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:07:16 PM EDT
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2 ways. Added mass from the suppressor and preventing the gasses from rushing out with the bullet.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:08:21 PM EDT
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i heard it would drop it a bit, but holy shit.. just finished up the 338 LM can for my dad. test fired it tonight. with clipped cones very little to no POI shift. recoils like a .243 now, its crazy on how much it calmed it down. Funny part is I paid for the materials (inconel,Ti and 17-4), the form 1 and listened to him bitch about it teh whole way. I dont need that, I dont want that. BLAH Blah blah.. After he shot it tonight, changed his mind completely. Oh thats staying on that gun.. no no dont take it off. Ill take it this week when we go over for deer.. I have a Salvo 12 and it takes a pump action 12 gauge shotgun from... Well... A shotgun and turns it into about a 20 gauge. Putting it on the Versamax is a no brainier. I really want a shorter barrel for the Versamax, then it would be pimptacular. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:08:25 PM EDT
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Just makes shooting more expensive. So many more rounds so much less shoulder pain.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:10:38 PM EDT
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Where are the pics OP? WTF!?!
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:11:39 PM EDT
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Try a 50
Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:13:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are the pics OP? WTF!?! Yea, what he said. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:14:29 PM EDT
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Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:14:44 PM EDT
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An appropriately designed brake would decrease it more.
But yes, cans are fun. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:16:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:17:50 PM EDT
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An appropriately designed brake would decrease it more. But yes, cans are fun. I don't see a whole lot of well-designed brakes. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:18:02 PM EDT
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I've never done a back to back with the same rifle, but I've never thought that a suppressed rifle was much more tame with a suppressor. Most rifles I've shot with suppressors have been heavy or .556 though.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:25:19 PM EDT
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I've never done a back to back with the same rifle, but I've never thought that a suppressed rifle was much more tame with a suppressor. Most rifles I've shot with suppressors have been heavy or .556 though. I notice little or no recoil reduction with a 5.56 (which doesn't really have any recoil to reduce anyway). I notice a huge reduction with a .308, maybe 50%. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:29:43 PM EDT
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I would have not thought that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. The muzzlebrake on a 50 is very effective, throwing a can on removes that mitigation. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:29:46 PM EDT
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I'll let you know next year sometime.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:30:02 PM EDT
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I don't see a whole lot of well-designed brakes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An appropriately designed brake would decrease it more. But yes, cans are fun. I don't see a whole lot of well-designed brakes. this! |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:30:17 PM EDT
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Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. Never shot a 50, but every suppressor I have seen on a 50 seems fairly small. Would that be true with a much larger suppressor? |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:31:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The muzzlebrake on a 50 is very effective, throwing a can on removes that mitigation. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. The muzzlebrake on a 50 is very effective, throwing a can on removes that mitigation. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:32:16 PM EDT
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sorry no pics, it was a time crunch project. had to have it ready to go tonight. and i started on it friday night. All manual lathe. My hands are killing me..
I WILL get pics when he gets back, and after I paint it.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:32:27 PM EDT
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I don't see a whole lot of well-designed brakes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An appropriately designed brake would decrease it more. But yes, cans are fun. I don't see a whole lot of well-designed brakes. You mean the Ear-Raper 5000 I got on Amazon for $20 shipped isn't a good brake? |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:32:35 PM EDT
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Never shot a 50, but every suppressor I have seen on a 50 seems fairly small. Would that be true with a much larger suppressor? Wat? 
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:33:06 PM EDT
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The muzzlebrake on a 50 is very effective, throwing a can on removes that mitigation. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. The muzzlebrake on a 50 is very effective, throwing a can on removes that mitigation. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That makes sense. Most brakes seem like there isn't much difference if any. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:33:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It truly is impressive. I shot a fellow Arfcommers .338 LM that was suppressed and it was incredibly tame. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i heard it would drop it a bit, but holy shit.. just finished up the 338 LM can for my dad. test fired it tonight. with clipped cones very little to no POI shift. recoils like a .243 now, its crazy on how much it calmed it down. Funny part is I paid for the materials (inconel,Ti and 17-4), the form 1 and listened to him bitch about it teh whole way. I dont need that, I dont want that. BLAH Blah blah.. After he shot it tonight, changed his mind completely. Oh thats staying on that gun.. no no dont take it off. Ill take it this week when we go over for deer.. I am have a Howa 1500 in 300wm threaded because of how well it tamed it |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:47:47 PM EDT
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Normally how it goes. My dad questioned the fuck out of why I wanted suppressors. "Guns are fun loud" He, himself, owning a MG and a Short barrels shotgun. Man did he love shooting the shit out of my SiCo Sparrow. Even picked himself up a SiCo Omega 9k. I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:14:00 AM EDT
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sorry no pics, it was a time crunch project. had to have it ready to go tonight. and i started on it friday night. All manual lathe. My hands are killing me.. I WILL get pics when he gets back, and after I paint it. Pics better be before and after paint OP. Don't turn this into a safe thread!! 
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:17:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Never shot a 50, but every suppressor I have seen on a 50 seems fairly small. Would that be true with a much larger suppressor? Wat? http://i.imgur.com/RVUqF3u.jpg Damn. I knew it was big, but that thing is huge  *that's what she said* |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:22:15 AM EDT
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Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. I didn't even know there was a .50 can! Off to google. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:22:18 AM EDT
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I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Normally how it goes. My dad questioned the fuck out of why I wanted suppressors. "Guns are fun loud" He, himself, owning a MG and a Short barrels shotgun. Man did he love shooting the shit out of my SiCo Sparrow. Even picked himself up a SiCo Omega 9k. I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. Not an engineer... But something's fucky. I'd hope SiCo isn't at fault, but at the end of the day if they are, I hope they take care of it. Mines been great. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:26:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Normally how it goes. My dad questioned the fuck out of why I wanted suppressors. "Guns are fun loud" He, himself, owning a MG and a Short barrels shotgun. Man did he love shooting the shit out of my SiCo Sparrow. Even picked himself up a SiCo Omega 9k. I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. And it caused all sorts of weirdness Tactical Innovations took care of it quickly though |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:34:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Never shot a 50, but every suppressor I have seen on a 50 seems fairly small. Would that be true with a much larger suppressor? Wat? http://i.imgur.com/RVUqF3u.jpg Right....but here's an unscientific answer I think might get the point across a few of us are wondering The 50 Cal bullet is ~15 times heavier and is traveling quite a bit faster than a 9mm. The 50 Cal can would need to be QUITE a bit bigger to achieve the same gas/volume as the 9mm can. 632 J = 9mm for muzzle energy 15037 = 50 BMG for muzzle energy The gas coming out would therefore have to have that much energy, right? The 50 can doesn't have 30 times the volume of the 9 can. *I'm not a scientist, and I don't do sciency things. Don't kill me RA
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:35:34 AM EDT
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Pics better be before and after paint OP. Don't turn this into a safe thread!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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sorry no pics, it was a time crunch project. had to have it ready to go tonight. and i started on it friday night. All manual lathe. My hands are killing me.. I WILL get pics when he gets back, and after I paint it. Pics better be before and after paint OP. Don't turn this into a safe thread!! I will.. I MIGHT be able to get a shot of it tomorrow if its not packed up yet. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:42:25 AM EDT
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i heard it would drop it a bit, but holy shit.. just finished up the 338 LM can for my dad. test fired it tonight. with clipped cones very little to no POI shift. recoils like a .243 now, its crazy on how much it calmed it down. Funny part is I paid for the materials (inconel,Ti and 17-4), the form 1 and listened to him bitch about it teh whole way. I dont need that, I dont want that. BLAH Blah blah.. After he shot it tonight, changed his mind completely. Oh thats staying on that gun.. no no dont take it off. Ill take it this week when we go over for deer.. .338 LM and deer are an interesting combination. Are the deer hardier up there or is dad taking 1300 yard shots? The good news is if he's taking closer shots the deer will be easy to find. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:47:18 AM EDT
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.338 LM and deer are an interesting combination. Are the deer hardier up there or is dad taking 1300 yard shots? The good news is if he's taking closer shots the deer will be easy to find. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i heard it would drop it a bit, but holy shit.. just finished up the 338 LM can for my dad. test fired it tonight. with clipped cones very little to no POI shift. recoils like a .243 now, its crazy on how much it calmed it down. Funny part is I paid for the materials (inconel,Ti and 17-4), the form 1 and listened to him bitch about it teh whole way. I dont need that, I dont want that. BLAH Blah blah.. After he shot it tonight, changed his mind completely. Oh thats staying on that gun.. no no dont take it off. Ill take it this week when we go over for deer.. .338 LM and deer are an interesting combination. Are the deer hardier up there or is dad taking 1300 yard shots? The good news is if he's taking closer shots the deer will be easy to find. eastern oregon.. long range.. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:55:31 AM EDT
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i heard it would drop it a bit, but holy shit.. just finished up the 338 LM can for my dad. test fired it tonight. with clipped cones very little to no POI shift. recoils like a .243 now, its crazy on how much it calmed it down. Funny part is I paid for the materials (inconel,Ti and 17-4), the form 1 and listened to him bitch about it teh whole way. I dont need that, I dont want that. BLAH Blah blah.. After he shot it tonight, changed his mind completely. Oh thats staying on that gun.. no no dont take it off. Ill take it this week when we go over for deer.. .338 LM and deer are an interesting combination. Are the deer hardier up there or is dad taking 1300 yard shots? The good news is if he's taking closer shots the deer will be easy to find. eastern oregon.. long range.. Mmhmm.....big hills out here. My dad's elk rifle is a 30-378, I'm trying to talk him into rebarreling it though. Can't keep it sub moa. Also trying to talk him into a Sandman for it. But with 41f I'm hesitating to do any more forms. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 1:03:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Never shot a 50, but every suppressor I have seen on a 50 seems fairly small. Would that be true with a much larger suppressor? Wat? http://i.imgur.com/RVUqF3u.jpg Put a brake on the suppressor ... |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 1:08:05 AM EDT
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Gas in the face as a southpaw is the largest drawback.
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Posted: 9/27/2016 1:13:02 AM EDT
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A lot of people don't realize it because they don't adjust the gas on their AR after installing a can.
My 11.5" SBR had worse recoil after installing a can. Installed an adjustable gas block and it has been great. 
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:03:48 AM EDT
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Never shot a 50, but every suppressor I have seen on a 50 seems fairly small. Would that be true with a much larger suppressor? Wat? http://i.imgur.com/RVUqF3u.jpg Put a brake on the suppressor ... TX_M1, have you shot the Barrett can? 
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:07:32 AM EDT
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Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I wouldn't say a lot but it does increase it a bit. I will take that all day long over the blast. I won't shoot 50s w/o a can unless there is no brake (i.e. M2) |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:08:47 AM EDT
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Cans make me wet in the middle.
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:11:52 AM EDT
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TX_M1, have you shot the Barrett can? http://img04.deviantart.net/acc0/i/2012/263/d/0/barrett_m107a1_with_suppressor_by_knesekguns-d5fcku5.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never shot a 50, but every suppressor I have seen on a 50 seems fairly small. Would that be true with a much larger suppressor? Wat? http://i.imgur.com/RVUqF3u.jpg Put a brake on the suppressor ... TX_M1, have you shot the Barrett can? http://img04.deviantart.net/acc0/i/2012/263/d/0/barrett_m107a1_with_suppressor_by_knesekguns-d5fcku5.jpg 
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:16:53 AM EDT
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I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Normally how it goes. My dad questioned the fuck out of why I wanted suppressors. "Guns are fun loud" He, himself, owning a MG and a Short barrels shotgun. Man did he love shooting the shit out of my SiCo Sparrow. Even picked himself up a SiCo Omega 9k. I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. What brand barrel? And "looks true" means nothing for barrel threads. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:27:39 AM EDT
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Yeah Ive never noticed a reduction in recoil using a can either.
It makes it quieter which may seem like it reduces recoil. Then again Im only using cans on pistol and 5.56mm cartridges. With the cyclic speed increase I almost think it increases recoil, but the weight of the can on the end of the gun kind of neutralizes that. Im no scientist |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:32:22 AM EDT
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TX_M1, have you shot the Barrett can? http://img04.deviantart.net/acc0/i/2012/263/d/0/barrett_m107a1_with_suppressor_by_knesekguns-d5fcku5.jpg I'll be in my bunk |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:34:25 AM EDT
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TX_M1, have you shot the Barrett can? http://img04.deviantart.net/acc0/i/2012/263/d/0/barrett_m107a1_with_suppressor_by_knesekguns-d5fcku5.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never shot a 50, but every suppressor I have seen on a 50 seems fairly small. Would that be true with a much larger suppressor? Wat? http://i.imgur.com/RVUqF3u.jpg Put a brake on the suppressor ... TX_M1, have you shot the Barrett can? http://img04.deviantart.net/acc0/i/2012/263/d/0/barrett_m107a1_with_suppressor_by_knesekguns-d5fcku5.jpg I have. The brake on the can helps, but its still a bitch to shoot compared to the regular brake. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:36:00 AM EDT
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Maybe next spring I'll have my Alpha. Waiting to see what it does on 300wsm.
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:44:39 AM EDT
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I wouldn't say a lot but it does increase it a bit. I will take that all day long over the blast. I won't shoot 50s w/o a can unless there is no brake (i.e. M2) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Try a 50 Recoil increases...a LOT Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I wouldn't say a lot but it does increase it a bit. I will take that all day long over the blast. I won't shoot 50s w/o a can unless there is no brake (i.e. M2) Sinus clearing concussion is the best part of shooting a 50. Lots of fun with the tank brake on my CQ 
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:45:49 AM EDT
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I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Normally how it goes. My dad questioned the fuck out of why I wanted suppressors. "Guns are fun loud" He, himself, owning a MG and a Short barrels shotgun. Man did he love shooting the shit out of my SiCo Sparrow. Even picked himself up a SiCo Omega 9k. I just shipped my Sparrow back today. Just put it on a 10/22 last week and was done after 16rnds. Didn't seem to quiet the report at all and the point of impact changed about 18" low and 4"left at only 25yds and no amount of sight adjustment makes any improvement. Firing with the suppressor removed returns the point of impact to point of aim. The threads on the suppressor and the barrel look true and the bullets are not striking the baffles or endcap. You need to shoot subsonic ammo, and get a barrel with unfucked threads. |
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