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Posted: 9/25/2016 8:41:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2016 8:45:52 PM EDT
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Are you set on aluminum? The following link is the blog of a guy who does endurance rides, including Paris-Brest-Paris every four years. Scroll to the very bottom and read the "Journey of Discovery" postings. They explain what this guy and his friends have discovered works best for endurance rides. They are currently having a broad impact on bicycling via the recent adoption of fatter tires, even by racers.
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Posted: 9/25/2016 8:53:27 PM EDT
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Specialized diverge smartweld .
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Posted: 9/25/2016 8:55:11 PM EDT
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Define endurance. Then define budget.
100 miles? Steel or titanium. 20 miles? Pick on that fits. At the Tiagra or 105 levels it won't matter a lot. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 8:55:14 PM EDT
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upgrade to carbon and dura ace
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:17:46 PM EDT
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upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:18:31 PM EDT
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Are you set on aluminum? The following link is the blog of a guy who does endurance rides, including Paris-Brest-Paris every four years. Scroll to the very bottom and read the "Journey of Discovery" postings. They explain what this guy and his friends have discovered works best for endurance rides. They are currently having a broad impact on bicycling via the recent adoption of fatter tires, even by racers. https://janheine.wordpress.com/category/a-journey-of-discovery/page/3/ Hang around the bike industry long enough and it all comes around again. 70's steel bikes are best bikes... brah. Endurance riding and racing are two different animals but...back in the day our sew-up tires were wider and softer. Clement silk criteriums were what we glued on for long hard rough roads and towards the end of stage races when we were tired. 10 for $100 back in the mid to late 70's Fenders.....I still like the larger wider plastic ones-Esse or Blumels. (sp?) and might still have some around. Still have handlebar bags...but like triple cranks more now. More to the OP's question.....My favorite Aluminum frame for long distance riding is a 80's vintage Klein Performance. E-bay might be your friend. But if you can find a good quality....70's vintage steel frame with "European Geometry" 71-72degree headtubes and longer chain stays......you can build on that. Carbon fiber is a tool of the devil. 
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:20:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Dura Ace is a waste of money unless someone is sponsored. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:25:14 PM EDT
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Dura Ace is a waste of money unless someone is sponsored.
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upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Dura Ace is a waste of money unless someone is sponsored.
It isn't my money I ride ultegra......di2 |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:27:30 PM EDT
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What's a good aluminum frame endurance bike to get? With tiagra or 105 components. What kind of riding are you going to do? And how much mileage? What's the absolute limit on your budget? Trek Domane ALR4 Disc...right around $1700 is a great bike. You can upgrade to a carbon frame (non disc brake) for less than $100. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:27:53 PM EDT
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Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. This, I run 6400 as a weekend warrior, good enough. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't my money I ride ultegra......di2 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Dura Ace is a waste of money unless someone is sponsored. It isn't my money I ride ultegra......di2 Don't get me wrong, 105 is for the little people. And Campy is for those that want the very best.  |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:33:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFuji is the best value brand imo I have one of their cheap cx bikes as a backup and it's fun to ride. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Porsches are a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore driver. A Chevy Cruze will be fine. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:39:30 PM EDT
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Porsches are a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore driver. A Chevy Cruze will be fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Porsches are a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore driver. A Chevy Cruze will be fine. I'll let YOU explain that to my wife.
Seriously, though - there's virtually no functional difference between Ultegra and Dura Ace. The latter is just a few ounces lighter, at a huge markup. Unless you are a super-lightweight professional biker, ther likelihood that you would ever actuallY NOTICE the difference is very low. I've ridden with both, and I honesty cannot tell the difference. If driving a Chevy Cruze felt exactly the same as my wife's Panamera, I would agree with you wholeheartedly. But the Panamera is amazing to drive, has 50/50 weight distribution, astonishing brakes, an amazing gearbox and has the nicest interior of any car I have ever been in. Those are all real differences, in performance, comfort, etc., that you experience every time you drive it. Dude Ace vs. Ultegra you would never notice the difference. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:31:37 PM EDT
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You will with 9100. or Red etap.
You can ride a totally sweet bike for under $10k. It keeps you strong, in good health, and out of trouble. There is no better way to spend your money.  |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:33:33 PM EDT
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Endurance or Enduro?
Edit: saw you listed road groups so guessing endurance. Get steel or carbon, aluminum is going to beat you up far too much. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:36:14 PM EDT
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upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Porsches are a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore driver. A Chevy Cruze will be fine. Can't agree on the comparison. My SRAM force shifts equally as well as the red, and costs 1k less at the expense of some weight. Anything over 105 has good reliabilty, just depends on how serious op is. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:38:32 PM EDT
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Can't agree on the comparison. My SRAM force shifts equally as well as the red, and costs 1k less at the expense of some weight. Anything over 105 has good reliabilty, just depends on how serious op is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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upgrade to carbon and dura ace thank me later Dura ace is a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore racer. Ultegra will be fine. Porsches are a waste of money unless someone is a hardcore driver. A Chevy Cruze will be fine. Can't agree on the comparison. My SRAM force shifts equally as well as the red, and costs 1k less at the expense of some weight. Anything over 105 has good reliabilty, just depends on how serious op is. If your shifting isn't electric you are riding a yugo |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:39:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:41:47 PM EDT
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Fuji is the best value brand imo I have one of their cheap cx bikes as a backup and it's fun to ride. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Fuji is the best value brand imo I have one of their cheap cx bikes as a backup and it's fun to ride. Me and my wife have Fuji's. I have an Nevada, and she has an Addy. Been happy with them, I'm going to buy a Tahoe 1.5 or 1.3 sometime soon. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:45:17 PM EDT
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The new Fuji cross bikes are coming out too.
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Posted: 9/25/2016 11:12:45 PM EDT
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Hang around the bike industry long enough and it all comes around again. 70's steel bikes are best bikes... brah. Endurance riding and racing are two different animals but...back in the day our sew-up tires were wider and softer. Clement silk criteriums were what we glued on for long hard rough roads and towards the end of stage races when we were tired. 10 for $100 back in the mid to late 70's Fenders.....I still like the larger wider plastic ones-Esse or Blumels. (sp?) and might still have some around. Still have handlebar bags...but like triple cranks more now. More to the OP's question.....My favorite Aluminum frame for long distance riding is a 80's vintage Klein Performance. E-bay might be your friend. But if you can find a good quality....70's vintage steel frame with "European Geometry" 71-72degree headtubes and longer chain stays......you can build on that. Carbon fiber is a tool of the devil.
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Are you set on aluminum? The following link is the blog of a guy who does endurance rides, including Paris-Brest-Paris every four years. Scroll to the very bottom and read the "Journey of Discovery" postings. They explain what this guy and his friends have discovered works best for endurance rides. They are currently having a broad impact on bicycling via the recent adoption of fatter tires, even by racers. https://janheine.wordpress.com/category/a-journey-of-discovery/page/3/ Hang around the bike industry long enough and it all comes around again. 70's steel bikes are best bikes... brah. Endurance riding and racing are two different animals but...back in the day our sew-up tires were wider and softer. Clement silk criteriums were what we glued on for long hard rough roads and towards the end of stage races when we were tired. 10 for $100 back in the mid to late 70's Fenders.....I still like the larger wider plastic ones-Esse or Blumels. (sp?) and might still have some around. Still have handlebar bags...but like triple cranks more now. More to the OP's question.....My favorite Aluminum frame for long distance riding is a 80's vintage Klein Performance. E-bay might be your friend. But if you can find a good quality....70's vintage steel frame with "European Geometry" 71-72degree headtubes and longer chain stays......you can build on that. Carbon fiber is a tool of the devil.
Bought this French Motobecane in 1977. Mild steel, fully lugged frame. It's not the one I ride the most, but it's the one I like the best. 
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Posted: 9/25/2016 11:35:19 PM EDT
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I have one like that too that sits on the trainer. I take it out from time to time. Back then the road bikes could take 30mm tires. Not like a "road" bike today that chokes on 26mm tires.
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