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Posted: 9/26/2016 12:53:08 AM EDT
[#1]
so much want, so much CA cant.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 1:09:29 AM EDT
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I have 1K + rounds through mine with ZERO failures. (all factory mags). I'm talking some messed up, bulged-out reloads that probably weren't even safe to shoot... it eats EVERYTHING.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 2:06:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I picked up the HK 45 in the gunstore a couple of times... The finger grooves don't feel right for me.... The USP feels pretty good. So I'd either have to go with the USP, stop dating Rosie Palmer & her 5 daughters so much so the muscles atrophy...or use my left hand for the same reason.... (I take a size 8 surgical glove) Ken Hackathorn doesn't like groved grips either. Says "they're made for averaged sized hands, but no one has average size hands." I myself think groved grips on the hk45 and ugly. Plus the wisdom that my hands probably wont contour perfectly with those kinds of grips. It's why I'm asking about the USP instead of hk45. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 2:29:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have 1K + rounds through mine with ZERO failures. (all factory mags). I'm talking some messed up, bulged-out reloads that probably weren't even safe to shoot... it eats EVERYTHING. It's basically a downsized mk23 right? Which was tortured to death and shot over 22,000 +p and went for thousands upon thousands of shots whit a malfunction. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 2:52:09 AM EDT
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I have 1K + rounds through mine with ZERO failures. (all factory mags). I'm talking some messed up, bulged-out reloads that probably weren't even safe to shoot... it eats EVERYTHING. I'm at 3,500 with no malfunctions. I love mine. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 3:28:56 AM EDT
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It's one of my grail guns. Need to get one someday.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 3:58:54 AM EDT
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I have a .40 Tactical as my nightstand gun. I changed out the match trigger for LEM so I didn't have to worry about a safety in the dark. I use the 16round 'white mags' without the Jet Funnel so I can still use standard mags. Mounting a light is no big deal, use the GG&G adapter and mount anything. I added adjustable meprolights as well.
Smoothest recoiling .40 I've ever handled. Zero failures of any kind in 8 years and about 5k rounds. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 4:32:55 AM EDT
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http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Boosted_Nelson_Inc/DSC00354.jpg Easy to shoot, accurate, reliable, and sexy. No H&K collection is c omelette without one. http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Boosted_Nelson_Inc/Guns/DSC08111.jpg My H&K collection is far from omelettes
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Posted: 9/26/2016 8:48:12 AM EDT
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Doesn't the USP Tactical .45 have a "match" trigger? I heard the LEM isn't much to crow about, so why even bother with that? Genuinely want to know.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 8:57:22 AM EDT
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Doesn't the USP Tactical .45 have a "match" trigger? I heard the LEM isn't much to crow about, so why even bother with that? Genuinely want to know. Yes. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:01:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't the USP Tactical .45 have a "match" trigger? I heard the LEM isn't much to crow about, so why even bother with that? Genuinely want to know. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:02:16 AM EDT
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I would go for an H&K 45 T. Updated design, same reliability. USP were awesome for their time and are still great if you get them on sale or used. The work HK has done to the ergonomics of the last few generations just takes that rock solid reliability and makes it fit in your hand so much better. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:02:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Loving my USP 9 Tactical. It's a Workhorse buy with confidence. The match grade trigger is amazing and not available on the HK45 or P30 as far as I know. http://<a href=http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y439/WeaponX72/IMG_0014_zpspskgz981.jpg</a>" /> |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:25:13 AM EDT
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Doesn't the USP Tactical .45 have a "match" trigger? I heard the LEM isn't much to crow about, so why even bother with that? Genuinely want to know. Yes, and it's a great trigger at that IMHO. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:32:59 AM EDT
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Ken Hackathorn doesn't like groved grips either. Says "they're made for averaged sized hands, but no one has average size hands." I myself think groved grips on the hk45 and ugly. Plus the wisdom that my hands probably wont contour perfectly with those kinds of grips. It's why I'm asking about the USP instead of hk45. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I picked up the HK 45 in the gunstore a couple of times... The finger grooves don't feel right for me.... The USP feels pretty good. So I'd either have to go with the USP, stop dating Rosie Palmer & her 5 daughters so much so the muscles atrophy...or use my left hand for the same reason.... (I take a size 8 surgical glove) Ken Hackathorn doesn't like groved grips either. Says "they're made for averaged sized hands, but no one has average size hands." I myself think groved grips on the hk45 and ugly. Plus the wisdom that my hands probably wont contour perfectly with those kinds of grips. It's why I'm asking about the USP instead of hk45. I'm grew up on 1911s. I usually hate grooves as well. I'm 6'3 and a big guy and the hk45 is one of the most comfortable pistols I have shot. More comfortable than the usp, which is still a blast. The key with the hk45 is choosing the right back strap. It changes the hand position more than you think. Either way both guns are awesome. And both suppress very well. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:33:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Loving my USP 9 Tactical. It's a Workhorse buy with confidence. The match grade trigger is amazing and not available on the HK45 or P30 as far as I know. http://<a href=http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y439/WeaponX72/IMG_0014_zpspskgz981.jpg</a>" /> The the USP 9-T have a match trigger that comes with it? Just like the USP 45-T? I looked up the descriptions and didn't see it mentioning a match grade trigger in the 9mm variant. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:36:03 AM EDT
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The the USP 9-T have a match trigger that comes with it? Just like the USP 45-T? I looked up the descriptions and didn't see it mentioning a match grade trigger in the 9mm variant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Loving my USP 9 Tactical. It's a Workhorse buy with confidence. The match grade trigger is amazing and not available on the HK45 or P30 as far as I know. http://<a href=http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y439/WeaponX72/IMG_0014_zpspskgz981.jpg</a>" /> The the USP 9-T have a match trigger that comes with it? Just like the USP 45-T? I looked up the descriptions and didn't see it mentioning a match grade trigger in the 9mm variant. The new models do. 2015+ models. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:42:32 AM EDT
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It has a match trigger. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doesn't the USP Tactical .45 have a "match" trigger? I heard the LEM isn't much to crow about, so why even bother with that? Genuinely want to know. No, the USP Tac does not have the complete match trigger. At least, not more recent manufacture ones. It has some parts of it, but not all the parts necessary for the true match trigger. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:51:16 AM EDT
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My H&K collection is far from omelettes Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Boosted_Nelson_Inc/DSC00354.jpg Easy to shoot, accurate, reliable, and sexy. No H&K collection is c omelette without one. http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Boosted_Nelson_Inc/Guns/DSC08111.jpg My H&K collection is far from omelettes 
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Posted: 9/26/2016 10:52:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's basically a downsized mk23 right? Which was tortured to death and shot over 22,000 +p and went for thousands upon thousands of shots whit a malfunction. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have 1K + rounds through mine with ZERO failures. (all factory mags). I'm talking some messed up, bulged-out reloads that probably weren't even safe to shoot... it eats EVERYTHING. It's basically a downsized mk23 right? Which was tortured to death and shot over 22,000 +p and went for thousands upon thousands of shots whit a malfunction. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:35:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HK does recommend changing the recoil spring every so often if you're shooting suppressed. I don't remember what the round count on that is. I'm probably due. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have 1K + rounds through mine with ZERO failures. (all factory mags). I'm talking some messed up, bulged-out reloads that probably weren't even safe to shoot... it eats EVERYTHING. It's basically a downsized mk23 right? Which was tortured to death and shot over 22,000 +p and went for thousands upon thousands of shots whit a malfunction. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 7:58:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Bump
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Posted: 9/26/2016 7:59:37 PM EDT
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Bump Bump what? Just buy one and be done with it 
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Posted: 9/26/2016 8:39:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bump what? Just buy one and be done with it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bump Bump what? Just buy one and be done with it An invitation? |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:16:58 PM EDT
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Bump I know where there is a like new used one for sale in Michigan. Price is a bit better than new. Let me know if you are interested. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:21:54 PM EDT
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Had one, loved it. Sold it. I'm a dumbass. Same 
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:45:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:59:57 PM EDT
[#28]
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The new models do. 2015+ models. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Loving my USP 9 Tactical. It's a Workhorse buy with confidence. The match grade trigger is amazing and not available on the HK45 or P30 as far as I know. http://<a href=http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y439/WeaponX72/IMG_0014_zpspskgz981.jpg</a>" /> The the USP 9-T have a match trigger that comes with it? Just like the USP 45-T? I looked up the descriptions and didn't see it mentioning a match grade trigger in the 9mm variant. The new models do. 2015+ models. Correct. Up until the 2015+ models there wasn't a true 9 Tac being made. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 10:26:14 PM EDT
[#29]
LOVE mine. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 10:29:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Up until the 2015+ models there wasn't a true 9 Tac being made. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The new models do. 2015+ models. Correct. Up until the 2015+ models there wasn't a true 9 Tac being made. How do you get the latest model? Buying directly from HK? |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 10:32:43 PM EDT
[#31]
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Thinking it'd make an outstanding nightstand/HD pistol. I'm curious as to people's opinions on THIS pistol, and if they like it. Nice gun made by 1 of the top 2 gun manufacturers, Sig/HK (imo). Just not universally ergonomic. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 10:40:43 PM EDT
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How do you get the latest model? Buying directly from HK? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The new models do. 2015+ models. Correct. Up until the 2015+ models there wasn't a true 9 Tac being made. How do you get the latest model? Buying directly from HK? The earlier 9mm were called the USP 9mm SD. It had no match trigger components. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:00:00 PM EDT
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I have a USP 45 tactical and have used my buddies HK45 tactical. I prefer the USP, ergos are worse, but the trigger is lightyears better and I would rather have the trigger. The USP is in my opinion one of the finest handgun designs of all time.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:01:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The earlier 9mm were called the USP 9mm SD. It had no match trigger components. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The new models do. 2015+ models. Correct. Up until the 2015+ models there wasn't a true 9 Tac being made. How do you get the latest model? Buying directly from HK? The earlier 9mm were called the USP 9mm SD. It had no match trigger components. Ohhh. So it'll have "Tactical" in the name. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:03:11 PM EDT
[#35]
I would love to be into HK hipster pistols, but that magazine release and proprietary threaded barrels are deal breakers.
They are excellent pistols though! |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:09:14 PM EDT
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I would love to be into HK hipster pistols, but that magazine release and proprietary threaded barrels are deal breakers.
They are excellent pistols though! Other guns like walther come with paddle mag releases Also many european guns have 13.5x1 LH threaded barrels INCLUDING my factory glock barrel. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:15:27 PM EDT
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The paddle mag release is easy to get used to. My P2000 is my only pistol with it and I don't have a problem switching back and forth.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:17:47 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would love to be into HK hipster pistols, but that magazine release and proprietary threaded barrels are deal breakers. They are excellent pistols though! I think the issue of the magazine release would be there for someone who's shot 1911s, Sigs and such all their life. But for me, who has relatively little experience on pistols, I could get very used to it. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:20:44 PM EDT
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I would love to be into HK hipster pistols, but that magazine release and proprietary threaded barrels are deal breakers.
They are excellent pistols though! Those things you call deal breakers are more like features
Metric 13.5x1LH (9mm) and 16x1LH (.45) threading is in no way proprietary and arguably better than 1/2x28RH or .578x28RH Maybe you're thinking of the MK23 that uses a 16x1RH. Even then if you spend $2k on a pistol and $1k on a suppressor what's a few bucks for another piston? And I like the paddle release a lot. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:28:26 PM EDT
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It's a great 45acp launching platform. A little bit YUGE by modern standards, but I like it!
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:36:00 PM EDT
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I grew up shooting the USP platform, then dabbled in1911's, and Glocks before returning to H&K. Boring reliability and the magazine release is awesome. If you can't train yourself to get used to it, You probably cannot walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. Go for it.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:37:30 PM EDT
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Sucks
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:43:26 PM EDT
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The only .40 cal pistol I own is a police trade-in USP I got from AIM a few years back. I put a factory threaded barrel in it to use an Silencer Co Octane .45 suppressor. It's a great gun but I like my HK45 Compact Tactical more due to the sights and standard rail.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:45:14 PM EDT
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Sucks LOL |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:48:10 PM EDT
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Those things you call deal breakers are more like features
Metric 13.5x1LH (9mm) and 16x1LH (.45) threading is in no way proprietary and arguably better than 1/2x28RH or .578x28RH Maybe you're thinking of the MK23 that uses a 16x1RH. Even then if you spend $2k on a pistol and $1k on a suppressor what's a few bucks for another piston? And I like the paddle release a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would love to be into HK hipster pistols, but that magazine release and proprietary threaded barrels are deal breakers.
They are excellent pistols though! Those things you call deal breakers are more like features
Metric 13.5x1LH (9mm) and 16x1LH (.45) threading is in no way proprietary and arguably better than 1/2x28RH or .578x28RH Maybe you're thinking of the MK23 that uses a 16x1RH. Even then if you spend $2k on a pistol and $1k on a suppressor what's a few bucks for another piston? And I like the paddle release a lot. I guess I was referring to the LH euro spec threads....I run the standard RH, silencerco barrels on my mk25, and G21 and hate swapping out pistons. But I see your point about just buying another piston. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:48:43 PM EDT
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My daily CCW is a full-sized USP 45 with match trigger (that trigger reset spring is a nasty little bitch to install). I'm a larger guy so it conceals well under my suit and tie, and shoots like a dream for me. I'll get a tactical when I come across a good deal on one, as it's on my want and not my need list.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:50:07 PM EDT
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Thinking it'd make an outstanding nightstand/HD pistol. I'm curious as to people's opinions on THIS pistol, and if they like it. Great gun, shoots 45 Super/ 450SMC without any modification (if getting the 45cal). Trigger kinda sux on USPs, I suggest the LEM trigger (5.5lb DAO). They also have a match trigger, haven't used that. The out-of-the-box trigger bow is plastic, and flexes just a touch. Also, stock DA trigger pull is heavy, but SA after that is OK. Mags are TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE!!!!!! Full Size requires a big hand, Compact Tactical is pretty much perfect for normal people. smaller grip makes the heavy DA pull a lot more bearable. That said, I still love my full-size in 45ACP. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:51:39 PM EDT
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If it was the 80s, cool gun.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:56:06 PM EDT
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Ever gripped a P320? Holy hell. Comfort. I carry one at work. Honestly, the best duty pistol I've ever carried. And freakishly accurate. Trigger reminds me of my match 1911. 
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:57:48 PM EDT
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If it was the 80s, cool gun. I think you mean since the 90s. (It didn't exist in the 80s, and it continues to be cool to this day.  )
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