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Link Posted: 9/27/2016 1:12:40 AM EDT
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Is it true the owner was driving the truck?


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This is odd.  As noted on another page originally an employee loaned the truck to the driver that night.

Now it is the owner who was driving?  Didn't they post an apology (which I cannot find) that said it was someone else involved?

Maybe I missed where it was proven who did what and other than the response in blue to my questions, it still seems like there are inconsistencies...and not trivial ones.
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 2:50:14 AM EDT
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Well, there was them olden days before common law came into it's own. Then their was until just a few years ago, where criminal courts pretty much had that whole monopoly on violence thing, and the civil courts handled the not so criminal thing.

What this Ahole did was certainly illegal, and any civil issues are between WOW and coldair.  Everyone in that truck and the owners of that truck did a shitty thing, and his business suffered probably irreversible harm because of it. Price to be paid for those actions.

I guess I'm just saddened. Yes, this happened to a Republican supporter; a member here on Arfcom for goodness sake! But in today's world the the courts and coldair have no say when enough is enough. This act was illegal, but once the genie is out of the bottle it goes from a bad recommendation, and maybe the local paper to something else. People are either eventually going to let it go, or hound the perpetrator well beyond what anyone would have thought sane 10 years ago. The power of when enough is enough is no longer decided by the state or victim, but by social justice warriors. Those words may sting to some, but just because a member here was the one victimized or we happen to believe in this cause doesn't mean a rose by any other name isn't a rose.

I hate to sound like I'm sympathizing, because I'm really not. Just reflecting on the world we now live in where some people don't believe in second chances and that's just not the kind of person I am. The internet lives forever, and it's a brutal world.
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Thank God I did all my stupid shit before the internet.

As someone above me said, the internet is brutal.



Actually, it's just an evolution of what used to happen.

Used to be, if you stole another man's property, and pissed on his stuff to show dominance/disrespect, you got your ass beat or you got killed.

This was judged to be extreme and laws were passed prohibiting such things.

This is the modern day version of an ass beating culminating in the potential death of this business.

Personally, I prefer the old way. Much more direct, and manners were taught. Harshly, but they were still taught. One can legitimately argue that had these morons had their asses kicked earlier in life for doing stupid shit, this wouldnt have happened at all.

I think coldair has handled this perfectly, probably better than I would have handled it.

Man's a damn genius...


Well, there was them olden days before common law came into it's own. Then their was until just a few years ago, where criminal courts pretty much had that whole monopoly on violence thing, and the civil courts handled the not so criminal thing.

What this Ahole did was certainly illegal, and any civil issues are between WOW and coldair.  Everyone in that truck and the owners of that truck did a shitty thing, and his business suffered probably irreversible harm because of it. Price to be paid for those actions.

I guess I'm just saddened. Yes, this happened to a Republican supporter; a member here on Arfcom for goodness sake! But in today's world the the courts and coldair have no say when enough is enough. This act was illegal, but once the genie is out of the bottle it goes from a bad recommendation, and maybe the local paper to something else. People are either eventually going to let it go, or hound the perpetrator well beyond what anyone would have thought sane 10 years ago. The power of when enough is enough is no longer decided by the state or victim, but by social justice warriors. Those words may sting to some, but just because a member here was the one victimized or we happen to believe in this cause doesn't mean a rose by any other name isn't a rose.

I hate to sound like I'm sympathizing, because I'm really not. Just reflecting on the world we now live in where some people don't believe in second chances and that's just not the kind of person I am. The internet lives forever, and it's a brutal world.



You make very valid points and I agree completely. More reasons I prefer the old way.
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 9:18:07 AM EDT
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Another aspect that I must have missed....was the mailbox decontaminated or replaced?

I just finished restaining my wood mail box support and painting the mailbox.  Someone would have to properly clean mine....maybe replace it if they were caught urinating on it.
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 4:56:27 PM EDT
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Saw it on my local news across alligator alley Ch 10 South FL





You're so famous you're in-famous


 
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 5:06:33 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to get law enforcement involved now to positively determine who participated...


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We did that like 5 minutes after the pissing occurred
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 8:56:22 PM EDT
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Oh I have a video of them apologizing and shaking my hand the next day so I know exactly who did it. I could tell they were decent guys that just screwed up and were truly sorry, not sorry they got caught. I won't post that video as I don't want anymore harm to come to the them or the owners of the company. BTW the owners have taken care of the yard work of the neighbor that has fallen on hard times and even went a step farther and told her they would be back every week to keep it in shape.
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Oh I have a video of them apologizing and shaking my hand the next day so I know exactly who did it. I could tell they were decent guys that just screwed up and were truly sorry, not sorry they got caught. I won't post that video as I don't want anymore harm to come to the them or the owners of the company. BTW the owners have taken care of the yard work of the neighbor that has fallen on hard times and even went a step farther and told her they would be back every week to keep it in shape.

 




Double cheers.
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 10:32:16 PM EDT
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Oh I have a video of them apologizing and shaking my hand the next day so I know exactly who did it. I could tell they were decent guys that just screwed up and were truly sorry, not sorry they got caught. I won't post that video as I don't want anymore harm to come to the them or the owners of the company. BTW the owners have taken care of the yard work of the neighbor that has fallen on hard times and even went a step farther and told her they would be back every week to keep it in shape.
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You, Sir, are a good man.
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 10:38:09 PM EDT
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You, Sir, are a good man.
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Oh I have a video of them apologizing and shaking my hand the next day so I know exactly who did it. I could tell they were decent guys that just screwed up and were truly sorry, not sorry they got caught. I won't post that video as I don't want anymore harm to come to the them or the owners of the company. BTW the owners have taken care of the yard work of the neighbor that has fallen on hard times and even went a step farther and told her they would be back every week to keep it in shape.


You, Sir, are a good man.


I will vouch for this.





 
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Link Posted: 9/27/2016 11:09:53 PM EDT
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Oh I have a video of them apologizing and shaking my hand the next day so I know exactly who did it. I could tell they were decent guys that just screwed up and were truly sorry, not sorry they got caught. I won't post that video as I don't want anymore harm to come to the them or the owners of the company. BTW the owners have taken care of the yard work of the neighbor that has fallen on hard times and even went a step farther and told her they would be back every week to keep it in shape.
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Well done.
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 11:17:43 PM EDT
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I have been to coldair's residence, and I've seen his surveillance system.  His protections go far beyond just cameras - and his privacy requires me to stop there.  I will tell the world this:  There isn't a way you can get near coldair's property without getting caught, god help you if you try... unless you're invited.
Coldair is a good man, with a camera system that (among many other things) protects the neighborhood children from being killed by speeding drivers.  It also happens to protect his and his neighbors from vandalism or worse.  He has, by far, put more thought, infrastructure, and money into a residential surveillance system than I've ever seen - and I've seen plenty.  Youtube doesn't do justice to the resolution and frame rates he runs.
If you mean to do harm to Mr. Coldair, that would be a very, very bad idea.
There is a security forum here at: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_6/46_.html
It's time for this topic to die, it's over.






 

 
Link Posted: 9/27/2016 11:21:53 PM EDT
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I am so glad I was on when this video was posted . over 66000 views on liveleak
Link Posted: 10/2/2016 1:59:47 PM EDT
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I am so glad I was on when this video was posted . over 66000 views on liveleak
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It was a rather epic evening.
Link Posted: 10/2/2016 6:28:59 PM EDT
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Epic!
Link Posted: 10/2/2016 6:32:50 PM EDT
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Oh I have a video of them apologizing and shaking my hand the next day so I know exactly who did it. I could tell they were decent guys that just screwed up and were truly sorry, not sorry they got caught. I won't post that video as I don't want anymore harm to come to the them or the owners of the company. BTW the owners have taken care of the yard work of the neighbor that has fallen on hard times and even went a step farther and told her they would be back every week to keep it in shape.
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Yeah...... I probably would have passed on that part, if ya know what I mean.



Link Posted: 10/2/2016 11:40:40 PM EDT
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Yeah...... I probably would have passed on that part, if ya know what I mean.



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Oh I have a video of them apologizing and shaking my hand the next day so I know exactly who did it. I could tell they were decent guys that just screwed up and were truly sorry, not sorry they got caught. I won't post that video as I don't want anymore harm to come to the them or the owners of the company. BTW the owners have taken care of the yard work of the neighbor that has fallen on hard times and even went a step farther and told her they would be back every week to keep it in shape.



Yeah...... I probably would have passed on that part, if ya know what I mean.







They were likely laughing all the way home...


Link Posted: 10/4/2016 12:02:07 PM EDT
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I'll second that motion.

Glad these clowns learned a lesson and are trying to make things right.
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Oh I have a video of them apologizing and shaking my hand the next day so I know exactly who did it. I could tell they were decent guys that just screwed up and were truly sorry, not sorry they got caught. I won't post that video as I don't want anymore harm to come to the them or the owners of the company. BTW the owners have taken care of the yard work of the neighbor that has fallen on hard times and even went a step farther and told her they would be back every week to keep it in shape.

You, Sir, are a good man.

I will vouch for this.

 


I'll second that motion.

Glad these clowns learned a lesson and are trying to make things right.

sometimes it takes a good smack upside the head to make some folks start thinking straight.
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