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Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:50:15 PM EDT
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bums start brush fires, brush fires spread and burn houses.
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Those dudes rolled heavy to get a bum off a hill.




bums start brush fires, brush fires spread and burn houses.




 
So do wealthy, granola crunching hikers. We should shoot them too, especially the ones menacing police with titanium sporks and dual weilding ultralight chopsticks.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:50:46 PM EDT
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What fuckery.

1. Dude packs up his shit and starts leaving, hands busy with bags
2. LEO pop off a flashbang or something and sic the dog on dude
3. Dude panics thinking his nuts are about to get munched, drops his bags, possibly pulls a small blade
4. LEO scream for him to go prone, recall the K9
5. Just as he tries to get on the ground, he's perforated in the back

I'm thinking at least a couple people on-scene should be in jail, while anyone in charge of their training should be fired
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While the shoot is questionable, other people on scene should go to jail just for being there?

GD is full of the dumbest fucking comments in relation to a lot of shit, especially anything regarding Police.

Fucking stupid
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:51:22 PM EDT
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Good. The legality of that shooting should be decided by a jury. Every shooting should ideally, but shits all retarded, and has gotten a lot more retarded in the few years it took this case to get to trial.  This case should have been done in 6 months. Fucking drug cases and petty crime should take a back seat to cases of homicide and such.

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Nebraska has a pretty good system. Any LE shooting goes before a Grand Jury to decide whether or not it merits a trial.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:51:35 PM EDT
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I remember this case.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:52:05 PM EDT
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bums start brush fires, brush fires spread and burn houses.
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bums start brush fires, brush fires spread and burn houses.


Which creates more homeless people. It's a brutal cycle.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:53:04 PM EDT
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Only thing I'll say is just because you can legally shoot someone, doesn't mean it's the right solution to the problem every time.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:53:10 PM EDT
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bums start brush fires, brush fires spread and burn houses.

Pre-crime division gets first dibs on Coperator gear?
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:57:29 PM EDT
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This.

Bad shoot.  In no way does the guy possess an immediate threat?  And the shotgun to the ass after being shot was a bit over the top.  Sending the dog to gnaw on his leg was borderline gestapo shit.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:58:23 PM EDT
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Yeah that was bullshit the guy was packing up and complying they didn't need to flashbang him bunch of trigger happy assholes
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:58:39 PM EDT
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This.



Bad shoot.  In no way does the guy possess an immediate threat?  And the shotgun to the ass after being shot was a bit over the top.  Sending the dog to gnaw on his leg was borderline gestapo shit.
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Lol seriously. WTF.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:59:07 PM EDT
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While the shoot is questionable, other people on scene should go to jail just for being there?

GD is full of the dumbest fucking comments in relation to a lot of shit, especially anything regarding Police.

Fucking stupid
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What fuckery.

1. Dude packs up his shit and starts leaving, hands busy with bags
2. LEO pop off a flashbang or something and sic the dog on dude
3. Dude panics thinking his nuts are about to get munched, drops his bags, possibly pulls a small blade
4. LEO scream for him to go prone, recall the K9
5. Just as he tries to get on the ground, he's perforated in the back

I'm thinking at least a couple people on-scene should be in jail, while anyone in charge of their training should be fired

While the shoot is questionable, other people on scene should go to jail just for being there?

GD is full of the dumbest fucking comments in relation to a lot of shit, especially anything regarding Police.

Fucking stupid


My cop didn't du nuffin
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:59:35 PM EDT
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Jeez.  I remember when New Mexico cops were content just banging women on their cruiser hood.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 6:59:57 PM EDT
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What fuckery.

1. Dude packs up his shit and starts leaving, hands busy with bags
2. LEO pop off a flashbang or something and sic the dog on dude
3. Dude panics thinking his nuts are about to get munched, drops his bags, possibly pulls a small blade
4. LEO scream for him to go prone, recall the K9
5. Just as he tries to get on the ground, he's perforated in the back

I'm thinking at least a couple people on-scene should be in jail, while anyone in charge of their training should be fired
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If the jury asks themselves,*what happens if the cops don't throw a flash bang and release the dog?* the cops are going to jail.

Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:02:27 PM EDT
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Friend of mine was on one of those about 10 years ago or so



The kid that got shot had an 38 revolver that was way out of time

Left firing pin marks on a few rims but never actually hit a primer



He was amazed at how a couple people could not comprehend that

and thought since the gun did/could not fire the trooper should not have shot the guy



 
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:03:13 PM EDT
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Good. The legality of that shooting should be decided by a jury. Every shooting should ideally, but shits all retarded, and has gotten a lot more retarded in the few years it took this case to get to trial.  This case should have been done in 6 months. Fucking drug cases and petty crime should take a back seat to cases of homicide and such.




Nebraska has a pretty good system. Any LE shooting goes before a Grand Jury to decide whether or not it merits a trial.


Georgia has that going on and finally (mostly) fixed some screwed up procedures we had for officers. They're still not quite the same as normal grand juries, but better.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:04:40 PM EDT
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Simple,

He traded his house for it at the height of the panic after newtown.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:07:54 PM EDT
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Lol seriously. WTF.
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This.

Bad shoot.  In no way does the guy possess an immediate threat?  And the shotgun to the ass after being shot was a bit over the top.  Sending the dog to gnaw on his leg was borderline gestapo shit.
Lol seriously. WTF.


If the dag was hungry I'd understand.  Exterminating hobos is hard work.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:08:38 PM EDT
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Bad shoot.  In no way does the guy possess an immediate threat?  And the shotgun to the ass after being shot was a bit over the top.  Sending the dog to gnaw on his leg was borderline gestapo shit.
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Their use of force went Rifle -> Beanbag -> Dog.  That in itself is retarded.  

They had three less than lethal options beanbag shotgun, dog, and tazer.  Instead they went straight to lethal force.

There is no way that dude could have gotten down those rocks with his tiny knife to hurt anyone before they could have beanbagged him.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:15:16 PM EDT
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He had 2 knives in his hands.

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And?

See, I get pissed off about the whole "unarmed (whatever) man" thing because that phrase essentially claims that you have to be armed to be a threat, and we all know that's not true. And it also implies that it's somehow OK to shoot armed people when they aren't acting in a threatening manner.

The cops are on rather rocky but otherwise open ground and they have ARs. Homeless guy is out camping, of course he has a knife or two on him, wouldn't you?

From a tactical standpoint, you have zero reason to close within knife range of that guy until he is on the ground, assuming that's how you think this situation needed to be resolved. If the guy can't charge you and get to you with those knives then he's not a threat.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:18:40 PM EDT
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Yeah cause a crazy man with knifes with a history of threatening people on private property that wasn't his should be left to be own devices.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:19:53 PM EDT
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I'm going with cop is guilty as hell on this one and I hope he gets everything he deserves.

Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:20:40 PM EDT
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Yeah cause a crazy man with knifes with a history of threatening people on private property that wasn't his should be left to be own devices.
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Good thing they got that homeless person camping in the middle of nowhere not bothering anybody hardened criminal off the streets...

Yeah cause a crazy man with knifes with a history of threatening people on private property that wasn't his should be left to be own devices.


Lots of folks haven't brushed up on the details. I'm figuring they'll be acquitted.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:20:55 PM EDT
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wow


Where are the WLM protests?
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:21:56 PM EDT
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He had 2 knives in his hands.

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There is a vocal subset that believes when the police encounter an armed person committing a crime, and the person refuses to drop his weapons and surrender, the police should just leave.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:29:02 PM EDT
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Shitty police work.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:35:24 PM EDT
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Who threatened to stab several people on the nearby walking path, hence why LE was called
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:35:56 PM EDT
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Can you elaborate?  I haven't heard that before.
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He had 2 knives in his hands.

Maybe people aren't watching the video.
This is true...dude did duel wield two knives pre shoot.  

The locker room talk is what got these guys in trouble.....not just the shoot.
 



Can you elaborate?  I haven't heard that before.

It's right in the video
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:38:48 PM EDT
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  One of the shooters was recorded on his belt tape (or someone else's, I don't recall) saying he was going to shoot the guy in the dick.
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He had 2 knives in his hands.

Maybe people aren't watching the video.
This is true...dude did duel wield two knives pre shoot.  

The locker room talk is what got these guys in trouble.....not just the shoot.
 



Can you elaborate?  I haven't heard that before.

  One of the shooters was recorded on his belt tape (or someone else's, I don't recall) saying he was going to shoot the guy in the dick.

Oddly enough, that is exactly where many in the St clout terrorist thread are saying the cop should have shot that knife wielding bad guy.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:42:51 PM EDT
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Hey, if you're gonna take my hobbies away don't be surprised when I start new ones
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:42:54 PM EDT
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This also occurred about the same time that the USDOJ investigation of APD was wrapping up.

APD got their collective dick's slapped hard...


The report talked about how the APD had a "gun culture".  APD ended up changing the rules on what kinds of guns cops could carry and qual with because of it.




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Cops are fucked because of media bias regardless of opinion. I am surprised they didn't move trial out of state.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:43:06 PM EDT
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While the shoot is questionable, other people on scene should go to jail just for being there?

GD is full of the dumbest fucking comments in relation to a lot of shit, especially anything regarding Police.

Fucking stupid
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What fuckery.

1. Dude packs up his shit and starts leaving, hands busy with bags
2. LEO pop off a flashbang or something and sic the dog on dude
3. Dude panics thinking his nuts are about to get munched, drops his bags, possibly pulls a small blade
4. LEO scream for him to go prone, recall the K9
5. Just as he tries to get on the ground, he's perforated in the back

I'm thinking at least a couple people on-scene should be in jail, while anyone in charge of their training should be fired

While the shoot is questionable, other people on scene should go to jail just for being there?

GD is full of the dumbest fucking comments in relation to a lot of shit, especially anything regarding Police.

Fucking stupid


Unless the shooter was behind all the dumb shit that happened (flashbang, K9, bean bag, overall command of the clusterfuck), he's not the only one guilty.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:43:46 PM EDT
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Hey, if you're gonna take my hobbies away don't be surprised when I start new ones
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Jeez.  I remember when New Mexico cops were content just banging women on their cruiser hood.


Hey, if you're gonna take my hobbies away don't be surprised when I start new ones


Lol nice
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:44:25 PM EDT
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Those cops are pussies.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:46:43 PM EDT
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yeah we did this one - the PD also escalated the situation unnecessarily - and notice how the dead guy wasnt coming at anyone in fact he had turned away from them so yeah.. looks like way too much force to me.. apparently the DA agrees.

Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:49:36 PM EDT
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Who threatened to stab several people on the nearby walking path, hence why LE was called
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Those dudes rolled heavy to get a bum off a hill.


Who threatened to stab several people on the nearby walking path, hence why LE was called
So, light him up while he is collecting his things. Those guys are fucking heroes.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:50:53 PM EDT
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So, light him up while he is collecting his things. Those guys are fucking heroes.
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Those dudes rolled heavy to get a bum off a hill.

Who threatened to stab several people on the nearby walking path, hence why LE was called
So, light him up while he is collecting his things. Those guys are fucking heroes.

No, try to place him under arrest and respond with force when he resists with lethal force.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:56:13 PM EDT
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See boys, this is why you always carry a little crack to sprinkle on them...
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:56:40 PM EDT
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No, try to place him under arrest and respond with force when he resists with lethal force.
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Those dudes rolled heavy to get a bum off a hill.

Who threatened to stab several people on the nearby walking path, hence why LE was called
So, light him up while he is collecting his things. Those guys are fucking heroes.

No, try to place him under arrest and respond with force when he resists with lethal force.


Lol. You guys will argue about anything.

Cop murdered hobo, cop will be going to prison. This isn't complicated.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:57:51 PM EDT
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Those dudes rolled heavy to get a bum off a hill.

Who threatened to stab several people on the nearby walking path, hence why LE was called
So, light him up while he is collecting his things. Those guys are fucking heroes.

No, try to place him under arrest and respond with force when he resists with lethal force.



Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:58:31 PM EDT
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What fuckery.

1. Dude packs up his shit and starts leaving, hands busy with bags
2. LEO pop off a flashbang or something and sic the dog on dude
3. Dude panics thinking his nuts are about to get munched, drops his bags, possibly pulls a small blade
4. LEO scream for him to go prone, recall the K9
5. Just as he tries to get on the ground, he's perforated in the back

I'm thinking at least a couple people on-scene should be in jail, while anyone in charge of their training should be fired
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Thats what i saw in the vid.

His back was to the officers when the shooting started.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 7:59:11 PM EDT
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In my 6+ yrs former experience working in the mental health arena, police dealing with mental illness is a mixed bag, but often less than adequate at times.  That said, the guy had knives, & if he was going for it, well, time's up at that point.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 8:01:39 PM EDT
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  So do wealthy, granola crunching hikers. We should shoot them too, especially the ones menacing police with titanium sporks and dual weilding ultralight chopsticks.
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Those dudes rolled heavy to get a bum off a hill.


bums start brush fires, brush fires spread and burn houses.

  So do wealthy, granola crunching hikers. We should shoot them too, especially the ones menacing police with titanium sporks and dual weilding ultralight chopsticks.



this is true, but granola crunching hikers generally won't stand there with knives for several hours threatening to stab you.

Link Posted: 9/19/2016 8:03:54 PM EDT
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Saw this video when it happened.

I don't know if it was justified or not but I will say that it's standard procedure to NOT send your dog in to die against someone wielding a knife.

Link Posted: 9/19/2016 8:04:56 PM EDT
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this is true, but granola crunching hikers generally won't stand there with knives for several hours threatening to stab you.

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bums start brush fires, brush fires spread and burn houses.

  So do wealthy, granola crunching hikers. We should shoot them too, especially the ones menacing police with titanium sporks and dual weilding ultralight chopsticks.



this is true, but granola crunching hikers generally won't stand there with knives for several hours threatening to stab you.




So when you get bored the best bet is to escalate the situation and GET IT ON!!! Right?

After telling your buddies you are going to shoot him. lol
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 8:05:53 PM EDT
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This is true...dude did duel wield two knives pre shoot.  

The locker room talk is what got these guys in trouble.....not just the shoot.
 
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This is true...dude did duel wield two knives pre shoot.  

The locker room talk is what got these guys in trouble.....not just the shoot.
 


+1

Dude's mouf is what should land him in trouble.  Bragging about wanting to shoot a dude, then it happens probably isn't coincidence.
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 8:09:10 PM EDT
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Who threatened to stab several people on the nearby walking path, hence why LE was called
So, light him up while he is collecting his things. Those guys are fucking heroes.

No, try to place him under arrest and respond with force when he resists with lethal force.


I suppose if the goal is to create situations in which one must kill people your attitude would be ideal.
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The only thing more dangerous then a homeless man is a homeless man with a knife. i am sure it was a good shot I wonder if the cop is gonna get a tactical prison jumpsuit. I still think they should of had the m203's attached
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What fuckery.

1. Dude packs up his shit and starts leaving, hands busy with bags
2. LEO pop off a flashbang or something and sic the dog on dude
3. Dude panics thinking his nuts are about to get munched, drops his bags, possibly pulls a small blade
4. LEO scream for him to go prone, recall the K9
5. Just as he tries to get on the ground, he's perforated in the back

I'm thinking at least a couple people on-scene should be in jail, while anyone in charge of their training should be fired
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Wow someone in GD with common sense this is scary
Link Posted: 9/19/2016 8:14:57 PM EDT
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I am convinced if a cop shot some of you guys moms with a roll of bread in her hands. some of you would take the stand defending the cop.
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