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Posted: 8/28/2016 3:43:40 PM EDT
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Oh lord....go outside every once in a while and learn some shit  My head is sun burnt from going outside. #NoThanks. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 3:47:53 PM EDT
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I can recommend a hanging gong.
either drill some 2x4 sections at angles and use rebar to support it or use an MOA a-frame stand 
using conduit tubing is my preferred method, it's light, easy to cut, shrugs off bullet frag, and is super cheap if you need it heavier or if you decide to set it up and leave it, black gas pipes are heavier but will hold a massive target. the heavy tubing helps keep the target very stable under rapid fire, which can set other target stands to bucking hard. it's my favorite setup for precision shooting if you get one of the tab mounted targets, put a couple of deck screws in there if you hit hard and fast 
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Posted: 8/28/2016 3:49:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2016 3:50:59 PM EDT
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Look at the edges of the pic above. Laser, plasma, or flame cut is going to lose a little of it's temper around the heat affected zone. The only way around that is water jet. Which I've never seen from a steel target manufacturer. ETA: Besides, you are back peddling from your original statement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you dont want anything special or fancy I'd go to the local welding shop. Soft steel is a bad choice 
You can order AR500 steel from just about any small shop. They can even cut it for you. Yes you can but unless you buy a full 4x8 sheet of it you will not be close to MOA's prices also if not cut properly you will lose the heat treat all around the edge Look at the edges of the pic above. Laser, plasma, or flame cut is going to lose a little of it's temper around the heat affected zone. The only way around that is water jet. Which I've never seen from a steel target manufacturer. ETA: Besides, you are back peddling from your original statement. I think Tacstrikes targets are water jet cut. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 3:53:21 PM EDT
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I've got their pistol spinner, dueling tree, and a small hanging target. All are awesome! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MOA targets. Yup I've got their pistol spinner, dueling tree, and a small hanging target. All are awesome! MOA Targets are the only ones worth considering. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:00:18 PM EDT
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MOA Targets. All you need. I've shot them. The star, Mozambique, hostage, all worked great.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:07:41 PM EDT
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Or just EDM it, you'll only be able to make one target per day, but man will that edge be nice.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:08:40 PM EDT
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I have some waterjet AR500 targets. A relative of mine runs a big fab shop and gave me some. They cut targets for quite a few people. Cool! Do they sell them or just to you local guys? |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:09:56 PM EDT
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As far as target selection, just call em up and say "I need a target that will frustrate the hell out of me by pointing out the fundamental shortcomings of my technique"
Mitch will be all like "Say no more, fam" |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:13:20 PM EDT
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Wow this is a fickle website! When I asked in Feb Shooting Targets 7 was the goto place. Awesome targets and great service BTW!!!!!
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:15:22 PM EDT
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I have ordered from these guys 3 or 4 times. http://www.shootsteel.com/ I have 5 targets from them they all look nearly as clean cut as water jet, could be laser though. I got a couple from them. Those are laser cut. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:18:21 PM EDT
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As far as target selection, just call em up and say "I need a target that will frustrate the hell out of me by pointing out the fundamental shortcomings of my technique" Mitch will be all like "Say no more, fam" That's why I only got 8' targets.
Of course, I mostly shoot my CCW pistol. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:18:57 PM EDT
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Wow this is a fickle website! When I asked in Feb Shooting Targets 7 was the goto place. Awesome targets and great service BTW!!!!! MOA is a member. I think that's why. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:21:33 PM EDT
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Atlas Target Works - they're members, and also you can see some of my work on their site. I did the logo.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:23:12 PM EDT
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I've got a dueling tree and a snipers paradise from The Target Man. Their free standing portable stands are the shit. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:24:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at the edges of the pic above. Laser, plasma, or flame cut is going to lose a little of it's temper around the heat affected zone. The only way around that is water jet. Which I've never seen from a steel target manufacturer. ETA: Besides, you are back peddling from your original statement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes you can but unless you buy a full 4x8 sheet of it you will not be close to MOA's prices also if not cut properly you will lose the heat treat all around the edge Look at the edges of the pic above. Laser, plasma, or flame cut is going to lose a little of it's temper around the heat affected zone. The only way around that is water jet. Which I've never seen from a steel target manufacturer. ETA: Besides, you are back peddling from your original statement. Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:26:26 PM EDT
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I (MOA) use a laser. Heat affected zone is about 1/32" wide on 3/8". Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:39:28 PM EDT
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Take a look at MGM Targets. https://mgmtargets.com/ Sorry my crappy phone won't let me hotlink.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:40:22 PM EDT
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... support our site sponsors, I do
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:48:34 PM EDT
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Which is negligible. People make a big deal about it still. Now Smiley has no excuse! He got a special snowflake coupon! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:50:00 PM EDT
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I (MOA) use a laser. Heat affected zone is about 1/32" wide on 3/8". Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another WA guy I was shooting with yesterday might be in the market for some targets too, so I'll link him this thread. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:53:44 PM EDT
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JC Steel
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:02:21 PM EDT
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Cool! Do they sell them or just to you local guys? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have some waterjet AR500 targets. A relative of mine runs a big fab shop and gave me some. They cut targets for quite a few people. Cool! Do they sell them or just to you local guys? They will do whatever customers want, but they don't market products for sale. Just services. But they order in sheets of steel, and will sit down with you and design anything you want on their program, and run it on their waterjet. We have by far the biggest customer file full of waterjet drawings, we build a lot of shit. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:35:51 PM EDT
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MOA Targets.
I need to order from them too. Hey, RockMan, what if what you sell would hold up to 8mm Mauser that might be Yugoslavian shit that sticks to magnets
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:37:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool, I got some questions for you. Another WA guy I was shooting with yesterday might be in the market for some targets too, so I'll link him this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes you can but unless you buy a full 4x8 sheet of it you will not be close to MOA's prices also if not cut properly you will lose the heat treat all around the edge Look at the edges of the pic above. Laser, plasma, or flame cut is going to lose a little of it's temper around the heat affected zone. The only way around that is water jet. Which I've never seen from a steel target manufacturer. ETA: Besides, you are back peddling from your original statement. Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. Cool, I got some questions for you. Another WA guy I was shooting with yesterday might be in the market for some targets too, so I'll link him this thread. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:38:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool, I got some questions for you. Another WA guy I was shooting with yesterday might be in the market for some targets too, so I'll link him this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I (MOA) use a laser. Heat affected zone is about 1/32" wide on 3/8". Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. Cool, I got some questions for you. Another WA guy I was shooting with yesterday might be in the market for some targets too, so I'll link him this thread. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:40:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MOA Targets. I need to order from them too. Hey, RockMan, what if what you sell would hold up to 8mm Mauser that might be Yugoslavian shit that sticks to magnets |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:42:38 PM EDT
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I don't recommend it, shooting steel at steel is no bueno. If you insist, don't break any other recommendations like distance and angle. Haven't tested specifically because i don't recommend it, but at 200 yards 3/8 should be fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MOA Targets. I need to order from them too. Hey, RockMan, what if what you sell would hold up to 8mm Mauser that might be Yugoslavian shit that sticks to magnets Might stick to paper and water jugs with the wooden lady then, keep steel limited to the 6.8. Thought you had said similar things at East last year, but you also picked up random rocks in the road and started talking gobbledygook I couldn't understand
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:43:37 PM EDT
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Targetman
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:44:03 PM EDT
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Not Larue's, apparently were not responsible enough to own those.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:50:11 PM EDT
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Ask away, I'll answer. May be bullshit, but I'll answer. Working on a prototype right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I (MOA) use a laser. Heat affected zone is about 1/32" wide on 3/8". Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. Cool, I got some questions for you.
Another WA guy I was shooting with yesterday might be in the market for some targets too, so I'll link him this thread. Do you like Gladiator movies? What's the weight like on the full size ISPC? Do you think having holes is necessary if the plan is to use your mounting bracket? |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:50:49 PM EDT
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Not sure if it's been said yet, but
MOA Targets
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:53:12 PM EDT
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I (MOA) use a laser. Heat affected zone is about 1/32" wide on 3/8". Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/28/2016 5:56:21 PM EDT
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MOA is all I will buy.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:07:47 PM EDT
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I hate MOA. Every time I think I have my order together I find something else on the site to budget for. First I just wanted some .22 rack plates, then I wanted to add a pop quiz. Now I'm putting in a 10 foot shooting tower and thinking about some 300 yard rifle steel.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:20:24 PM EDT
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I shoot 3/8 steel from inside 25 yards with magnetic rifle bullets all day long. No issues.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:20:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you like Gladiator movies? What's the weight like on the full size ISPC? Do you think having holes is necessary if the plan is to use your mounting bracket? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I (MOA) use a laser. Heat affected zone is about 1/32" wide on 3/8". Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. Cool, I got some questions for you. Another WA guy I was shooting with yesterday might be in the market for some targets too, so I'll link him this thread. Do you like Gladiator movies? What's the weight like on the full size ISPC? Do you think having holes is necessary if the plan is to use your mounting bracket? 32 lbs in 1/4" AR400, 48 lbs in 3/8" AR500, 74 lbs in 1/4" AR500, and 96 lbs in 1" AR500, all standard materials for MOA. No, and I make a super over kill version of the universal bracket for the full size IPSC, basically a triple version. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:21:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can I come barf at your range? It's cathartic. ETA - you said to ask questions |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:27:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I use Shootsteel.com , cool guys working there |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:29:17 PM EDT
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Get a mini-mo from MOA. We were shooting those at Texas this year, good stuff.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:31:28 PM EDT
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Warning: MOA sends dick pics.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:31:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get a mini-mo from MOA. We were shooting those at Texas this year, good stuff. Prototype shooting today.  |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:34:30 PM EDT
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Mitch at MOA fosho. Just don't get them shipped to work
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:38:40 PM EDT
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Yes 32 lbs in 1/4" AR400, 48 lbs in 3/8" AR500, 74 lbs in 1/4" AR500, and 96 lbs in 1" AR500, all standard materials for MOA. No, and I make a super over kill version of the universal bracket for the full size IPSC, basically a triple version. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I (MOA) use a laser. Heat affected zone is about 1/32" wide on 3/8". Still at the range right now. Will chime in this afternoon with a 5% off code, good until tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to order a bunch of steel cut. Figure three weeks turn around. Cool, I got some questions for you.
Another WA guy I was shooting with yesterday might be in the market for some targets too, so I'll link him this thread. Do you like Gladiator movies? What's the weight like on the full size ISPC? Do you think having holes is necessary if the plan is to use your mounting bracket? 32 lbs in 1/4" AR400, 48 lbs in 3/8" AR500, 74 lbs in 1/4" AR500, and 96 lbs in 1" AR500, all standard materials for MOA. No, and I make a super over kill version of the universal bracket for the full size IPSC, basically a triple version. That's not too bad. Would probably still need to lash it up to an Alice pack frame and ruck it to the spot.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:43:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not too bad. Would probably still need to lash it up to an Alice pack frame and ruck it to the spot. At 200-300 yards what thickness would you recommend for 5.56/7.62x39? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ask away, I'll answer. May be bullshit, but I'll answer. Working on a prototype right now. Do you like Gladiator movies? What's the weight like on the full size ISPC? Do you think having holes is necessary if the plan is to use your mounting bracket? 32 lbs in 1/4" AR400, 48 lbs in 3/8" AR500, 74 lbs in 1/4" AR500, and 96 lbs in 1" AR500, all standard materials for MOA. No, and I make a super over kill version of the universal bracket for the full size IPSC, basically a triple version. That's not too bad. Would probably still need to lash it up to an Alice pack frame and ruck it to the spot. At 200-300 yards what thickness would you recommend for 5.56/7.62x39? Your code is SMILEY5 You must be logged into www.moatargets.com to use the code, you enter it in the shopping cart, not at checkout. Should be good for 5% on most stuff on the site. Because it's generally already pretty cheap, it shouldn't (if I set it right) work in the Your First Steel Targets category or Package Deals. Code should work through tomorrow. PS- Smiley is why I made the code, but it's open for anyone to use. Please let me know if it's not working right. I really am a geologist, not a computer nerd. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:51:17 PM EDT
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At 300m, you can go with 1/4" with 556, haven't specifically tested 7.62x39 yet. Closer than 300 you need to use 3/8". Your code is SMILEY5 You must be logged into www.moatargets.com to use the code, you enter it in the shopping cart, not at checkout. Should be good for 5% on most stuff on the site. Because it's generally already pretty cheap, it shouldn't (if I set it right) work in the Your First Steel Targets category or Package Deals. Code should work through tomorrow. PS- Smiley is why I made the code, but it's open for anyone to use. Please let me know if it's not working right. I really am a geologist, not a computer nerd. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask away, I'll answer. May be bullshit, but I'll answer. Working on a prototype right now. Do you like Gladiator movies? What's the weight like on the full size ISPC? Do you think having holes is necessary if the plan is to use your mounting bracket? 32 lbs in 1/4" AR400, 48 lbs in 3/8" AR500, 74 lbs in 1/4" AR500, and 96 lbs in 1" AR500, all standard materials for MOA. No, and I make a super over kill version of the universal bracket for the full size IPSC, basically a triple version. That's not too bad. Would probably still need to lash it up to an Alice pack frame and ruck it to the spot.
At 200-300 yards what thickness would you recommend for 5.56/7.62x39? Your code is SMILEY5 You must be logged into www.moatargets.com to use the code, you enter it in the shopping cart, not at checkout. Should be good for 5% on most stuff on the site. Because it's generally already pretty cheap, it shouldn't (if I set it right) work in the Your First Steel Targets category or Package Deals. Code should work through tomorrow. PS- Smiley is why I made the code, but it's open for anyone to use. Please let me know if it's not working right. I really am a geologist, not a computer nerd. Oh, shit. You really did make a code That's fuckin awesome, thanks man
3/8 it is then. I'll go pester my fellow WA teener to order too. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:55:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, shit. You really did make a code That's fuckin awesome, thanks man3/8 it is then. I'll go pester my fellow WA teener to order too. For your purposes, you might look at the long range starter kits I have, and get an IPSC later. IPSCs are expensive to ship, the package deals are free shipping. Your code (shouldn't) work on the package deals though. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 7:56:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2016 8:04:39 PM EDT
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I got an IDPA silhouette with a hostage swinger and a steel base from Western Targets, and I also got a mess of smaller, thinner plates from a guy on Facebook for a killer deal that I use for handguns and rimfire. It all depends on what your use is as to which plates you buy. Get them wherever they're cheapest.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 8:06:35 PM EDT
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